abit colicy, please help!

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I am slightly worried about my TB.
Yesterday he had two apples and a little bit of haylage, he is normally on hay and only gets a handful of haylage know and again but, he was tied up and i went to the tack toom and another livery told me that my horse had threatened to kick her! (my horse never kicks :/!) and then i went home and left my boss to finish him off (feed and put a hay net in!) but i came down this morning and he was very sensative around his tummy and VERY grumpy, even more so than usual but he ate his breakfast no problem! Now, when i walked him to the field he got down and rolled on the path and he has never done that before and after he got up i let him go and he got down and rolled some more again but then got up and ate as normal?
my boss brought him in for me and he ate his haynet as normal and when i came down around 5pm ish to finish him off, he was still VERY narky, so i dont no what to think? the only thing is im thinking abit of spasmodic colic from the apples yesterday? as when he had colic last time we put it down to apples :/
 
Could be a touch of colic, we have had 3 horses at my yard in the last 2 weeks with colic (including my one of my own!). If it is mild, then hopefully he can sort himself out, but would recommend that you keep a regular eye on him as a mild case can easily turn into something more serious. Certainly would be going back to check him tonight or at least get the yard owner to check him. Would not leave him till the morning, chances he will be fine but you never know.

Might be an idea to also just have a chat with the vet on the phone to see what they would recommend you do i.e. walk inhand for half hour, give him a bute etc.

Hope he is o.k.
 
As Vetsbestfriend says. I'd go down again now, if you're not already there, and have a chat to the on-duty vet by phone while you're actually WITH the horse. Frankly, when mine have had colic I spend the night with them but that may not be possible for you? Your YO seems nice (you say he/she was doing his haynets etc). Why don't you have a chat with her/him. Do they live on the premises? If so, they'd probably offer you at least a chair in their house for the night. I've certainly had my liveries stay overnight on occasion. Please don't just leave it. My girl died inspite of my attentions.

If it's nothing, y ou'll just put it down to a good Christmas story. If it is something, you'll have nothing to reproach yourself with. The vet may want to come out and adminster Buscopan or whatever too.
 
i dont have anyone to check on him :( he seemed fine in himself, he got brought in at 3 and at 6 had done three poo's. im just abit worried as i think its just very mild colic but there is a vet on our yard so will check on him first thing tomorrow and if hes still no better ill have a word with her if she is down! just wanted to see if anyone thought it was anything different or if anyone thought it was colic
will update tomorrow when i see him and know more
thank you
 
Hopefully you will get the report back that he is fine munching his haynet.

Colic is one of those horrible things that really does need monitoring, especially if the horse has a high pain threshold and although may only look slightly uncomfortable, could be really in pain. By the time my boy 'shows' me he has colic, it is instantly on the phone to the vet and get them there asap.

Providing he is o.k. tonight, might definately be worthwhile having a chat with the vet that is coming to the yard tomorrow. :-)
 
Good idea to ask someone on site to check him this evening.

I find it useful to take temperature and pulse (using a stethoscope, so it's really easy to find) if I'm worried about any of mine. If I do need to speak to the vet, those figures also give them an idea of just how uncomfortable my horse is and how much of an emergency it is.

Does sound as though he's uncomfortable. As you say, getting down and rolling on the path is out of character. And especially to do it twice.

Try watching him for a good length of time - half an hour or so - and see what he does. Does he look at his flanks at all? How many times does he lie down and get up in that space of time? All that kind of thing. Anything else that he's doing that's different to normal.

At least he's still pooing, which has to be good.

Hope he's ok.

Sarah
 
I have just got a text back off the person who lives on premasis, saying he is fine, there is good noise coming from his stomach, poo is normal and he is eating hay! I will keep a very close eye on him tomorrow though, and if need be will speak to the vet just in case!
Its really not worth risking!
 
I worry too much :( he seems fine in himself eg he was fine to ride and ate all his breakfast and went out okay but he still is horribly narkey :/ really bad around his tummy area, ive put boitics in his tea tonight to help but, im not sure what else?!
 
does this horse have ulcers ? apples can cause problems for ulcer horses and can aggrevate the stomach thus leading to colic or colic like symptoms , hope your horse is on the road to recovery xxx
 
No he does not have ulcers. We got him scoped at pony hospital and they came back and said 'there is no excuse for your ponys bad behaviour' i was like, brilliant.
I'm really at a loss, as the only other thing is we are gradually building him up to more speedibeet which he really needs as we have no grass. But, i didnt think there was anything in that to set it off? :confused: :(
 
Have read all the replys here - I don't think he would try and kick 'randomly' if he is not a kicker and has a very nice nature normally. My guess would be that his stomach found the apples too acidic, which caused mild upset - but not full on colic. So basically enough to make him grumpy and sore, which would explain the rolling and kicking. My advice would be to avoid apples in the future and monitor him carefully any time you introduce a new feed :)
 
Hi. For all those that are interested, we think he may have pulled a muscle in his neck/chest and his left hindquater.
I am going to feed his hay on the floor (he gobbels it so fast it will all go in the speed of lighting :(!)
He was due for the physio in the new year anyway, so will just take it easy until she has been to see him. Failing that theres anything wrong there, the vet is the next call!
 
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