A mini Grace breakthrough...

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I took my yearling to a Richard Maxwell learning day (he was a complete star), and while watching a few of the other horses I had a bit of a breakthrough in my own head.

One lady was riding her 4 year old who has been off work and she said she was having some issues with the mare holding on the right rein. Max got on her and said you should not be thinking about getting them off the rein they are holding, but get them onto the one they are not! Now, although I know this in principle, for some reason it lit up a light bulb in my head.

I have been having some real contact issues with Grace in the past week. When my trainer rode her last week she was absolutely brilliant, and I got on afterwards and she felt perfect. However, I changed her bit into a regular snaffle because she was backing off the Myler and backing off the Sprenger This week she has been chucking her head in the air and spinning which has been 'making' me get hold of the left rein (the one she holds on) and then we have been having some really stressful reactions to the point that on Sunday night I felt completely miserable because she was being so unhappy in her work which is not like her.

Last night I got on her with everything Max was saying fresh in my mind. I started off just walking her and would not give her any contact in the left rein initially. I then added some gentle leg yield and shoulder in to ensure she was truly in my outside hand. I did this again in the trot, ensuring my hands were up and she was carrying herself and again used some lateral work to ensure I had control of the shoulder through the outside hand. The problems started when we went into canter, she started trying to snatch at the left rein, almost in an attempt to make me increase the contact, but whereas normally I have been working her 'off' it, I just dropped it completely which provoked a HUGE reaction. She threw her head in the air and spun, trying everything she could to make me get that left rein, but I stuck to my guns and no matter what she did (fly buck, spin, curl around my outside leg in the wrong bend) I just kept riding her forwards and into that outside hand. All of a sudden I felt her whole body relax, from her nose all the way to her tail, and she came up in the shoulder, extremely light and responsive in the contact and produced some of the best work she has given me since coming back into work!!!

The carriage and power equalled that before she went lame, and I now feel very positive about her rather than wondering whether something was still not quite right. I think the problem has been that I am extremely aware of her left side through it being the injured side. Due to that, I have been almost propping her up in the hope it will help, but last night I rode her like I meant it, as I used to ride her before November 2007 and she just felt completely awsome. I now remember why she is such a special mare and why one of my trainers who knew her before November has so much faith in her!
 
Congratulations! Funnily enough my WB also always wants me to prop him up on the left rein (he has had PSD twice in the left fore) and my instructor has been trying to help me 'get him off' that rein. But the other night he was being particlarly stubborn to the point my left arm ached til it hurt and i couldn't seem to do anything about it - he just kept chomping down on the bit and wriggling side to side and racing forward in the trot trying to provoke a reaction out of me. So i reacted. I just totally dropped the rein and rode him so hard into my outside rein that it looked probably looked awful to anyone watching! I decided that i have had enough of me looking after that leg - he IS stronger on it now and can damn well start using it properly! After about 10 mins of this (and my left arm coming back to life!) he just suddenly lifted, softened and floated in the trot. I could flex him anyway I liked which never normally happens and you should've seen the grin on my face!

So that was quite a coincidence for me reading your post -almost deja vu! I have made a big decision now to stop nannying my horse and looking for a lame stride - if the injury happens for a 3rd time then i will deal with that when it does. For now that horse needs to earn his keep and pay me back for all this love i have been giving him!
 
That sounds really positive, i love lightbulb moments!!!

SOunds like a similar issue i had with T a while ago. In right canter she kept snatching at the right rein, my trainer was convinced it was because she wanted more contact with me to hold her up and not work herelf so told me to drop it completely. Pretty much the same reaction as you got and had to sit tight for some time but it worked!!!

Glad you feel like things are improving
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Thats brilliant - glad you are back together again - onwards and upwards!

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Thanks happihorse, I don't doubt we will have the same reaction tonight when I ride her, but hopefully it will be slightly reduced as I did lots of transitions last night and repetition.
 
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Congratulations! Funnily enough my WB also always wants me to prop him up on the left rein (he has had PSD twice in the left fore) and my instructor has been trying to help me 'get him off' that rein. But the other night he was being particlarly stubborn to the point my left arm ached til it hurt and i couldn't seem to do anything about it - he just kept chomping down on the bit and wriggling side to side and racing forward in the trot trying to provoke a reaction out of me. So i reacted. I just totally dropped the rein and rode him so hard into my outside rein that it looked probably looked awful to anyone watching! I decided that i have had enough of me looking after that leg - he IS stronger on it now and can damn well start using it properly! After about 10 mins of this (and my left arm coming back to life!) he just suddenly lifted, softened and floated in the trot. I could flex him anyway I liked which never normally happens and you should've seen the grin on my face!

So that was quite a coincidence for me reading your post -almost deja vu! I have made a big decision now to stop nannying my horse and looking for a lame stride - if the injury happens for a 3rd time then i will deal with that when it does. For now that horse needs to earn his keep and pay me back for all this love i have been giving him!

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It is good to know that it has worked for others... And perhaps we prop them up more because we know there was something there at some time
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I also have to admit, it probably did not look that nice when we were having our reaction to me not picking up the contact, and to some extent I did start to wonder whether this would work, but then she just relaxed so suddenly that it sort of caught me off gaurd. I kept testing it by doing more transitions, and we did have the same reaction but less and less severe every time
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She looked completely worn out when I had finished with her. She had not sweated much, but I think her brain had really been forced to work some things out and she was mentally exhausted.
 
