A hat could have saved him :(

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It won't take a great deal to work out who this was but I have deleted the names (excepting the inquest officials) from the edited version of an article in a local paper below.

This was a good friend of mine, who was without doubt an experienced, balanced & strong rider. Had he heeded the advice, or even just indulged his friends who urged him to wear a hat he might be with us today.

A NATIONAL riding champion from Newquay, who refused to wear a helmet outside of competitions, died after falling off a horse, an inquest has heard.
****** *********, sustained an "unsurvivable" brain injury following the accident close to Bejowan Farm equestrian centre on June 5 last year.

The father of two had been helping out a friend and stable owner and was riding a gelding called Mr T when he inexplicably slid from his saddle.
Described as "fearless and tough", Mr ******* was National Point-to-Point Champion in 1988 and was widely regarded as one of the greatest horsemen of his era, as both a rider and a trainer.
He had ridden horses all his life. He was old school and would never wear protective clothing or a riding hat.
The owner of the horse he was riding at the time said "We asked him to because it was a good example for my grandchildren (but he didn't).
He only wore hats at competitions because he had to. On the day he died he was not wearing a hat or back protector."

The court heard there was no concrete evidence to suggest he had a medical episode before the accident.
Pathologist Juliane Stolte, who carried out the post-mortem examination, said she believed the brain injury occurred as a result of the fall, although it was possible a haemorrhage may have occurred beforehand.
Assistant coroner Barrie Van Den Berg recorded a verdict of accidental death. The cause of death was said to be a skull fracture and brain haemorrhage.
 
This is so terrible. Sounds harsh I know, but why is he regarded one of the greatest horsemen of his era when he's silly enough not ride without a hat? Surely all great horse people know and respect how powerful and dangerous even the most laid back of horses can be.

It's such a shame that someone with so much talent has died because he wasn't responsible.

We asked him to because it was a good example for my grandchildren (but he didn't)
With all due respect to this owner, they should have insisted or not let him ride without if they were that keen to set a good example. Not for one second saying it is their fault though, he made the choice, unfortunately :( x
 
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I just realised how awfully inconsiderate that sounds, having re-read your post and seeing good friend.

I didn't mean it to sound that way it does, more the point about horses being unpredictable, and I certainly wasn't implying it's his own fault (how it could sound) because even WITH a hat we could all be killed by them. Hope you don't take it the wrong way. x
 
I had a lovely German penfriend Wolfgang and sadly he lost his life after fainting and slipping from his horse in a schooling lesson and sustaining a head injury. He as many Germans at that time never wore a hat at home sadly. So many dressage riders and western riders do not wear hats - it's a huge risk. Accidents happen to the most competent riders.
 
I knew the gentleman concerned, a natural horseman, old school, I cannot comment on what the result of inquest is but I know he had more talent that most of us will ever have.
 
Very sad, especially for the children he has left behind. I am sorry you have lost a friend, my thoughts are with you and his other friends and of course his poor family.

Top climbers wear helmets, top cyclists wear helmets (my friends wear full face when they are downhilling), yet in horse riding, the only sport where you can be thrown off, it's still OK to ride and compete (in certain disciplines) without a hat! Horse riding is surely the most unpredictable sport (climbers test holds, you can test whether snow is likely to avalanche or not. Yes, you could be caught out, but your bike is never going to spook at a bird in a hedge and dump you on the floor) and yet the only one I can think of that uses helmets/hats where it's permitted to compete without one.
 
It's is difficult to change.
I knew a few people who died [or got so badly injured they could not enjoy life in the way they had previously], and the death or injury was preventable and in one case, almost predictable. It is partly attitude.
I know when car seat-belts first came out I thought "I am a good driver, this is for bad drivers". Sometimes one has to compromise, I would not ride without my hat [Ayr beach 1968] but I would never wear a back protector unless competing, so I don't wear one.
I am a slightly "difficult" person [so they tell me], but I try to be safe, if it affects other people adversely, do it for them :)
The thing is "inner person".
The only way I could ride 500kgs of unpredictable horseflesh was to convince myself I was "invincible" . I have to say that the head lads put me on horses that did not test the theory.
 
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Very sad.

In every other sport in the world increased saftey measures are applauded. Even if your not ultra competitive you use safety equipment. But not in the horse world. Oh no. Easy to whine about H&S. It's just plain stupid.

I wear my helmet for other things beside riding. And I wear it for those who love me. Last year I was going to have a quick ride round on my predictable 18yo. All tacked and helmet in house. Walked out to arena and just couldn't do it. Off and back to get it. The ride was fine. But not for me without my helmet.

Terri
 
Unfortunately, wearing a hat does not guarantee you will not have a brain injury, it is a false sense of security to believe this.

My reason for this statement?.......My mother died after a fall from a horse, she was a very experienced horsewoman ,in her 60s, had competed for many years.....she had a catastrophic brain haemorrhage .......

