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My dog seems to love Hills Science Plan Advanced fitness mini, its not cheap but that fine he is only a little dog, but is it a good food? I tried it as he went off James Wellbeloved, I can not feed Raw as I couldnt cope but is there any better dry food???
 
The food may not be cheap but it has cheap ingredients. There are plenty of better foods around and some are half the price.
If you don't like raw how about Naturediet?
 
I've heard Naturediet and Naturalise are quite similar? I feed mine naturalise and she seems to do pretty well on it. I won't say she loves it as, quite frankly she eats pretty much anything (killed a rabbit the other day and that was prize meat as far she was concerned!) so I can't tell with her. I liked the fact though it seems to have a high % of meat in compared to other tinned meats and doesn't appear to have too many pointless ingredients in.
 
Naturalise fish - Fish and Fish Derivatives (min. 30% Fish) , Meat and Animal Derivatives (Fish/Meat Content Total min. 60%) , Rice (min. 4%) , Vegetables , Minerals , Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol): 15mg/kg , Vitamin A and Vitamin D3 by usage of Select Raw Materials .
£1.00 at Asda

Naturediet fish -Fish 65%, Rice 12%, Vegetables 7%, Natural Ground Bone, Seaweed Meal, Vitamin A 2,556 IU, Vitamin D3 213 IU, Sodium Selenite 0.1mg, Ferrous Sulphate Monohydrate 22.7mg, Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate 6.8mg, Manganese Sulphate Monohydrate 5.3mg, Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate 71mg. Technological Additives: Cassia 2,600mg
Between £0.75 & 0.85 a pack

One is far superior and is not the dearer one!
 
I feed mine the wainwrights trays of meat from pets4you, I think they do a dry food too, which isn't as good as the James well beloved, but it is cheaper. Wainwrights trays work out at 62p a tray so per day really :)

Having said that, mine just snaffled an entire packet of choc digestives, that'll teach me to leave the kitchen door open :mad: :rolleyes:
 
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s4sugar said:
Naturalise fish - Fish and Fish Derivatives (min. 30% Fish) , Meat and Animal Derivatives (Fish/Meat Content Total min. 60%) , Rice (min. 4%) , Vegetables , Minerals , Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol): 15mg/kg , Vitamin A and Vitamin D3 by usage of Select Raw Materials .
£1.00 at Asda

Naturediet fish -Fish 65%, Rice 12%, Vegetables 7%, Natural Ground Bone, Seaweed Meal, Vitamin A 2,556 IU, Vitamin D3 213 IU, Sodium Selenite 0.1mg, Ferrous Sulphate Monohydrate 22.7mg, Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate 6.8mg, Manganese Sulphate Monohydrate 5.3mg, Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate 71mg. Technological Additives: Cassia 2,600mg
Between £0.75 & 0.85 a pack

One is far superior and is not the dearer one!
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But not too dissimilar? I have never seen Naturediet for sale anywhere near me hence why I went for the Naturalise. Who does sell Naturediet?
 
Sorry, meant pets at home! I only feed mine one tray a day of the wainwrights stuff, which doesn't seem enough, but it's the amount recommended on the box?
 
ladyt25 said:
But not too dissimilar? I have never seen Naturediet for sale anywhere near me hence why I went for the Naturalise. Who does sell Naturediet?
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Massively different! Naturalise has derivatives (ie floor sweepings of up to 35% as well as meat and animal derivatives, could be genitalia, eyes, teeth, anything, yuk) Plus veg, unnecessary addition/filler.

Nature Diet has 60% actual fish. Proper job, I think.
 
I think all the Hill's products are excellent quality.

Surely it wouldn't be for sale at all the Vets if it wasn't any good!

Cheaper products may have similar ingredients, but not the same science/technology behind it, which means it wouldn't be absorbed as well as the Hill's stuff.
 
npage123 said:
I think all the Hill's products are excellent quality.

Surely it wouldn't be for sale at all the Vets if it wasn't any good!

Cheaper products may have similar ingredients, but not the same science/technology behind it, which means it wouldn't be absorbed as well as the Hill's stuff.
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**passes the can opener to release the worms**
 
Worms, everywhere. :p

The version mentioned by the OP actually isn't all that bad, some of the stuff they do (and mostly the prescription stuff!) is nothing but floor sweepings at £40/10kg or whatever it is.

Back in the day D was prescribed a Purina veterinary diet to try and stop her chronic diarrhoea - it looked, smelt and quite possibly tasted like that kid's golden nugget cereal stuff. It was something like 70% maize and I don't think it actually contained any meat at all. On the rare occasion she'd eat it her diarrhoea increased threefold in volume and splat factor. :rolleyes:
 
We were only laughing about this yesterday when we popped into a garden centre and saw all the Hills Science for sale for all breeds. We just wondered how anyone could be so gullible, but with the Vet also selling it people who dont know better do think the vet wouldnt sell it if it wasnt good. People put their trust in professionals and with an endorsement which is what vets are doing you can see how people fall for it.

Another common misconception is well he is KC registered so he did come from a good breeder.
 
OP, do you feed only the dry food to your dog? (If this is the case and you've been feeding the James Wellbeloved for a long time, then maybe he just got a bit bored with it? I've found with my 2 dogs and 2 cats that they don't stay interested in the same dry food forever.)
 
npage123 said:
I think all the Hill's products are excellent quality.

Surely it wouldn't be for sale at all the Vets if it wasn't any good!

Cheaper products may have similar ingredients, but not the same science/technology behind it, which means it wouldn't be absorbed as well as the Hill's stuff.
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They're awful quality. Google the ingredients, some of which dogs can't even digest.

Vets sell it because they're sponsored to do so and get a commission on it. They appear to have one day of nutrtion talks by, guess who?!

Similar ingredients but not the same science/technology? Oh mon Dieu! What science/technology? Cheap fillers, little meat? Dogs can't absorb Hills half the time because it has useless fillers.

Sorry, CC, I can't help it! :o
 
My puppy had really bad colitis on Hills ( she came with a bag ) I switched her onto the Wainwrights trays ( they are on offer in Pets at Home atm 2 boxes for £15 :) )

I only have to feed half of one a day so works out a bargain.
 
As the OP was asking about dry food, I gave them my opinion about dry food only. They said they couldn't cope with feeding raw. Compared to e.g. some food available in supermarkets, I still think Hill's is nutritionally balanced and a far better choice.

However, this thread has become a RAW/BARF diet VS dry food diet - and this is a debate which will continue forever.

I've always fed (what I perceived to be) the best dry food that I could afford to my pets (despite usually being in financial crisis), in combination with sardines/chicken/beef mince/prize choice standard range/nature's menu etc. once a day. I've always felt that in doing so, I'm giving them the best of both worlds - a balanced (dry food) diet PLUS natural, tasty food too.

But thank you for those who so strongly voiced their opinion against Hill's. I'll definitely be looking into feeding a raw diet now, as there's no doubt that the pets will enjoy eating this more - and hopefully it will work out cheaper too...

OP - perhaps (if you don't like handling raw meat) you could also look into feeding some of the frozen mince/meats?
 
Oops - probably my misinterpretation. I thought some people meant that they solely feed Naturediet, Naturalise, or Wainwrights foil trays (and no dry food).

Don't think the OP's interested in this thread any longer, so that's it from me :0)
 
I solely feed wainwrights wet food trays, I don't feed any biscuits. He had a big bone from the butchers today, and gets a cream cheese or peanut butter kong when I go out and thats it, apart from the odd raw egg with his dinner :)
 
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