A rather unusual report: horseback archery and jousting...

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An unusually un-highlandy report from me… Not that I’ve reported on anything highland-related in months as we’ve taken the summer off from competing as I just haven’t had the right mindset for it. However, I’m planning to get him out again soon, so maybe you’ll hear more from him some other time (if you like and all that!). Wasn’t sure whether to post in here or TR as it’s not really competitive (well it could be… just not with me doing it!) and it’s not training as the horses are pro’s and clearly not mine… But arguably I’d like to train Fergs to this at some stage so that’s my justification. You can always try and get admin to move it if it offends you :p I digress…

On Sunday I went to the Centre of Horseback Combat in Hemel Hempstead for some training in the art of horseback archery and jousting. If you’ve seen some of my threads in the past, you’ll know this is very much my sort of thing (and Fergs’ too, not that he came with me!) and my super mother got me a voucher for a combat day for my birthday ages ago. I spent the morning learning the basics of archery, shooting horse bows on the ground and getting the idea of the technique. Unsurprisingly, most of the technique is based around not poking your horse in the neck while you’re getting arrows from your quiver (/belt in our case) to the bow ;) It’s also a specific manner of firing using your thumb on the string (I’m sure I’m abusing the technical terminology of which I’m not aware here!) which seems pretty odd at first.

After a wee while of shooting from the ground (and mostly missing the targets even on the ground for me!), we moved out to the field with the horses. I may have become totally wet at this point (literally and metaphorically, given the weather) as the stunning beast I was given was massive – compared to Fergs anyway! – and I’m really not used to riding other people’s horses. So it’s just as well they were planning on leading us up the track the first few times :eek: Unsurprisingly, my pathetic-ness was completely unjustified as the pony was a total gent and behaved impeccably - seriously good brakes – you just touch the reins and he pulls up! - and was generally an absolute credit to his watching owner (and presumably the centre trained them, so them too). Surprisingly though, my aim wasn’t significantly worse at speed on horseback… That may say more about my lack of aim on the ground though! ;)

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We spent a fair bit of time in trot before having a crack at canter. The speed at which you have to get the arrows out and ready to shoot is ridiculous – I have no idea how these guys do it at gallop! Even at a steady canter I only managed to get two fired (and I think one of them didn’t go near a target!) :D It was great fun though and a fabulous way to spend a morning.

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The afternoon session was jousting and generally playing at being knights :D After briefly acquainting ourselves with the jousts (which are surprisingly heavy and difficult to handle!), we were on board again. I had a different horse, who was utterly divine – such a sweet chap who really knew his job – I would happily have taken him home with me! We spent a little time practising “dressing to” (keeping in line with the designated “lead” rider) with varying success and doing some work with flags and short wooden swords.

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We spent some time throwing lances at targets on the floor – again, my aim leaves a fair bit to be desired, but good fun none the less!

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Handling the jousts when mounted was… challenging to say the least. It was blowing a gale, which didn’t help, but the weight of them makes it a bit of a skill to get them up and down safely in the first place – without bashing the poor horses on the head, anyway! The trick is to use the counter-balance at the arm end when you need to get it back up (you sort of push the arm end down with your shoulder, rather than pull it up with your wrist? Does that make sense?!), though it’s not a knack I found very easy to get! Anyway, we attacked the quintain and lines of small targets, which kept blowing over in the wind :eek:

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Brave chaps holding up the targets – with my bloodlust, you don’t want to get in front of me when I’m armed ;)

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And finally, we donned shields, reverted to the short wooden sticks (with the level of control we had over the jousts, it really wouldn’t have been safe to try jousting with them! Ha!) and mock jousted. Starting with the ritual of trotting round in unison, meeting at the fence in the middle (the name of which I’ve forgotten!) to insult one another and then facing down the centre line three times :D Awesome :D

