cremedemonthe
Well-Known Member
A warning to you all about the european city guide, I got caught with this scam and am now plagued by threatening letters, emails and phonecalls, learn from my mistakes here's my story:
I received a letter saying I could have a free listing in the eurocity guide, that was in Oct 2009, I was just literally going out of the door to hospital for a large operation so didn't take too much notice, signed it and sent it back.I actually thought it was part of my Equine trade Directory which I am listed in and it was the European version, my own stupidity there I'm afraid for not reading properly . Many months later, May 2010 to be precise, I received a bill and a cd showing my listing neither of which I wanted.I wrote to them saying I wasnt interested and wanted to cancel it, no I wasnt allowed to apparently, I was getting worried as I dont have the sort of money they wanted to pay for it (about £1,000+) per year).Then the letters started arriving, one after the other, its then I googled them and found out how people are being misled uinto signing these things, I felt very stupid as I am usually on the ball about scams but it caught me out.
Yesterday I had a phone call from Maria Rodriguez who is supposed to be the legal dept (yeah right) told her I knew it was a scam and p off. She immediately rang back and snottily said I don't think you are in any postion to hang up so then she got the real verbal which I won't repeat on here but use your imagination, no more calls but today I've have this in an email:
Dear Sir,
We refer to our telephone conversation of this morning and we note with disappointment your inability to engage in professional dialogue and communication and failure to assume your legal, professional and contractual responsibilities.
Please note that you are definitely NOT in a position to interrupt the conversation by hanging up the phone and we would strongly advise that you should refrain from such a_ctions in the future with a view to avoiding further costs and complications.
Contractual law stipulates that inadvertent orders resulting out of prior negligent examination of commercial offers and agreements are the responsibility of the subscriber and this has been confirmed by jurisprudence. A legally binding signature on a document is an indication that the form has been read and understood and that the signatory wishes to confirm his agreement to the whole content of the document, i.e. to the order conditions as well.
All these a.m. points would be held against you in case of a legal procedure in Spain. If you consult a solicitor, he will confirm the situation as exposed above. Legal a_ction would certainly not be in your interest.
We thus give you this last chance to obtain an out of court solution and settle the amount of 2341,99 EUR until and no later than 03.02.2012nto our account. This would then terminate the order with immediate effect, payment being regarded for full and final.
In the negative, our mandate would force us to strongly advise our client to initiate legal proceedings in the place of jurisdiction that you agreed to, contained in the orders conditions, i.e. Valencia in Spain. This procedure will generate additional costs for you such as dunning fees, interests for delay and other juridical costs.
We believe that costly court proceedings are not in your interest and thus count on your cooperation to finally resolve this outstanding issue.
We anticipate that you will honour your contractual obligations to our company and settle your payment as soon as possible.
Yours faithfully
Maria Rodriguez
LEGAL DEPARTMENT
TELF.. 0034-682-363-681
Fax. 0034-901-667-198
e-mail: mr@recovery-office.com
Again, told her to bring it on, Ill see them in court and to f off
Received yet another cd in the post the other day too which has gone in the bin.
If they want to waste their money its up to them. But to save any of you the hassle of having to ignore these scumbags beware, there is a link below to read about them and they have other scams going too. Their city guide website is a real site, ,my business in on it, I don't want to be but I can't get it removed, what's so bad is the underhand tactics they use to get you to "sign up" when you think it's a free listing, they target mainly businesses, schools and charities, be warned!
If you do get done under NO circumstances send them any money, there's plenty about them and how to combat it if you google European City Guide Scam, been going on for years and they just move country when they get busted.
Read here for details:
http://david.baldaro.me.uk/2010/02/european-city-guide-scam/
PLEASE pass the message on to all your friends, learn from my stupidity you have my full permission to share this, Oz
I received a letter saying I could have a free listing in the eurocity guide, that was in Oct 2009, I was just literally going out of the door to hospital for a large operation so didn't take too much notice, signed it and sent it back.I actually thought it was part of my Equine trade Directory which I am listed in and it was the European version, my own stupidity there I'm afraid for not reading properly . Many months later, May 2010 to be precise, I received a bill and a cd showing my listing neither of which I wanted.I wrote to them saying I wasnt interested and wanted to cancel it, no I wasnt allowed to apparently, I was getting worried as I dont have the sort of money they wanted to pay for it (about £1,000+) per year).Then the letters started arriving, one after the other, its then I googled them and found out how people are being misled uinto signing these things, I felt very stupid as I am usually on the ball about scams but it caught me out.
Yesterday I had a phone call from Maria Rodriguez who is supposed to be the legal dept (yeah right) told her I knew it was a scam and p off. She immediately rang back and snottily said I don't think you are in any postion to hang up so then she got the real verbal which I won't repeat on here but use your imagination, no more calls but today I've have this in an email:
Dear Sir,
We refer to our telephone conversation of this morning and we note with disappointment your inability to engage in professional dialogue and communication and failure to assume your legal, professional and contractual responsibilities.
Please note that you are definitely NOT in a position to interrupt the conversation by hanging up the phone and we would strongly advise that you should refrain from such a_ctions in the future with a view to avoiding further costs and complications.
Contractual law stipulates that inadvertent orders resulting out of prior negligent examination of commercial offers and agreements are the responsibility of the subscriber and this has been confirmed by jurisprudence. A legally binding signature on a document is an indication that the form has been read and understood and that the signatory wishes to confirm his agreement to the whole content of the document, i.e. to the order conditions as well.
All these a.m. points would be held against you in case of a legal procedure in Spain. If you consult a solicitor, he will confirm the situation as exposed above. Legal a_ction would certainly not be in your interest.
We thus give you this last chance to obtain an out of court solution and settle the amount of 2341,99 EUR until and no later than 03.02.2012nto our account. This would then terminate the order with immediate effect, payment being regarded for full and final.
In the negative, our mandate would force us to strongly advise our client to initiate legal proceedings in the place of jurisdiction that you agreed to, contained in the orders conditions, i.e. Valencia in Spain. This procedure will generate additional costs for you such as dunning fees, interests for delay and other juridical costs.
We believe that costly court proceedings are not in your interest and thus count on your cooperation to finally resolve this outstanding issue.
We anticipate that you will honour your contractual obligations to our company and settle your payment as soon as possible.
Yours faithfully
Maria Rodriguez
LEGAL DEPARTMENT
TELF.. 0034-682-363-681
Fax. 0034-901-667-198
e-mail: mr@recovery-office.com
Again, told her to bring it on, Ill see them in court and to f off
Received yet another cd in the post the other day too which has gone in the bin.
If they want to waste their money its up to them. But to save any of you the hassle of having to ignore these scumbags beware, there is a link below to read about them and they have other scams going too. Their city guide website is a real site, ,my business in on it, I don't want to be but I can't get it removed, what's so bad is the underhand tactics they use to get you to "sign up" when you think it's a free listing, they target mainly businesses, schools and charities, be warned!
If you do get done under NO circumstances send them any money, there's plenty about them and how to combat it if you google European City Guide Scam, been going on for years and they just move country when they get busted.
Read here for details:
http://david.baldaro.me.uk/2010/02/european-city-guide-scam/
PLEASE pass the message on to all your friends, learn from my stupidity you have my full permission to share this, Oz
