A photo that wil make you think twice about Hi-Vis

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Even though Chico is mostly white and thus stands out anyway I always wear some form of hi-viz, usually my ex-police jacket or tabard. I also have a breastplate hi-viz thing that I pop on Chico sometimes, doent harm to make my white horse even brighter!!
 

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Very effective photo. In fact, I think that sunny/shadowy days are equally as dangerous as dull and wet ones.

Ditto this

Me & my sharer was out hacking last summer it was a really warm sunny day (yes a sunny summers day :eek:) & we was coming along this lane when this guy come flying along towards us so I waved him down & he stopped wound down his window & said I didn't see you as the sun was to bright so I said well if thats the case you should of been driving slow anyway if thats the case.

We wear hi viz all year round as doesn't take 2 mins to put on & least no one can say well you wasn't wearing hi viz. I feel odd without it on :p
 

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I leave all my hi-viz in my tack room and have told my sharer she must wear something if she hacks out so just to help herself.

I also knew someone who rode in dark clothes, on a dark horse with no hi-viz at all despite the fact I actually gave them a set of brand new hi-viz leg wraps and an exercise sheet. Dont think they have ever been out of the packet, which is sad as I gave them the stuff to keep them safe. :(
 

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I simply don't get why people say it doesn't look good!!

Would you rather look like this...


Or like this?
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Sunny cloudy rain or shine i hi viz. stopped 2 girls from my yard one sunny day as when i came up to them they were under a bridge and going from bright to dim i only jusr saw them. dark horses dark clothing. . i dont understand why people dont use hi viz.
 

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It sometimes seems that nervous 'happy' hackers are festooned in Hi Viz covering every inch of horse and rider, with the brightness of a pantomime dame, while at the other extreme, the more vain amongst competiton riders and hunters seem more likely to wear none, seemingly under the impression that they look so awesome that motorists will be drawn to stop and stare in admiration.

I like the middle ground. Sufficient hi viz to be seen, without scaring local wildlife.

This attitude really annoys me. It is not a sign of a nervous rider to want to ensure that you and your horse can be seen by drivers. Neither is it a sign of a competant rider to ride without hi-viz, just a sign of an arrogant one.
I just wish that dog-walkers and joggers round here would wear something to make themselves visible, particularly after dark in winter.
 

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A very scary yet effective photo, took me a while to spot them. No matter what the weather I always wear hi viz, its just part of my routine to put it on now, as another poster said I'd feel odd not wearing it!
 

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Oh wow, this is the photo from me and my partners car!
Its from our in car camera (to reduce costs of insurance and incase of accidents etc etc) This girl often rides out, on a main road, in rush hour, on a spooky bay, with no hi vis. We regularly see her, and so do many others in the area, with black clothes and no reflectives! So we politely and quietly said, "we literally couldn't see you!" to find she went on facebook, on a huge group with 6,000 members and posted that we insulted her.. were extremely rude and we shouldn't be shouting at her to wear hi vis! Well obviously her claims were untrue.. so we uploaded this photo to prove how hard she actually was to see!
 

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I wear a tabard and I dont even ride on the road, but my thinking is, should I come off and my horse bog of home, and im on the ground, I will be so much easier to see if and when someone comes looking for me..
 

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This attitude really annoys me. It is not a sign of a nervous rider to want to ensure that you and your horse can be seen by drivers. Neither is it a sign of a competant rider to ride without hi-viz, just a sign of an arrogant one.
I just wish that dog-walkers and joggers round here would wear something to make themselves visible, particularly after dark in winter.

But it is 'sometimes' the sign of a nervous rider, at least based on my own observations. Quite frankly, some of them weren't safe to be on the road, no matter how much hi viz they wore.

The main exceptions to this, have been teenagers who were under strict instructions from parents to wear the full regalia, which is fair enough.

Totally agree about non wearers being arrogant, though again, I'd say some. Not all.
 

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I always wear hi-viz of somekind whilst hacking out - yep its not fashionable or 'cool' but neither is not being seen. I find it helps walkers, dog walkers, cyclists etc see me coming - dog is called back/put on lead.

I get irritated as a rider and motorist when vulnerable road users don't help themselves to be seen - my hubby is a biker and never leaves the house without his hi-viz either. X
 

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Oh wow, this is the photo from me and my partners car!
Its from our in car camera (to reduce costs of insurance and incase of accidents etc etc) This girl often rides out, on a main road, in rush hour, on a spooky bay, with no hi vis. We regularly see her, and so do many others in the area, with black clothes and no reflectives! So we politely and quietly said, "we literally couldn't see you!" to find she went on facebook, on a huge group with 6,000 members and posted that we insulted her.. were extremely rude and we shouldn't be shouting at her to wear hi vis! Well obviously her claims were untrue.. so we uploaded this photo to prove how hard she actually was to see!

Flipping heck. I hope that she ate humble pie once she saw the photo (and now wears hi viz).
 

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No, She saw the photo and told me to 'get a life' and many more rude words which got so bad, I actually blocked her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngdh_lI1UrEHere's a video to go with the shot, its easier to see on here because you're actually looking and expecting to see a horse. You can also see her horse spook, AGAIN, just in front our car, and I don't think she even says thank you? Unless I can't see it?
 

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Oh dear...sadly, that is all too common round our way. No Hi viz, no thanks for slowing down. Makes my blood boil. Why NOT give you and your horse every chance of being seen? It's not flippin' rocket science!
 

