Adopting a Dog from a Rescue Shelter

Hi just been reading about this poor dog,you have named the rescue have you asked them to help at all?I would love to know what they said when you asked for help.did they refuse to take her back as all rescues I know offer rbu
 
Totally agree with Planete post earlier . My border collie has fear aggression, and we have owned her since a puppy. This was as a result of being attacked by my other collie at about six months. yes, it can be difficult and in my case never quite resolved but with time,patience and knowing your dog it can be managed. Good luck, hope it all works out well for the dog.
 
I work with the rescue you rehomed the dog through and although there have been some hurdles, the rescue has offered to take the dog back. You were given the option of returning the dog, we offered to collect the dog, we have offered for our behaviourist to visit you and offer help and assistance. The rescue has offered to pay for the spay. The trustee you have been communicating with has been nothing but polite to you and offered help and advice.

When you collected the dog we advised you to allow her to settle for a couple of weeks before introducing her to new environments and situations. You chose to ignore all advice given and on the way home took her to the stables.

We can only offer advice to people when adopting a dog, if they choose to ignore the advice given then that is down to them. These dogs have come from all kinds of backgrounds and some settle quickly, others take a little more time.

I will finish my comment by saying all the rescue have asked is that you do not euthanise the dog as we feel her issues are things that can be resolved through training. The rescues door is always open to you, we are all very approachable, we have a great team and a superb success rate with rehoming.
 
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Sorry to pull up on this but someone has just commented to say you have been offered help and this started because you told them you were having the dog put to sleep.i am very interested in why you would say they offered no help?
 
Interesting.good to see that someone from the rescue has had a chance to reply.can we ask you questions.as the person named your rescue I guess you are able to do that freely now.
 
they didn't say they were offered no help? They said they were offered a behaviouralist who the OP couldn't find on any of the registries so was unsure about using.

I'm genuinely shocked that this imported rescue appears not to have been spayed, and can only hope that doesn't mean other corners were cut pre-import.
 
I think it has been great that the rescue has been in contact and has stated their side of the case. They have offered to spay the bitch, which seems totally fair.
The bitch may have had some sort of midline scar which the rescue took as a spay scar, the only other option would have been to operate and see if it was spayed or not and why do extra surgery when after a few months wait you will know.
I hope all works out for bitch and owner now.
 
I see what you mean about the imported rescue but i wonder if its a genuine mistake.some rescues don't spay/neuter their dogs it's the exporters choice.sorry trying to use your words
 
Haven't read other responses but regarding the rehoming criteria, I can't remember them offhand but I do remember seeing a programme about rehoming on TV. They had a checklist of behaviours that would disqualify a dog for rehoming. I was a bit embarrassed to realise that my Jack Russell has most of them :rolleyes3:
 
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WeeLassie said:
So, BizzyIzzy - on Wed lunchtime you feel shes making progress and you are keeping her to see how she goes. Then Thursday you say shes come into season and you are annoyed. Then today you say you are letting her go to another charity and are going to lie to where you got her from and say you rehomed her.
She is aggressive, presumably big and a danger to other dogs.
Why can you not go back to where she came from and tell the truth? They may pay for her to be spayed.
Passing her around to yet another home doesnt seem kind- as someone suggested above maybe you should be brave, do not let other people cloud your judgement and get her PTS? Seems the best thing to do IMO, before someone gets hurt. Not all dogs are rehomable.
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Where are you getting the lies from? I have already told them the truth, the whole truth. And I would love that she made progress, but it's fleeting and despite my best efforts, the aggression continues.
 
Just back from a walk tonight, trying to find somewhere quiet for her, but being the time of year and lovely weather, every man and his dog was out. I thought I was getting somewhere, I am not. I am running out of places I can take her, and I like to walk her several times a day. Tonight was awful, just terrible. I am not going to go into details as I am too upset with everything. Thanks for all the advice and support, it's been really appreciated. I guess I have learned a hard lesson tonight and over the last few months. Very sad.
 