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Anyway, it was great fun and a really good way to spend the day. I couldn’t recommend them enough to anyone who is fancying a go at this stuff – the horses were fabulous, the staff were lovely and the chap who was in charge of teaching us this stuff was brilliant – very patient (and I’m pretty incompetent at following basic instructions so that is saying something!) and a good laugh. Properly awesome and well worth it :D

Of course, I’m now wondering how much of this I can mock up in my field before I get to go back to play again ;)
 
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I got halfway through this post thinking: "bet JFTD has already knocked up a shield and lance to play with at home" when I got to this bit:
Of course, I’m now wondering how much of this I can mock up in my field before I get to go back to play again ;)

We NEED photos for when you do. 'Nuff said :biggrin3:
 
Oh wow what an awesome day out, looks amazing fun

It is indeedy :D

Oh, I sooooooooooooooooo want to go!!!!!!

You clearly should try it ;) Not very convenient for you though!

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I got halfway through this post thinking: "bet JFTD has already knocked up a shield and lance to play with at home" when I got to this bit:

We NEED photos for when you do. 'Nuff said :biggrin3:

Aha you know me too well ;) I'm working on it :p

I want a go!!! Well jel :(

I can just see you and PS jousting each other on CS and Fig :eek: :D :p I'll take on the winner on Fergs ;)

looks a lot of fun. dont mind to have a go myself. do u know how much it costs???
:)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Centre-of-Horseback-Combat/251295594935398?ref=ts&fref=ts

I think it's in the vicinity of £175 for the day, or you can do half day courses in one or t'other for less :) And well worth it!
 
What a great day. Inventive thinking on your mothers part!

She is pretty smart like that - last year it was a flying lesson :eek: :D

Ah! Did you meet Luminoso??? If so that's the PRE stallion I used to post about! He is there now as a jousting/ stunt horse!

Looks like you had a great time :D

Nope, not one of ours on Sunday, probably one of the lucky ones in the fields not having to work ;) It was ace!

That looks loads of fun!!

You can say that again! :p

Brilliant report. My OH has become fixed on the TV programme Full Metal Jousting so must show him this.

Haha they're mental! Properly nuts! (I love it too though - nothing like watching mad men trying to kill each other on horseback!) Thanks :)
 
If you want to carry on competitively you can join the British Horseback Archery Association, who base a lot of their competitions at the centre: http://www.bhaa.org.uk/

Also there are competitive mounted skill at arms competitions under both the British Tentpegging Association www.britishtentpegging.com and both the Sussex Peggers and VWH riding Clubs all practice mounted skill at arms

JFTD - did you get a nice shot of yourself in front of the House there? Not sure people appreciate how pretty it is there!

I hope that the sport continues to grow as it is way more fun that dressage!!!
 
You mention your complete lack of aim.... do you realise you've actually managed to shoot your mount in the head in picture 3 ;)

Definitely looks like an arrow poking out his ear there! :D

Sounds like you had a wicked day!!
 
Did you meet a girl called Sarah? I think she's the left hand rider in your 6th (?) photo. She's a friend from a different forum and was at a jousting day run by the same place over the weekend!
 
Ooh this looks so much fun! Going to put this on my Xmas/bday list I think :D

Excellent plan - you very much should!

Looks so much fun, and those horses must be saints. Looking forward to the Fergs goes jousting thread. Thanks for sharing. :) x

They were properly saintly - very well trained and just lovely. Would definitely have taken the grey home with me! Thanks :) x

If you want to carry on competitively you can join the British Horseback Archery Association, who base a lot of their competitions at the centre: http://www.bhaa.org.uk/

Also there are competitive mounted skill at arms competitions under both the British Tentpegging Association www.britishtentpegging.com and both the Sussex Peggers and VWH riding Clubs all practice mounted skill at arms

JFTD - did you get a nice shot of yourself in front of the House there? Not sure people appreciate how pretty it is there!

I hope that the sport continues to grow as it is way more fun that dressage!!!

