Accident/pretty shocking driving

What a sad state. That is a myth but the scaremongers are out in force. It was a very good example for people which will now be lost to the wind. No one will care in a few months.
 
I was not brave enough to click play though I saw the link in several places and all over fb. I just couldn't bring myself to watch it.

I really hope horses and riders are OK. And I hope the driver gets his licence taken from him (have read everything I've seen about it so I know what happened)
 
WEC have just put this up on their FB page.

We would like to say that we are very grateful for the concern that people have shown for both the horses and riders involved in yesterday's accident. We will post progress on the horses as appropriate. Patsy had a good night last night and was eagerly looking for treats this morning! Fleur also was fine this morning. Riders are stiff but ok. We will not be commenting upon the video which has become public and the matter is being dealt with by the police.

Very encouraging update about Patsy (the coloured horse).
 
Amazing if those horses come out of it physically fine especially Patsy. Poor Fleur only ran off when the other vehicle came and can't say I blame her!
 
Simply unbelievable, words fail me! Hope all riders/horses are ok, hard to believe there won't be any lasting affects especially for patsy, very lucky there were no fatalities all 4 must have 9 lives! ! Boxed to hack with friend today, her husband escorted us across a main road, the speed the traffic was going was insane, well over the speed limit. The roads can be sooo dangerous and it just keeps getting worse!
 
equi said:
What a sad state. That is a myth but the scaremongers are out in force. It was a very good example for people which will now be lost to the wind. No one will care in a few months.
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It is not a myth. Discussion in the media can be said to have prejudiced the right to a fair trial.
 
It's awful, you can only imagine what was going through their minds. You'd be stuck thinking about whether to move onto the verge or if the car would go that way.

In a film Bruce Willis would have managed to expertly time an avoidance maneuvere but it doesn't happen in real life. I bet if the riders have seen the video they're willing themselves to move, but there's no way they could have known where the car was going.
 
I am so pleased to learn that the horses and riders are (just about) OK. If I had been riding I don't know if I would have the courage to ride on the road again

I really hope the publicity will help to educate the public about the risks to horses and riders. I hope the Police throw the book at the driver but sadly unless a person is killed it seems nothing is done. Perhaps a time to review legislation on motorists' obligations to horses and riders.
 
Yeah it's hard to believe piebald was 'ok' :/ I really really hope so though :(

Just so shocking. Keeps playing through my mind. Thoughts are with all involved x
 
I keep my horse at Witcham EC and know the horses and riders very well. Everyone here would like to thank you all for your good wishes. Patsy is being an amazing patient and all being well should make a full recovery. Fleur and the two riders are bruised and battered but okay. Updates will be posted on the Witcham EC Facebook page if anyone is interested. Thanks again for support, it means a lot to us.
 
CalamityJ said:
I keep my horse at Witcham EC and know the horses and riders very well. Everyone here would like to thank you all for your good wishes. Patsy is being an amazing patient and all being well should make a full recovery. Fleur and the two riders are bruised and battered but okay. Updates will be posted on the Witcham EC Facebook page if anyone is interested. Thanks again for support, it means a lot to us.
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Thank you for posting this encouraging update - best wishes to both horses and riders. I hope the driver gets what he due, this so easily could have been fatal.
 
teapot said:
Especially for Crown court cases. It can also impact on members of the jury.
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This is a driving offence. It won't go in front of a jury. It's not that sort of crime. It being on fb will not stop the investigation. Trust me I have a good source.
 