Clodagh said:
You can tell if a bitch has been spayed, they look quite different (girl bits wise).
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They dont really. I have had bitches spayed and the vagina/nipples look no different after than before. There is usually a small scar but this fades with time and the presence of a scar might denote some other operation apart from spaying.
 
buzyizzy said:
Just back from a walk tonight, trying to find somewhere quiet for her, but being the time of year and lovely weather, every man and his dog was out. I thought I was getting somewhere, I am not. I am running out of places I can take her, and I like to walk her several times a day. Tonight was awful, just terrible. I am not going to go into details as I am too upset with everything. Thanks for all the advice and support, it's been really appreciated. I guess I have learned a hard lesson tonight and over the last few months. Very sad.
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You have been speaking with one of our trustees and we have advised on numerous occasions that we will come and collect her. We offered to pay for spay (if required). Which from my understanding you were forwarding the quote from the vet in order for us to contact them and arrange direct payment. Tonight however the trustee contacted you after I pointed out that you wanted to hand her over to another rescue to confirm what you wanted to do in regards to all this. You replied to say you were working until ten, you had enough to deal with and didn’t have time for all this tittle tattle. You then proceeded to block the lady. How exactly is this resolving the situation? If you wish to contact myself, you can find me on Facebook via the rescues group, which you have removed yourself from, although you will still be able to find me in the members section under admin. I did also previously send you a message regarding Rolly which could possibly be in your ‘others’ mailbox on messenger.
 
One of mine sounds exactly like yours, OP. Lovely dog at home, clever, gorgeous, wants to kill other dogs who run up to him. He's very ball focused and lives to retrieve, his saving grace. Most owners know to stop their dogs away from him, he won't approach other dogs, but is extremely agitated if they come near him. I've had him since he was 9 weeks old,, he wasn't always like this but was attacked as a young dog. He's had thousands spent on trainers/behaviourists. He won't change.

It's very difficult to manage a dog like this, very stressful, but not a PTS case, imo.
 
buzyizzy said:
Where are you getting the lies from? I have already told them the truth, the whole truth. And I would love that she made progress, but it's fleeting and despite my best efforts, the aggression continues.
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The rescue are contacting you on here offering help. And saying that you won’t accept the help. What exactly is it that you want? Please, just let the rescue take the dog back and allow it the opportunity for a new life with someone willing to work on her issues. Forgive me but I am at a loss as to what you would like the rescue to do when they are here offering everything you have asked them to. Please for the dog’s sake, let them have her back :)
 
I can understand the OPs reluctance to return the dog to a rescue who she considers already let this dog down by not doing thorough behavioural assessments initially and having spent time with the dog may be rightly concerned about what happens next. They have also suggested a behaviouralist who is potentially not registered and these situations can become difficult when there is water under the bridge as this has been going on since February.
 
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I can understand the OPs reluctance to return the dog to a rescue who she considers already let this dog down by not doing thorough behavioural assessments initially and having spent time with the dog may be rightly concerned about what happens next. They have also suggested a behaviouralist who is potentially not registered and these situations can become difficult when there is water under the bridge as this has been going on since February.
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I totally appreciate where you are coming from. Unfortunately this dog was rehomed directly from kennels and was not given time to settle in her new environment before being introduced to new things outside of her new home. Without being given time to adjust a rescues behaviour can change. All dogs are different and some cope better than others.

She was thoroughly tested with other dogs, cats etc and displayed none of the behaviour experienced by the OP. She is clearly struggling with the dogs behaviour as as told us numerous times she will have her euthanised. We have a qualified behaviourist who goes to the kennels and works with the dogs. We also have foster homes with many years experience where they continue with training, working alongside the behaviourist until such time as the dog is ready.

Communication is the key with any rescue especially to iron out any problems.

When walking a dog with these issues it is important not have a negative attitude as it feeds down the lead, the dog picks up on it and does exactly what you are already expecting. As many have said, this dog just needs to be put through her paces with the right person.
If she feels more comfortable handing to another rescue who will do this for the dog then I have no problem with that. I would like to know the rescues name however so that I am personally able to follow up on her wellbeing, however the OP is telling everyone different stories. I’m confused and concerned for the dog.
 
Lisa Collier said:
You have been speaking with one of our trustees and we have advised on numerous occasions that we will come and collect her. We offered to pay for spay (if required). Which from my understanding you were forwarding the quote from the vet in order for us to contact them and arrange direct payment. Tonight however the trustee contacted you after I pointed out that you wanted to hand her over to another rescue to confirm what you wanted to do in regards to all this. You replied to say you were working until ten, you had enough to deal with and didn’t have time for all this tittle tattle. You then proceeded to block the lady. How exactly is this resolving the situation? If you wish to contact myself, you can find me on Facebook via the rescues group, which you have removed yourself from, although you will still be able to find me in the members section under admin. I did also previously send you a message regarding Rolly which could possibly be in your ‘others’ mailbox on messenger.
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If you must quote, please use the entire quote, don't pick on the bits that suit you. I am fairly sure that more would have been said than this as it does not make sense.
 