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We dont go on the road without something on the riders and ponies. I will stop and tell riders that I see out that have no hi viz on and dark clothing that I couldnt see them. I drive slowly round our lanes but a heck of a lot dont.
Our local famous showjumper can often be seen hacking out with no hat either. How much are those horses worth .................
I would never forgive any rider that went out without hi viz and caused the injury or death of one of mine
 

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This attitude really annoys me. It is not a sign of a nervous rider to want to ensure that you and your horse can be seen by drivers. Neither is it a sign of a competant rider to ride without hi-viz, just a sign of an arrogant one.
I just wish that dog-walkers and joggers round here would wear something to make themselves visible, particularly after dark in winter.


It annoys me a bit too, I plaster Ned head to toe in hi-viz, but I wouldn't say I'm a nervous rider! (at least not any more) I just want him to be seen! Most from my yard use it too and most are pretty decent riders.

And agree about walkers/dog walkers!!! The joggers are pretty good, but I once almost hit a black dog and it's owner because they were in black too! AND in the middle of the road!!! Also a woman who wears clothes that blends in perfectly with her surroundings! She put on hi-viz ONCE and I saw her much sooner!
 

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Its also more effective in the dark to have high vis on legs as the cars beam does not catch the light on the upper body. As the legs move it gives a flicker effect that draws even more attention
 

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Always wear hi viz, without exception. If someone hits us I want them to have absolutely no excuse of 'didn't see them'. It gives drivers more of a chance to slow down (if they wish to) as they see you 3s earlier. If we part company I'm less likely to be missed by any rescue services.
 

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I'm constantly adding to my collection of High Viz. Last night, Aldi, £8.99 - a bright pink waterproof kagoule. I like that one because it has a pocket at the front (for sarnies, Red Bull, hoof pick, Werther's Original - you know, all the stuff that might come in handy).
Glad you outed that one Aimeetess.
 

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I would really like to hear from the people who DONT wear hi-vis.
There are hundreds of valid reasons that hi-vis should be worn, but other than 'its freedom of choice' what are the valid reasons not to?
 

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one of my liveries refuses to wear viz she says blurghhhhhhh i hate it wont wear it..

I always wear some sort of high viz.
 

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Oh wow, this is the photo from me and my partners car!
Its from our in car camera (to reduce costs of insurance and incase of accidents etc etc)

Not heard of this before, except for police cars. Do you get much reduction in your insurance for the camera ?

I was wearing hi viz on the farm track one dark night. YO told me that the jacket didn't show up at all, but because I was wearing (black) Woof yard boots with a reflective strip on the heels, she saw the movement of the boots as I walked.

My OH stopped and escorted a rider back to the yard as light was fading one evening. He drove behind her with his hazard lights flashing. Both she and her horse were wearing hi viz but without reflective strips, it was useless.
 

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I would really like to hear from the people who DONT wear hi-vis.
There are hundreds of valid reasons that hi-vis should be worn, but other than 'its freedom of choice' what are the valid reasons not to?

I do wear hi vis, but there is a valid argument that the more safety equipment is used, the more people change their behavior to increase risk in other ways. I'm struggling to word it but it certainly applies to the wearing of riding hats - put on a safety helmet, confidence goes up, jumps go higher, choice of horse becomes more daring, etc, etc. If drivers become accustomed to seeing riders sooner because riders tend to be wearing hi vis, maybe drivers will become that bit more complacent, go that bit faster, will start to assume they'll have plenty of time to see horses, etc, etc?

I do like safety equipment, I wear a hat and I wear hi vis, but this point does warrant bearing in mind.
 

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My OH stopped and escorted a rider back to the yard as light was fading one evening. He drove behind her with his hazard lights flashing. Both she and her horse were wearing hi viz but without reflective strips, it was useless.

I agree that it must be both bright and reflective.

I am also a hi viz addict as I used to ride along some really busy roads. I like to have a mix of colours and a minimum of something on me, plus something on the horse.

I recently got these in orange and yellow to add to my collection and they are very, very eye catching.
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I do wear hi vis, but there is a valid argument that the more safety equipment is used, the more people change their behavior to increase risk in other ways. I'm struggling to word it but it certainly applies to the wearing of riding hats - put on a safety helmet, confidence goes up, jumps go higher, choice of horse becomes more daring, etc, etc. If drivers become accustomed to seeing riders sooner because riders tend to be wearing hi vis, maybe drivers will become that bit more complacent, go that bit faster, will start to assume they'll have plenty of time to see horses, etc, etc?
I can see your point, and I think there is good evidence that has happened to an extent in the case of better car safety (ASB, airbags, etc.) and motorists' risk-taking behaviour. However, even if the safety measure is canceled out completely by changes in behaviour (which I'm not sure is true), it takes time for habits to change and so it's worth taking advantage of the protection while it is still effective. Until the next safety measure comes along, or the roads become too unsafe for riders...
 

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The point about hi viz and more riders wearing it that Flame makes is a very perinant one .
The main reason for wearing hi viz is to be seen , it won't necessarily slow drivers down or amend their behaviour in any way because just because you can see something eariler does not make you go past it 20 mph on a staight road you as a driver might think the road is clear the visibilty is good the slow moving thing ( a horse ) is narrow and pass at 60.
Hi viz won't stop that , driver education will but how to do that education is the question. I think it's very likely as more and more hi viz is worn the less drivers will take notice of it however it will still make you be seen in situations like the photo at the start of the thread, so wearing it will always be a good thing to do.
 
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