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My 6 year old cob has gone lame again. I have owned him since he was 4 and he's never been right. I feel I've taken things slow with him but during the first 6 months I kept hitting a block in his flatwork training. I'd get him starting to go nicely in a shape in walk and trot and then the next session he'd start to regress until I'd give him some time off, restart again with long lining, get schooling again and hit the same sort of issues again. He never trotted up lame, just seemed to be finding schooling difficult (not wanting to bend, not wanting to stay along the school fence etc).

In late Jan '20 he got notable worse so I got the physio in. She noted he had a wide gate behind and thought he might have slipped in the field and gave him some treatment and a follow-on exercise plan. I worked the plan and eventually got riding him again. I restarted lessons in May, only to have him go lame with a swollen stifle. I got the vet. The horse did box rest, when that failed, went to the vet practice for a lameness workup. They couldn't find the source of the problem using nerve blocks, so he went to the vet hospital for a week. They did more nerve blocks plus x-rays, scintigraphy bone scans, blood tests for PSSM 1, ultrasound of the lumbrosacral joint and a rectal exam and were still unable to diagnose the problem. My horse was sent home with a probable high up soft tissue injury and field rest.

After 6 months of fields rest I started him on the slowest, most careful recovery plan. Very gradually building up in walk. It was months before we trotted and months more before I took him in the school. He still wasn't right. This time it was sore front feet. He ended back at the vets for x-rays and remedial shoeing. He's on to his second set of shoes and I really felt like we'd turned a corner. I hacked him out the other week and he was like the horse I rode when I first bought him. I even dared to ask more of him in the school. My last schooling session with him was 20/25 mins (in the rain) mainly in walk, asking him to bend and stretch over his back stretching his neck down and forward into the bridle, building on a similar session with my coach earlier in the week. The next day the physio came and he trotted up lame with the wide gate in his hind right returning. Basically, it looks like the problem he had last year (and possibly since I bought him) has come back again.

As for the insurance, the time on the original claim has now run out and the list of exclusions they wanted to apply made him uninsurable, so he is currently without insurance cover.

I'll be calling the vet on Monday to come out to him again, but I am really loosing all hope of a resolution. Is he really a lost cause? I feel like I'm going to have to make some expensive financial decisions about further investigation, putting my poor horse through even more stress and I don't want to do this if there is no hope of achieving my ambitions for us. A healthy, pain free horse who can do hacks, fun rides and low level dressage.
 

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I do feel that, with some horses, they would be happier in the home that they can cope with rather than being continually produced for something they struggle with.

You have done the time off, proper vet work-up, more rest etc. If he is a nice low level hack, I would be looking to re-home him, with full disclosure and a huge adoption interview, to a home looking for just that.

Not that he *might* not come right. I just feel that some horses are a better fit elsewhere.
 

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I feel your pain. My 5 year old is like this. Stop start and one vet investigation after another with no answers. I have spent so much money on vets and saddles, physios and sorting out his feet. The most he can happily manage at the mo is a short hack round our fields on a long rein in a hideous Torsion treeless saddle. I don't know what the answer is. The only thing I can add is my sympathy and the thought that I feel much happier now I'm not aiming to "get anywhere" with him. I keep mine at home so don't have to deal with anyone else's comments - thankfully.
 

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Some horses are just happy hackers, they are just unable to be anything else. I would just hack him for the foreseeable if he’s sound doing that and see how he holds up. You may be asking for something he cannot do and it’s damaging him keeping at it.

If that’s not it then I’d would have a frank chat with your vet personally
 

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Possibly a bit of a red herring but the right hind issue made me wonder if it could be hind gut ulcers?

After a chance post on here I looked in to them for my boy who ticked a couple of boxes but when he had a bout of colic just before treating them he stood with his right hind wide due to the stomach pain so I wonder if the wide gait could be the same sort of thing.
 

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I do feel that, with some horses, they would be happier in the home that they can cope with rather than being continually produced for something they struggle with.

You have done the time off, proper vet work-up, more rest etc. If he is a nice low level hack, I would be looking to re-home him, with full disclosure and a huge adoption interview, to a home looking for just that.

Not that he *might* not come right. I just feel that some horses are a better fit elsewhere.

Thank you, that’s an interesting thought.
 

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Like the others I'd wonder if he's just not suited for the job you're asking him to do. As a slight hope, a 6yo cob is still growing and in a couple of years he may be a different horse - but that's a long wait for a maybe.
 

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Some horses are just happy hackers, they are just unable to be anything else. I would just hack him for the foreseeable if he’s sound doing that and see how he holds up. You may be asking for something he cannot do and it’s damaging him keeping at it.

If that’s not it then I’d would have a frank chat with your vet personally
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Like the others I'd wonder if he's just not suited for the job you're asking him to do. As a slight hope, a 6yo cob is still growing and in a couple of years he may be a different horse - but that's a long wait for a maybe.
Thanks for the ray of hope. He’s a chunky lad so may well be still growing.
Possibly a bit of a red herring but the right hind issue made me wonder if it could be hind gut ulcers?

After a chance post on here I looked in to them for my boy who ticked a couple of boxes but when he had a bout of colic just before treating them he stood with his right hind wide due to the stomach pain so I wonder if the wide gait could be the same sort of thing.
I’d not thought of that, I’ll see what the vet says.
 

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I do feel that, with some horses, they would be happier in the home that they can cope with rather than being continually produced for something they struggle with.

You have done the time off, proper vet work-up, more rest etc. If he is a nice low level hack, I would be looking to re-home him, with full disclosure and a huge adoption interview, to a home looking for just that.

Not that he *might* not come right. I just feel that some horses are a better fit elsewhere.
My previous reply got cut off ?.
You have certainly given me something to think about if it comes to it. As long as I can be sure that he is okay with the hacking.
 

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I feel your pain. My 5 year old is like this. Stop start and one vet investigation after another with no answers. I have spent so much money on vets and saddles, physios and sorting out his feet. The most he can happily manage at the mo is a short hack round our fields on a long rein in a hideous Torsion treeless saddle. I don't know what the answer is. The only thing I can add is my sympathy and the thought that I feel much happier now I'm not aiming to "get anywhere" with him. I keep mine at home so don't have to deal with anyone else's comments - thankfully.
Thanks for the sympathy. I keep him on a busy yard with leisure horses. No pressure from the other owners to do anything with him, but it is hard to see other riders progressing with their young horses, doing the things that I was looking forward to doing with mine. I never imagined that a horse wouldn’t be capable of intro / prelim unaffiliated dressage unless he was really broken, perhaps my boy is ☹️
 

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Some horses are just happy hackers, they are just unable to be anything else. I would just hack him for the foreseeable if he’s sound doing that and see how he holds up. You may be asking for something he cannot do and it’s damaging him keeping at it.

If that’s not it then I’d would have a frank chat with your vet personally

Agree, it may be that he’s only physically capable of being a happy hacker. I’d like to be sure he’d be okay with only hacking, so definitely need a frank chat with my vet.
 
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