Lisa Collier said:
You have been speaking with one of our trustees and we have advised on numerous occasions that we will come and collect her. We offered to pay for spay (if required). Which from my understanding you were forwarding the quote from the vet in order for us to contact them and arrange direct payment. Tonight however the trustee contacted you after I pointed out that you wanted to hand her over to another rescue to confirm what you wanted to do in regards to all this. You replied to say you were working until ten, you had enough to deal with and didn’t have time for all this tittle tattle. You then proceeded to block the lady. How exactly is this resolving the situation? If you wish to contact myself, you can find me on Facebook via the rescues group, which you have removed yourself from, although you will still be able to find me in the members section under admin. I did also previously send you a message regarding Rolly which could possibly be in your ‘others’ mailbox on messenger.
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I would be extremely careful what you write on this post as although I have put nothing that is untrue in any way on here, the statements you have made could easily be construed to be defamatory and it is not a good idea to state untrue facts about a person you do not know in a public place.
 
buzyizzy said:
I would be extremely careful what you write on this post as although I have put nothing that is untrue in any way on here, the statements you have made could easily be construed to be defamatory and it is not a good idea to state untrue facts about a person you do not know in a public place.
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The rescues door is always open to you. I don’t believe I have made any remarks that could be deemed defamatory that was certainly not my intention. I am just concerned for the dog.
 
Final Update.
I took her to the vet yesterday as charity was supposed to have arranged for her to be blood tested to see if she was in season and also check on this lump she has. When I arrived, fortunately there was no one else in the waiting room for her to attack and we went straight in. It was very apparent that they had been told nothing and I had to explain all of this. The vet said she was most definitely still a puppy and was fairly confident she has not been spayed. She could tell after she'd had a look at all her bits, poor girl. She checked her passport and agreed that the dates don't tally either. They agreed it was pointless doing the test as they were pretty damn sure she was in season and also questioned whether she's actually had her jabs. Poor show all round from the charity. Anyway, going back a bit, I took her out on Sunday and she had me over, again. I can't let go of her to stop myself from falling so I am pretty battered. My daughter who was visiting for the weekend, took her out on Monday and Tuesday for me and she agreed with me, she is far too strong and boisterous for me and not at all suitable. She felt very sorry for both of us, so we sent the charity an email before my daughter's return and the dog is being collected tomorrow. Not the ending I wanted for either of us, but I cannot keep hurting myself and also I feel very sorry for the dog as she has obviously had a **** time being passed around and the very last thing I wanted was to put her back there. Sad ending all round. My lovely sitting room carpet is beyond repair despite my best efforts to keep mopping up her spotting which I am not one bit impressed about as I shall most likely have to have it replaced or at least professionally cleaned. When we had bitches before, we did not have decent fitted carpets, and of course I didn't think I was getting a bitch that was going to come into season :mad3: :mad3:
 
Lisa Collier said:
I totally appreciate where you are coming from. Unfortunately this dog was rehomed directly from kennels and was not given time to settle in her new environment before being introduced to new things outside of her new home. Without being given time to adjust a rescues behaviour can change. All dogs are different and some cope better than others.

She was thoroughly tested with other dogs, cats etc and displayed none of the behaviour experienced by the OP. She is clearly struggling with the dogs behaviour as as told us numerous times she will have her euthanised. We have a qualified behaviourist who goes to the kennels and works with the dogs. We also have foster homes with many years experience where they continue with training, working alongside the behaviourist until such time as the dog is ready.

Communication is the key with any rescue especially to iron out any problems.

When walking a dog with these issues it is important not have a negative attitude as it feeds down the lead, the dog picks up on it and does exactly what you are already expecting. As many have said, this dog just needs to be put through her paces with the right person.
If she feels more comfortable handing to another rescue who will do this for the dog then I have no problem with that. I would like to know the rescues name however so that I am personally able to follow up on her wellbeing, however the OP is telling everyone different stories. I’m confused and concerned for the dog.
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It is not a question of my being the right or wrong person. The dog that was described to me, age, neutering, friendly, labrador size, is NOT the dog I was presented with in Newport. It is the charity's responsibility to ensure that the correct dogs and owners are matched up, as several charities have told me. And you do not have a qualified behaviourist although of course in your eyes he/she may be, but there are extensive qualifications needed before anyone can be permitted on the accredited list. I would also point out that the only reason she is having to go back to you is that the others are full and it has become more urgent. When my home check was done, I was completely honest and told the girl everything about my home life. This was obviously not relayed to anyone when I went to the kennels, or you would have known she was completely unsuitable. I don't believe you are really concerned about her welfare, you want to know if anyone else is making derogatory comments about your charity. Well I think that particular ship has sailed from what I hear.
 
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