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I'm feeling a bit naughty today ....
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If you are buying / selling / loaning a competition horse would you be offended if a potential buyer / loaner went and researched your horse, or even just someone browsing the internet who came across the advert and was interested?
 
I think one of the things I always do when buying a horse is research as much as you can before going to see it..

eg. phone up - speak to them - get full registered name. Check up on any records you can eg. BE placings...

I would anyway
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So I wouldn't be offended if others did that when I was selling a horse
 
I always research BSJA, BE and word of mouth. I have not got time and money to throw away by buying something that is not what I want.
 
No. In fact I would expect it to happen, so much so that if I did not want people to do that then I would use stable names and not mention any competition history. That often happens when people are advertising horses which need a quieter life in my experience.
 
If I were selling/loaning out, I would expect people to research - some might only look at the comp. record, but I wouldn't be bothered by a spot of Googling - would be awfully hypocritical of me if I did.

If someone is selling/loaning a comp. horse, they need to be prepared for people to find out how good a comp. horse it is!!
 
I think AmeliaMoose didn't think that people had the right to investigate a horse she had advertised on a public website
 
No. IMO if you're selling something as a competition horse then you should be able to provide evidence of results, and be happy for people to look at them. That sort of information isn't private (as far as I'm aware) so I would have no problem with people accessing it.

If the horse is as good as the seller says then surely the results should only serve to support the claims?
 
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No, I completely agree.
And the bigger the claims you make in an advert, the more people will look into them IMO

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yes... because if it says 'competed 5 PN's - always placed' - I'm def going to check up on that... am less likely to check up if they say the horse has schooled xc...
 
i don't see how you can stop it............ if your horse has a competetion record and you advertise with that record, how can you stop people finding out information, that is in the public domain...... and i would expect folk to search................. eps if buying..... or loan etc...

So either people are more selective with infomation they download onto internet or they have to have their eyes opened a bit more, that people will research a horse competetion record, but that's my opinion..........
 
Slightly off the point of what you all seem to be referring to, but Lec will know: You know Exmoor Eventing went through a phase of changing competition horses' names - explain to me what that acheives? People are still going to dig up records, (after all if the horse only starts having results at Intermediate level it has definately done other competitions elsewhere hasn't it?!), and to me the fact that you hgave gone to hassle and expense of changing it is more suspicious than anything! Looks like a cover-up, and I think at those sorts of prices people will do their homework.
 
we are just about to advertise a horse for sale..and with the flat market I have been hearing about I will be only too pleased if someone is interested enough to ring up and do a bit of digging re ancestors or form.!

Ali
 
As a seller aren't u supppose to tell them as much as possible about the horse?? Or is that where i go wrong??!!
If I was going to spend money on a "proven competition horse" i'd want to know as much as possible before hand, especially if the price was large!!
 
Even for a Pony Club pony, I did my bit of researching. It is amazing what you can find with a bit of Googling! One pony's cross country record was rather at odds with the owner's account of it!
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Haven't seen the other thread(s?) and just don't understand the question tbh. Of course not - if I were buying I'd bust a gut to find out as much as poss and would expect any buyer to do the same
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Obviously it is easier said than done with some disciplines though - BE is very easy, and FEI results with a bit of legwork (for a foreign horse for example), BD aren't so quick, and the BSJA ask for money to see a horse's print out which I am always loath to part with! I'm not normally in the market for proven competition horses though. When I advertised Liberty I headed the advert with his competition name as it is always the first thing people ask when ringing up, and his blip-free record was the justificaion for what looked like a high price.
 
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If you are buying / selling / loaning a competition horse would you be offended if a potential buyer / loaner went and researched your horse, or even just someone browsing the internet who came across the advert and was interested?

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Certainly not... Before I went to view Ali I looked up his competition records.
 
i always do as much research as possible, it's the sensible thing to do. i wouldn't be offended at all... although sometimes the results don't tell the whole story.
for instance there's lots of withdrawals on my horses' records, but that's because i won't run them xc on the hard, not because they were unsound. ditto, two were withdrawn from about 4 events at the start of 1 season cos they got a really nasty virus, but it looked as if they had soundness issues to the uninitiated...
it's amazing how many people don't seem to know about the BE website though... they make all sorts of claims and when you check up, it's nothing like.
friend went to see a horse which was supposed to be Advanced, turned out it had done a couple of Novices...
 
Not only would I look for records I would phone up people all around the country to try and find out about the horse. Even if I didn't know the person I was ringing personally.

My mum is an ex PC secy and we used to get loads of phone calls asking about ponies in our PC but also because we did a lot of competeting, about ponies in other branches as well.

In fact we heard about Glen (the best horse ever) only because we rang a friend of a friend about another horse and she see said 'don't bother to see that horse I know of a horse which is not being advertised but would be perfect' It was the best phone call my parents ever made.

So you never know a bit of investigating can even get you a better horse!
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Of course I would not be offended.
I have nothing to hide about my horses and will always tell a prospective buyer everything, purely for the sake of the horse.
 
kerilli - not aimed at you

i now getting confused by this thread, can anyone enlighten me, without breaking rules, if threads have gone missing???

cos were all say samethings.........

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IMO anyone with half a brain would check competition records and admittedly, they may not tell the whole story but that is up to the owner.

You've got to be on another planet if you think prospective purchasers/loanees aren't going to do their homework, particularly when it is so easy!
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I always research infact when buying Dexter I even called the lady that had evented him b4, I had to as she had done the most with him
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