A how much? Not an advert..

i think you need to have a chat with them. they obvs like him. say you would be prepeared to sell and get them to make an offer. if you are nearby then you can negotiate. if you are poles apart then you can politely decline give them a week to think about it and renew a better offer, then if still poles apart you can terminate the loan as agreed on the contract, take horse back, get him out and about and then float him on the market. do bear in mind the market is cr@*. you may have him for several months (think livery shoes worming teeth entries travel costs and commitment) really its up to you and what they offer, and your own circumstances on whether you have the time to take him back.
 
They love him to bits, the girl was a very nervous rider but now has masses of confidence and he looks after her. Her OH is a very experienced rider and he rides him sometimes but feels he is a bit too heavy for him so mainly he is ridden by her. In the school he is a schoolmaster, he has been classically trained and is the most lovely responsive horse. I suppose he would have been working at medium level at home and we were competing unaffiliated elementary always gaining over 65% (when he was an 8 yr old) he would often win every time out at novice level at one time getting 83% at the RC championships.
I affiliated him early last year and did 1 competition at novice level getting 64% in both classes and qualifying for the pet plans. Just after this I contracted Guillian-Barre Syndrome which left me paralysed and in hospital for 3 weeks. This is why he only has 4 points. If I was still able to ride I have no doubt he would have lots more than that! But there you go, that's life!
They took him on loan and quickly fell in love with him. In the meantime I got pregnant and so now am not in a position to have a horse (I'm still having problems walking) It would be impossible for me to have a horse at the moment.
I have not been able to work since early last year, and we have been struggling financially without my wages, so getting as much as I can for him is a bit of a priority.
 
Seahorse said:
They love him to bits, the girl was a very nervous rider but now has masses of confidence and he looks after her. Her OH is a very experienced rider and he rides him sometimes but feels he is a bit too heavy for him so mainly he is ridden by her. In the school he is a schoolmaster, he has been classically trained and is the most lovely responsive horse. I suppose he would have been working at medium level at home and we were competing unaffiliated elementary always gaining over 65% (when he was an 8 yr old) he would often win every time out at novice level at one time getting 83% at the RC championships.
I affiliated him early last year and did 1 competition at novice level getting 64% in both classes and qualifying for the pet plans. Just after this I contracted Guillian-Barre Syndrome which left me paralysed and in hospital for 3 weeks. This is why he only has 4 points. If I was still able to ride I have no doubt he would have lots more than that! But there you go, that's life!
They took him on loan and quickly fell in love with him. In the meantime I got pregnant and so now am not in a position to have a horse (I'm still having problems walking) It would be impossible for me to have a horse at the moment.
I have not been able to work since early last year, and we have been struggling financially without my wages, so getting as much as I can for him is a bit of a priority.
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Now from reading that, I get a totally different picture. He sounds as though he has done quite a lot. I also have a better understanding as to why you need as much as poss for him. I thought you sounded a bit greedy before, and I'm sorry.x
 
I also think asking them to make you an offer is a very good idea, if it's miles out from your bottom line, try and work somewhere towards the middle. your financial situation is obviously stretched at the moment but as I said before, they might well think you're taking the P... for asking that amount of money for a horse which is basically a happy hacker ( at the moment ), and it sounds as though you can't afford to lose them as loaners either, so the safest way forward would seem to be to ask less and sell him quickly. You'll have money on the hip and no on-going worries about the whole situation.
Good luck!
 
Asking them to make an offer is a good idea.

However I don't think what they paid for a previous horse should have any bearing whatsoever on what they pay for yours.

Being ripped off on one doesn't mean that becomes the benchmark that you should measure the value of yours against.
 
Seahorse said:
They love him to bits, the girl was a very nervous rider but now has masses of confidence and he looks after her. Her OH is a very experienced rider and he rides him sometimes but feels he is a bit too heavy for him so mainly he is ridden by her. In the school he is a schoolmaster, he has been classically trained and is the most lovely responsive horse. I suppose he would have been working at medium level at home and we were competing unaffiliated elementary always gaining over 65% (when he was an 8 yr old) he would often win every time out at novice level at one time getting 83% at the RC championships.
I affiliated him early last year and did 1 competition at novice level getting 64% in both classes and qualifying for the pet plans. Just after this I contracted Guillian-Barre Syndrome which left me paralysed and in hospital for 3 weeks. This is why he only has 4 points. If I was still able to ride I have no doubt he would have lots more than that! But there you go, that's life!
They took him on loan and quickly fell in love with him. In the meantime I got pregnant and so now am not in a position to have a horse (I'm still having problems walking) It would be impossible for me to have a horse at the moment.
I have not been able to work since early last year, and we have been struggling financially without my wages, so getting as much as I can for him is a bit of a priority.
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I would pay that for him, if he is as safe as you say, with that much potential and I think I have seen previous posts of yours where you have mentioned hunting and show jumping then yes. I paid quite a bit more for one of my lads because he is safe, and has a lot of potential, mine would have been out competing this year and gaining points making him actually worth what I paid for him, but due to unforeseen circumstances he had this summer off from competing.

I would ask for the 7 and think realistically what you would be happy to drop to if they couldn't afford that. Also do you think he would pass a 5 stage vetting as they will need a pass to insure him.
 
I recently paid £6k for a 13 year old, and she has been worth every penny and more. No, she's not a competition horse, she hasn't got a record of wins, but I tried her, found her to be a confidence giving saint, and that's what I wanted. She was worth that to me.

If they've had problems with previous horses, and have had a year to trust that he's a saint, then market prices are irrelevant. You can't a price on the feeling of being able to trust a horse.
 
lochpearl said:
I would pay that for him, if he is as safe as you say, with that much potential and I think I have seen previous posts of yours where you have mentioned hunting and show jumping then yes. I paid quite a bit more for one of my lads because he is safe, and has a lot of potential, mine would have been out competing this year and gaining points making him actually worth what I paid for him, but due to unforeseen circumstances he had this summer off from competing.

I would ask for the 7 and think realistically what you would be happy to drop to if they couldn't afford that. Also do you think he would pass a 5 stage vetting as they will need a pass to insure him.
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Thank you :)
 
JenJ said:
I recently paid £6k for a 13 year old, and she has been worth every penny and more. No, she's not a competition horse, she hasn't got a record of wins, but I tried her, found her to be a confidence giving saint, and that's what I wanted. She was worth that to me.

If they've had problems with previous horses, and have had a year to trust that he's a saint, then market prices are irrelevant. You can't a price on the feeling of being able to trust a horse.
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Thank you, you are absolutely right xx
 
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