CalamityJ said:
I keep my horse at Witcham EC and know the horses and riders very well. Everyone here would like to thank you all for your good wishes. Patsy is being an amazing patient and all being well should make a full recovery. Fleur and the two riders are bruised and battered but okay. Updates will be posted on the Witcham EC Facebook page if anyone is interested. Thanks again for support, it means a lot to us.
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CalamityJ thanks for that, having only just moved here I never realised when I posted it was literally 10 mins up the road from me as it was shared by one of my somerset friends and I haven't made any new horsey contacts/got my bearings up here yet.
 
equi said:
This is a driving offence. It won't go in front of a jury. It's not that sort of crime. It being on fb will not stop the investigation. Trust me I have a good source.
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Honestly .... I will be surprised if it gets to court at all! If it does the defendant's solicitor will definitely have an argument that media discussion has affected his client's right to a fair trial. I don't have to refer to any source, this kind of issue was my field for some time!
 
minesadouble said:
Honestly .... I will be surprised if it gets to court at all! If it does the defendant's solicitor will definitely have an argument that media discussion has affected his client's right to a fair trial. I don't have to refer to any source, this kind of issue was my field for some time!
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Why should it not go to court? Are you comfortable with that?
 
minesadouble said:
Honestly .... I will be surprised if it gets to court at all! If it does the defendant's solicitor will definitely have an argument that media discussion has affected his client's right to a fair trial. I don't have to refer to any source, this kind of issue was my field for some time!
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Just as social media had an effect on the grey pony being beaten case? Not....

Discussing in the media does not prevent trials as proved in several very high profile cases in recent years.
 
minesadouble said:
Honestly .... I will be surprised if it gets to court at all! If it does the defendant's solicitor will definitely have an argument that media discussion has affected his client's right to a fair trial. I don't have to refer to any source, this kind of issue was my field for some time!
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Everything horrendous is well reported in the media before any trial. Doesn't mean people get away with things! The driver hasn't been named or identified.

I think people are confusing this with talking about a court case, when they are involved in it, which is completely different.
 
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equi said:
This is a driving offence. It won't go in front of a jury. It's not that sort of crime. It being on fb will not stop the investigation. Trust me I have a good source.
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Of course it can go to a jury ! FB has already be responsible for many people getting off as they could not be guaranteed a fair trial. Why this obsession with putting them up on FB even before the police have been involved it wont actually educate anybody . It just satisfies the needs of rubber neckers who arent there at the time. Its the polices job to investigate and prosecute not the FB tribe who only see a small portion of what actually happened and the full circumstances.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Everything horrendous is well reported in the media before any trial. Doesn't mean people get away with things! The driver hasn't been named or identified.

I think people are confusing this with talking about a court case, when they are involved in it, which is completely different.
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You will find the press are well aware of the evidence boundaries they may not cross in most cases! you will always find out new facts at trial that the press have not reported. Its a very fine line. If in doubt do not give them the opportunity to say they wont get a fair trial.
 
popsdosh said:
You will find the press are well aware of the evidence boundaries they may not cross in most cases! you will always find out new facts at trial that the press have not reported. Its a very fine line. If in doubt do not give them the opportunity to say they wont get a fair trial.
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Yes, as I said, this is nothing new in terms of being reported about before a trial. It doesn't mean the person will get off. What is a problem is jurors or witnesses discussing things on FB etc during the case. Completely different to a report on an RTA in the media which happens all the time. It's right that the people involved don't discuss it.
 
Tiddlypom said:
Why should it not go to court? Are you comfortable with that?
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Its not a question of being comfortable with it and I think that comment was unfair ! It is our laws that try to guarantee a fair trial so everybody can be tried by jury if need be and not by media. I think if you ever ended up on the other end you would be more sympathetic. Dont say you wont because sometimes circumstances put you there.
 
popsdosh said:
Of course it can go to a jury ! FB has already be responsible for many people getting off as they could not be guaranteed a fair trial. Why this obsession with putting them up on FB even before the police have been involved it wont actually educate anybody . It just satisfies the needs of rubber neckers who arent there at the time. Its the polices job to investigate and prosecute not the FB tribe who only see a small portion of what actually happened and the full circumstances.
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I'm certain that if the video of the grey pony hadn't caused such an uproar on Facebook there wouldn't have even been a prosecution. They'd have at the most got a telling off. I do think public pressure is a good thing sometimes.
 
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