I shall go and have a wee look at those links, thanks :) I'd love to do more! Dressage is something we do because, well, Fergs isn't the world's most talented jumper - I'd much rather charge around with lances, swords or shooting things... And so would he!

No photo of horses in front of the house, but do have this (it's grey and 'orrible 'cos of the weather, but you can see how lovely the place is!)

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That looks awesome! I want to play! Have just had a look on the website and might treat myself next year to the full day of archery and jousting :D

Great report and the pics are fab! Lovely horses.

Oh you should. I cannot encourage you enough - it's totally worth it :D Thanks, photos courtesy of mother (despite it blowing a gale / raining non-stop and being so ghastly even the camera couldn't cope in the afternoon!) :)

Wow , looks like AMAZING FUN!!!!!!!

Anyone know if there is anywhere in Ireland that does this???? :)

Dunno, you could ask Cortez as she does some similar stuff and is based in Ireland? 'Tis awesome :D

You mention your complete lack of aim.... do you realise you've actually managed to shoot your mount in the head in picture 3 ;)

Definitely looks like an arrow poking out his ear there! :D

Sounds like you had a wicked day!!

HA! Well spotted, it does too!! :D

It was properly grand :)

Lucky boy! Not like him to enjoy a day off ;)

Well, I don't know for sure he was enjoying it - I didn't find him to ask ;) :p


Oh and a rather long raw video of some of the stuff we were doing here if anyone's interested:

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(muted due to wind noise!)
 
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Wow, that looks like my kind of day out :)

You look to be doing a pretty good job (or did you edit out the photos where you stab yourself in the foot etc? :p).

Did anybody else find picture three rather alarming, as it appears the horse has been shot in the ear with an arrow? (ETA note to self - read to end of thread before posting...)

So. Will you be trying this at home?
 
Wow, that looks like my kind of day out :)

You look to be doing a pretty good job (or did you edit out the photos where you stab yourself in the foot etc? :p).

Did anybody else find picture three rather alarming, as it appears the horse has been shot in the ear with an arrow? (ETA note to self - read to end of thread before posting...)

So. Will you be trying this at home?

Lol, my biggest fail of the day was jumping off the bay (whose name escapes me at the moment) and forgetting it was a foot further to the ground than I'm used to - I swear my ankle joints are a centimetre closer together now :eek: I thought that was pretty good for a day spent playing with sharp pointy things :p :D

As for your final question... Hi, I'm JFTD and I'm addicted to doing stupid things with my ponies and mocking up obscure horse sports in my field... Does that answer your question? :D

That looks AWESOME!


:D It is awesome ;)
 
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Have a go at making this - it's our design for a combination quintain and rings post. You'll also need a pell, or Saracen's Head post to chop your melons on (and a sword....). If you are serious about this I can give you the dimensions for the lances (that's the proper name, not "jousts"), the central divider is called the list. Fergs would be an excellent Destrier/jousting pony............
 
Have a go at making this - it's our design for a combination quintain and rings post. You'll also need a pell, or Saracen's Head post to chop your melons on (and a sword....). If you are serious about this I can give you the dimensions for the lances (that's the proper name, not "jousts"), the central divider is called the list. Fergs would be an excellent Destrier/jousting pony............

Thanks for that - the terminology was all over the place when I wrote this (it was late, I'd been fighting with my laptop editing photos all evening!) and even the reasonably obvious (lance - facepalm!) was escaping me! The list, on the other hand has been annoying me all day, so that's useful :p

It's been a long time since I've done any wood work (seriously, not since my GCSEs!) but I reckon even I could follow those specs... The issue I'm going to have is that my field will be unusable all winter so I doubt we can do anything fun before next spring. But I'm definitely up for training him and having a proper play with this stuff. :)

(btw - I need to do this with Daemon next year - how cool would that sound: "Daemon the Destrier" :D )
 
Thanks for posting. It was really interesting to read. You really look
the part. Can't wait to read about your at home sword based antics!! :)
 
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