A yay and an ouch report! Confidence and adrenalin musings?!

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Will keep it short as possible!

Took madam for her first jumping show since July last year, due to various issues which have meant a massive bill for NFU, but luckily a now VERY sound and very well feeling pony!

Anyway, she warmed up a darling, nice and chilled, jumping from a nice deep spot (we've been working on this massively!) and staying relaxed and calm, except the occasional hump and squeak just to show appreciation ;) Anyway, first class (dizzying heights of 80cm!) she was fine cantering round the arena, really soft and calm, turned to the first fence, and about 100yards out, she spins and naps, which is an old baby trick she used to do a lot! Patted her, kicked her forward, and she was off! Jumped a double clear, but she just felt hurried, and I couldn't make the adjustments I'd of liked. However, came 4th, and she went on all the lines etc I wanted.

Popped her back in the box, dragged her back out for the second class, warmed up over a bigger oxer very realxed, and jumped really sweetly. Took her in the ring, same nap at the first fence, same solution, all fine. I really made sure I was working on slowing the tempo, and keeping everything calm, which was fine! Jumped 4 well, turned towards 5, and literally as soon as she clocked it ( a long way out!), she slammed the brakes on and spun, ejecting me out the side door.

Now I am 99% sure that she does this when she isn't jumping off adrenalin (so going fast!) and just almost bottles it. It only happens in the ring, or when something really spooks her. If she has a hesitation at home, it's normally just a case of keeping her steady until she has worked it out herself, and then supporting her when she takes the fence on. However, at a competiton, she doesnt give me the chance to stay on to support her, she almost makes a snap decision, and that's that!! She almost "dares" herself loose jumping too, and will take herself round in a tiny trot, lock on to he fence and then gallop at them!

Any ideas what to try to sort this out?! I am happy staying over teeny stuff for as long as it takes, she has never been over faced, and the start of it was the spell of lameness she had. My friend who was with me reckons trying a calmer may be worth a try, just to take the "instinct" sharpness down a spell?!

Anyway, no "fat controller" friendly photo's unfortunately :( but thanks in advance for any help :D
 
Glad to hear she seemed happier and was pinging, Im having a similar thing with my mare but with x-c she seems to have lost her nerve a bit with ditches and steps down, have yet to try SJ's again yet. Could it be that she is expecting the discomfort and just needs a bit more match practice to regain her confidence???
 
Could it be that she is expecting the discomfort and just needs a bit more match practice to regain her confidence???

Agree with this re:the panicking moment?? Maybe with more parties and schooling she'll be ok? But yes, could try a calmer; one of the syringe ones you give them on the day? might take the edge off her.

But well done, glad to see her out and about again! some nice photos on facebook :)
 
My boy was exactly the same, still inclined every now and then but not as much as he used to. He would clock a scary filler out the corner of his eye, didn't even have to be one we were jumping, or timing equipment :mad: and he would spin straight away, without even giving me a chance to show him, he would just instantly say "no way, not going near that!" have a little paddy then (if I had stayed on!) I would just ask him again and he'd be like "oh, ok it wasn't that scary" sooo annoying! :mad::D I just found mileage to be the best thing. He's just turned 8 and still as spooky as ever but the spinning has reduced and just about stopped really. He's worse in the Spring. I've also put him on Equine America So Kalm, a magnesium supplement which seems to have taken the "edge" off but not the spark I need for competing.

Hope this helps, good luck with her she sounds lovely! :)
 
RCP, that sounds very familiar!! It's so frustrating, cos if i could stay on her, she normally works it out and is fine, but she doesn't give herself (or me!) a chance! She hasn't been out for so long though, so I guess that doesn't help!! She's 8 too, but had most of last year off, and has never been competed that regularly, so perhaps mileage will help...!!

Your boy is stunning!!
 
RCP, that sounds very familiar!! It's so frustrating, cos if i could stay on her, she normally works it out and is fine, but she doesn't give herself (or me!) a chance! She hasn't been out for so long though, so I guess that doesn't help!! She's 8 too, but had most of last year off, and has never been competed that regularly, so perhaps mileage will help...!!

Your boy is stunning!!

No probs! I think its just a case of persivering as well, mine has all the talent and should really be out jumping 130 classes but his immature mind holds him back :D

He will get there in the end, slow and steady wins the race as they say haha! Thank you :)
 
Glad to hear you are back out and about competing!!

Just taking a slightly different approach - what do you feed her? I seem to remember that your mare is generally quite spooky in all situations - is that right? You may have seen my post but my horse was recently diagnosed with RER so i have cut all starch and sugar out of her diet. She used to be terribly spooky about everything but without the starch she is a million times better - it is actually quite unbelievable how different she is! I'm not suggesting that your horse has anything like this, but I am now such a big believer in the influence of starch and sugar on the horses behaviour that i thought it might be worth mentioning!
 
Glad to hear you are back out and about competing!!

Just taking a slightly different approach - what do you feed her? I seem to remember that your mare is generally quite spooky in all situations - is that right? You may have seen my post but my horse was recently diagnosed with RER so i have cut all starch and sugar out of her diet. She used to be terribly spooky about everything but without the starch she is a million times better - it is actually quite unbelievable how different she is! I'm not suggesting that your horse has anything like this, but I am now such a big believer in the influence of starch and sugar on the horses behaviour that i thought it might be worth mentioning!

Mine is excatly the same as op, thats if I can manage to get him in the arena to begin with!
What are you feeding yours Supanova? Thinking it may be worth a look for us, hes currently on A&P Fast Fibre, and Ride & Relax, plus Hi fi molasses free. Pm if you prefer.
 
The only thing I would stop doing is giving her a pat, totally ignore her spin and nap if you can and pick her back up then carry on.

If you pat her to reassure her, she could take it that its ok to do this and it become a habit. Agree with others that mileage is the best thing.

And there is nothing wrong with an 80cm height :D
 
Mine is excatly the same as op, thats if I can manage to get him in the arena to begin with!
What are you feeding yours Supanova? Thinking it may be worth a look for us, hes currently on A&P Fast Fibre, and Ride & Relax, plus Hi fi molasses free. Pm if you prefer.

The diet is still very much work in process but I have her just on Speedibeet at the moment (which has no starch and low sugar) with a vit and min supplement. I am just increasing her work load so have started to add oil for energy. She wasn't fed a high starch diet before, but the difference in her behaviour is still quite significant. I have actually got a saracen nutritionist coming to see her on Friday and i think they will be recommending she goes on Re-Leve, although i am a little in two minds because i like the fact with speedibeet i know exactly whats in it and i can just add oil for additional energy etc. Its a total minefield this feeding lark! I think even feeds that are sold as being low starch on sugar, sometimes aren't that low in either! It may be worth testing your horse by just feeding speedibeet for a couple of weeks so at least you can see if there is any difference?
 
Thanks guys, Supanova unfortunately she is already on just pure alfalfa pellets, speedibeet, linseed and a bit and min supplement! She has only a small amount of alfalfa, but won't eat speeeibeet without them!
 
The only thing I would stop doing is giving her a pat, totally ignore her spin and nap if you can and pick her back up then carry on.

If you pat her to reassure her, she could take it that its ok to do this and it become a habit.

Agree with this! I never patted mine, didn't smack him either though as this would send him in to a major teenager strop and he would refuse even more :D just ignoring it and continuing was the best.

Definitely with more mileage she will improve, and also I found a lot of HC rounds too! :rolleyes::p
 
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