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That sounds really positive, i love lightbulb moments!!!

SOunds like a similar issue i had with T a while ago. In right canter she kept snatching at the right rein, my trainer was convinced it was because she wanted more contact with me to hold her up and not work herelf so told me to drop it completely. Pretty much the same reaction as you got and had to sit tight for some time but it worked!!!

Glad you feel like things are improving
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The reaction was pretty severe and required some serious staying power, but the results were worth it
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If you don't mind me asking, was the reaction as strong the next time you rode? Just wondering whether to buy myself some body armour
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I have this problem with my right rein, and really struggle to get a contact in my left rein. I understand how to drop the right rein, but could some explain how to ride them into the other rein (sorry if this is a silly question!)
 
It was as strong but didn't last quite as long!! T is very opinionated and it did took a good few sessions before i was just able to ride firmly into outside contact, still with no contact inside at all. Everytime she did it it lasted less time and after the first couple of sessions it got much less violent everytime.
I found it so hard to stick to but it really works!!
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Good luck!!!
 
''I have this problem with my right rein, and really struggle to get a contact in my left rein. I understand how to drop the right rein, but could some explain how to ride them into the other rein (sorry if this is a silly question!)''

You need to pick up a left contact, whatever it means you need to do. Even if you get terrible bend to the outside and they kick up a fight. Use your inside leg to push them towards the outside hand. You need to keep this up, firmly, until they allow you to maintain the contact. So concentrate on inside leg to outside hand, as if you are pushing their shoulder in this direction.

Does that make sense?
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I have this problem with my right rein, and really struggle to get a contact in my left rein. I understand how to drop the right rein, but could some explain how to ride them into the other rein (sorry if this is a silly question!)

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Not silly at all... I just held the contact very consistent on the right rein (Grace hangs on the left), and rode her forwards into it with the leg. Then when she finally went into the contact I softened my contact. I had my hand up and forwards though so that when she did come soft and relaxed, it was in a position she was holding herself.
 
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It was as strong but didn't last quite as long!! T is very opinionated and it did took a good few sessions before i was just able to ride firmly into outside contact, still with no contact inside at all. Everytime she did it it lasted less time and after the first couple of sessions it got much less violent everytime.
I found it so hard to stick to but it really works!!
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Good luck!!!

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Thank you... I was going to give her the day off today but as I am competing my other mare tomorrow I may not get time in the morning and I would like to have another go at this way of riding while last night is fresh in her mind so to speak.

She is not usually an argumentative lady, and before she went lame, she would do anything and everything to please you. This is quite out of character, however, perhaps I have always allowed her a little liberty with this left contact and now I have changed it she is reacting???
 
Mmmmm well you may well not get the same reaction then but you never know with mares. I think i had been allowing the contact issue to rumble on for a while, ie i didn't make sure it was 100% correct from the beginning because other things were going so well. Then when it esculated and i said enoughs enough she got very mad.
I generally create these problems for myself i'm sure but i guess as long as i correct them myself its fine!!!

I find with T, who can be argumentative, that reinforcing things again quickly is really helpful.
 
Brilliant!

I've had the same thing with G and last time I had a lesson with KR she pointed out I was propping him up too and made me bunch the remainder of my reins in my left to pretty much immobilise my left hand - meaning G couldn't get his desired reaction (me increasing the contact to hold him up). I was quite amazed by the dramatics he employed to try and get me to grab it again but it all came together eventually and he was much straighter, much lighter and much softer.
 
Governor, apologies for coming across a bit slow (for some reasons our radiators at work are on full blast and I am incredibly sleepy) but what do you mean 'bunch the remainder of my reins into my left to pretty much immobilise my left hand'???
 
Actually this is quite hard to explain...Basically the rest of the rein (from your hand the buckle) that usually would hang down the shoulder. If you bunch it up in one of your hands it makes it suprisingly hard to use that hand/rein.
 
Great News Becki!!!- I'm really really pleased for you... bit pissed off that you'll prob be against me at some point now, but hey ho...
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Hi, I have only skim read some of these posts - but I just wanted to add that although it is useful to let go of one rein for a time (if the horse is leaning on it or you find yourself propping the horse up) it should be done briefly, because it is really important that the horse learns to go into BOTH reins at the same time equally, not either or.
This will work in the short term, but it really is a quick fix. As soon as the horse goes into the light rein you need to take contact back with the other rein (I'm talking immediately) - because although you have achieved your goal, technically the goal (to take more contact in right rein) is not establishing a correct way of going - correctness is to take the contact equally in both.
I am not suggesting that anybody doesn't know this or what anyone does is incorrect, I just wanted to add this incase someone reading these posts is having this issue because it really really is important - as you can very easily get stuck in a rut with this!
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Hi SAMgirl... I don't think you have anything to worry about regarding us being against you
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We are such a long way from where we were last year it is unbelievable and I think it may take quite a bit of time to get back to that point
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Until then, I guess I am just going to have to accept the 61%s and as others suggested in a previous post of mine, use every competition as nothing more than training. I am a bit gutted because I was supposed to be taking her to Warren Farm but it has been cancelled again
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With regards to what you wrote about having contact in both reins, I couldn't agree more and it was a good idea to post that in case others are reading this for advice. Within second of Grace softening and stopping her circus horse impression, I took the contact back up evenly in both reins. However, to get her 'off' the left one I had to get her working into the right one, but once I had this feeling it was back to conventional riding.
 
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