A&I supplies pony nuts - beware!

[gwniver]

My horse get his morning , evening feed and a feed ball during the day of Pegasus horse and pony nuts . But about 3 weeks ago I went into A&I supplies , who weren't my usual horsey store , and asked for Pegasus nuts . They said they didn't supply Pegasus nut , but they make their own brand . I thought " fair enough " , and carried on . My horse is neither a good doer or a poor doer and has ( luckily for me ) a perfect weight . But within a week of being on the A&I supplies horse nuts , he went from a shiny horse who had a nice layer of fat but I could feel all his ribs easily and he had no crest/fat pad. To a fat horse where I could only , easily , feel his last 2 ribs !

Luckily now he is of the A&I pony nuts and back on the Pegasus one he is dropping weight and is now looking his old self again .

Just thought I would warn you all , A&I say they are basically the same - but they are not !!! I have certainly learnt my lesson and will be poring over the nutrition table before I feed ( but you know the A&I bag doesn't even have that ! )

Cheers
Gwn

 

[Exploding Chestnuts]

Please be very careful when you post things like this, HHO are kind enough to put this forum on so we can discuss lots of things, but I 'd imagine this could be libelous! We can read between the lines, we don't need them rammed down our throat.

 

[Honey08]

You should always check. Most same type feeds from different companies are different. Even simple things like balancers.

 

[OvergrownShetland]

I don't think it's anything to do with A&I's nuts. As a horse owner you should have checked the bag or asked to see a nutritional breakdown in the store before recalculating a ration suitable to your horses' nutritional requirements.

 

[Equi]

Some horses do better on other foods. End of the day you can't contribute the entire weight gain to that one brand of food, maybe he had more grass than normal, maybe someone gave him too much food. You can't blame a feed company for making your horse fat, this is ridiculous.

 

[Holly Hocks]

To be fair on the OP, she was told that they were basically the same as the Pegasus ones so she fed them in good faith. OP I've been told in the past when I've been for feed that things are "almost the same as" the feed I have been wanting, but I never buy it - you need to check the bag for nutritional content and ingredients. However you could always recommend the new feed to people wanting to put weight on their horses.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

Please be very careful when you post things like this, HHO are kind enough to put this forum on so we can discuss lots of things, but I 'd imagine this could be libelous! We can read between the lines, we don't need them rammed down our throat.

Ohhhh.......... am not sure OP is being committing a "libelous" crime as such; only relating her experience with a specific product??? Which is something I know a lot of people do on here, myself included amongst the "guilty".

But agree that care has to be taken.

What does "A&I" stand for, in any case? Sorry, being numpty. I live in Devon but I've never heard of this brand; but perhaps they don't exist in my neck of the woods.

 

[Baileyhoss]

It's a shop in Elgin. Not a specialist feed store and not even a specialist horsy store. It's a general agricultural store with a decent horsy section. Their nuts are probably a comparable product to some other brands but without a brief breakdown of the basic nutrition of both infront of you or the sales person you can't expect them to guide you on whether or how much you should feed compared to your usual stuff. One bag of cubes is much the same as another to most shops I guess. Don't forget the weather we have had has been crazy for grass growing, warm and very humid.

 

[Baileyhoss]

I'm trying to delete the above as I noticed you are in Devon so probs talking about a different supplier entirely. But I can't seem to find delete or edit! Please ignore me!

 

[LadyRascasse]

If it's the shops own brand of nuts it will be made by a horse feed company for them, chances are that there are made by spillers (who make pegasus feeds) So could be quite right in saying they are basically the same. Different batches of the same product can have slightly different nutritional value to it depending on the time of year ect.

 

[thatsmygirl]

In my mind pony nuts are all about the same ( basic ones anyway) and its a bit unfair naming the shop. My local shops basic range is made by Dobson and horrel but aren't allowed to advertise it

 

[gwniver]

I am not saying they are a bad brand , I am just saying that they seemed to contain more calories than the Pegasus pony nut as my horse did put on weight and his weight is now back to normal since I have stopped feeding their feed . Maybe the person I talked to didn't know what they were talking about - But I would definitely recommend it to anyone who's horse needs to gain weight .
Also I am talking about the shop in elgin - I moved up here awhile ago and I have completely forgotten to change my location !

 

[Smogul]

But within a week of being on the A&I supplies horse nuts , he went from a shiny horse who had a nice layer of fat but I could feel all his ribs easily and he had no crest/fat pad. To a fat horse where I could only , easily , feel his last 2 ribs !

Unless you had the vet out to examine the horse, you can't possibly put it down to feed. OH's horse went like that - no change in diet or lifestyle. Turned out to be a very nasty virus.

 

[SpringArising]

Why didn't you just stop feeding them as soon as you noticed a difference? Bit of an odd thread tbh.

 

[JillA]

The defence against libel is that it is the truth and if you stick to the facts (as OP has pretty much) you have nothing to fear, and neither does the forum host. We shouldn't be scared to relate accounts of companies who have let us down.

 

[Exploding Chestnuts]

The defence against libel is that it is the truth and if you stick to the facts (as OP has pretty much) you have nothing to fear, and neither does the forum host. We shouldn't be scared to relate accounts of companies who have let us down.

Fair enough, is it the shop which has let us down, to be honest I thought this was a brand of nuts. Presumably it is own brand sold only at this shop?

 

[Exploding Chestnuts]

In my mind pony nuts are all about the same ( basic ones anyway) and its a bit unfair naming the shop. My local shops basic range is made by Dobson and horrel but aren't allowed to advertise it

I presume there are many companies who have their own premises and manufacture feeds which are not sold under their own brand label, but each batch of feed is likely to have its own formula/price, so I don t assume anyone is getting a particular D&H brand in a plain paper bag. We know companies spend oodles on branding, so they really would be stupid to make the same formulation for other companies.
This does not apply to commodities like milk, where the same product, is processed in the same factory and sold in different cartons.
At one time Kellgs went out of their way to tell us that they don't manufacture for other companies, so if you want Kellogs Corn flakes you had to buy them in a Kellogs packet.

 

[Tern]

In my mind pony nuts are all about the same ( basic ones anyway) and its a bit unfair naming the shop. My local shops basic range is made by Dobson and horrel but aren't allowed to advertise it

Same, mine are made by Bailey's.

 

[Cahill]

could the weight change be down to grass growth this time of year?dry spell,showers= grass growth.