......why wasn't she wearing a hat, I hear you all say.........SHE WAS......a brand new PAS 015 skull cap.......
 
Unfortunately, wearing a hat does not guarantee you will not have a brain injury, it is a false sense of security to believe this.

My reason for this statement?.......My mother died after a fall from a horse, she was a very experienced horsewoman ,in her 60s, had competed for many years.....she had a catastrophic brain haemorrhage .......

......why wasn't she wearing a hat, I hear you all say.........SHE WAS......a brand new PAS 015 skull cap.......

I don't think anyone is silly enough to believe that a hat will 100% provide protection from injury/death.

It does however reduce the chances of that happening.

Sorry to hear about your mum. How sad.
 
Hats reduce direct impacts such as the impact of your head hitting the ground or a hoof hitting your head. What they don't prevent/ reduce is sheering injuries, those caused by your brain moving in your skull and hitting your skull from the inside or the vessels within your head being ripped... Different I know but Michael Schumaker was wearing a hat when he was skiing and now is in what seems to be a Permanent vegative state.

Don't get me wrong I always always wear a hat and believe I would be dead other than for my hats (I have fractured my skull twice) but not all head injuries are reduced by these safety items..
 
So sad :(

It brings home how dangerous our sport is.

I hear about a lot of injuries and fatalities happening when handling horses from the ground, so it's not only riding that can be an issue. (like the father who was killed when he heard his daughter's pony thrashing about in the trailer and went in to try and calm it down) There's no way I would wear a hat for general handling, but it is something to think about, and I have had a couple of near misses.
 
I knew the gentleman concerned, a natural horseman, old school, I cannot comment on what the result of inquest is but I know he had more talent that most of us will ever have.

Exactly.

I didn't post for people to sit in judgement of the sad circumstances though. On another thread people are claiming that the best defence against injury is to have a strong enough position to make a fall unlikely. Proudwilliams comment above says it all. This man was a truly amazing rider, & if it could happen to him it could happen to anyone.

Many thanks to all those who have posted in sympathy. We didn't see a great deal of one another, but when we did bump in to one another it was always nice to catch up & exchange news of mutual friends etc, sometimes just bounce ideas off each other & always without fail find something to laugh over together,
 
So sorry OP, to lose a good friend in such a tragic way is awful. Can only hope that reading about this may prevent it happening to someone else.

If its not crass to say though, it is lovely to see a post from Terri :)
 
Hat or no hat? We can argue to cows come home. I simply want to give my sympathy to his family. But most of all a hug to his children. I hope in time you will be so proud of youre daddy. X
 
Thats terribly sad :(

There are so many people that dont wear hats but I agree it might not be guaranteed to save your life

Personally I would never not wear 1 as I mainly ride babies but I would never judge someone for not

Ive xc schooled my old horse without a body protector which everyone will say is stupid but I knew her inside out & she never once stopped xc with me & I trusted her 100% I did a lot of other "stupid" things as well but never rode without a hat but its personal choice !

Very sorry for your loss of a dear friend & a true horseman
 
Unfortunately, wearing a hat does not guarantee you will not have a brain injury, it is a false sense of security to believe this.

My reason for this statement?.......My mother died after a fall from a horse, she was a very experienced horsewoman ,in her 60s, had competed for many years.....she had a catastrophic brain haemorrhage .......

......why wasn't she wearing a hat, I hear you all say.........SHE WAS......a brand new PAS 015 skull cap.......

What happened to your mum is tragic, and im so sorry to hear this, but what happened with her is more of an exception not the rule.
A hat on your head will dramatically increase your chances of a good outcome if you have a fall that impacts your head, yes with concussive and whiplash injuries its less likely to make a difference, but both of these almost always have an impact accompanying them .
 
Op, so very sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. Thoughts with his family and friends, very sad.

Just goes to show that it doesn't matter how experienced you are, you can come off a horse at any time. Wearing a hat may not guarantee you escape injury or even death, but it sure does increase the probability of survival.
 
Hats reduce direct impacts such as the impact of your head hitting the ground or a hoof hitting your head. What they don't prevent/ reduce is sheering injuries, those caused by your brain moving in your skull and hitting your skull from the inside or the vessels within your head being ripped... Different I know but Michael Schumaker was wearing a hat when he was skiing and now is in what seems to be a Permanent vegative state.
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news today is that his doctors are gradually bringing him around and he is responding to their instructions, early days, but that sounds positive so far
 
news today is that his doctors are gradually bringing him around and he is responding to their instructions, early days, but that sounds positive so far

Really? That isn't what is being reported over here. We're being told that they are only starting the slow process to bringing him out of his coma. That could take days if that's the case.

OP, sorry to hear about your friend. I read about his death this morning and it said that he had been complaining of pain earlier in the day prior to him slipping off the horse. He was a great horseman and this is tragic. My thoughts go out to his family and friends.
 
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