Advice appreciated - Confidence gone

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I reckon a bit of context is needed but where to start, please be gentle but I am fully open to constructive criticism.
Fell free to share your confidence loss stories in the comments as well :)

I have been riding and handling horses for as long as I can remember, used to go out for hacks or ranching with my family and got more serious about it around age 6-7.
Joined a Pony Club, learnt all the basics, had my grandmother guide me and would read and learn off the saddle in my free time as well.
I had always ridden loaned horses or my grandmothers, being in school and nothaving the space in the city just didn´t mix too well.
Then, my grandma´s Holstein mare had the loveliest of foals, Chiara, and she was my heart horse.
As soon as she was weaned I´d get her used to my presence, play with her, pet her, scratch her and desensitize her to loud noises, randomly moving objects and overall basic handling.
She grew up to be the sweetest, albeit a tad lazy, gentle giant at 16.4hh a girl could dream of.
Initially I´d thought she´d make a good Jumper but she´d run through the poles instead of jump over them.
She did however become a fantastic Dressage horse, fluid movements, very patient and super sweet.
Overall, just good things with this big mare.
Since I was finishing high school a friend of mine offered and really excelled at keeping Chiara happy while I was away, she advanced her training, moved her about 3-4 times a week and did great with her too.
Around 2017 I had to move abroad for Uni, so my friend continued caring for her.
In 2019, my grandmother decided it was time for an offspring, so just a break until I was fully back from Uni again.
Chiara had a lovely little Holsteiner mare named Bianca and I had my return scheduled for early 2023 to fully enjoy both of them.

Sadly that´s where it goes downhill.
In 2021 Bianca had an accident with some barbed wire and succumbed to her injuries, I never met her and cried for several days.
Then just a year later, in September, I had the most depressing news of my life as my grandmother told that Chiara had suffered a bad colic with no way of recovering.
She suffered for 3 days, bless the vet doing his very best to save her but ultimately failing, and she passed away at home.
I was (and still am) inconsolable for the better part of autumn and winter that year, never wishing to set foot on the family ranch again.
I miss my mare dearly, it hurts that I wasn´t there for either of my horses passing and even more so considering both accidents could have been fully avoided if I´d been there to monitor both filly and mum. I blame myself a lot over what happened, even if it wasn´t.

Fast forward to July 2023, finally back on the ranch and missing riding a lot. My gran keeps some ponies but all are enjoying their retirement.
I´d always wanted to live on my grans ranch and help her, so I also had that in mind while looking.
I have ridden a lot of different breeds of horses, all types of temperaments and sizes as well. I´ve handled both hot-blooded horses and warmbloods, different ages too.
So I felt pretty prepared in owning a horse again and sharing her in my absence with my friend who still rides at our country club.
All that logic flew out the window when I saw a 2yr old, dark bay Arab filly (halter line, great pedigree, wonderful conformation) named Grace.
I reckon that was my biggest mistake.
Instead of looking at several horses, I only focused on this one Arab who was the same color as my Holsteiner.
She is spectacular in every sense of the word, witty, fun, cuddly and a joy to be around.
I tried her
So instead of being sensible, I went ahead and bought her.
She had been started under saddle, mostly for ranch work like cutting and reining. Very different riding style from what I was used to, but I was partial to finding a horse I could round cattle with.
Because she´d been worked quite hard during the winter, she was a bit underweight and I held off on riding her until she was healthier.

On our very first ride, the saddle didn´t fit her correctly and the bridle was too big on her. We went for a nice walk and then trot, a bit wobbly but I managed. Mind you the last time I´d ridden a horse was in September 2019 when I´d visited home for a short trip.
I tested the waters with cantering a few strides but began leaning far too much toward her neck and slid right off.
I´ve fallen off horses multiple times so no biggie there.
However, Grace spooked and galloped over me, one of her hooves digging into the small of back, full weight, and knocking all the wind out of my lungs.
Thanks to the jumping vest I didn´t land in the hospital, just a terrible bruise and nasty headache from hitting my face against the ground.
As soon as she stopped galopping, I got up and walked calmly toward her, adjusted the saddle, checked her for injuries and got up again.
No canter this time, just a slow walk and a short trot to end things on a positive note.
Since then, I´ve only ridden her thrice again, different saddle and bridle, but it still is too large on her.

She is almost only out in pasture at the moment.
I´d groom her regularly, cuddle with her and I reckon that´s where I simply fell short.
She has begun questioning where I stand in regards to her, yesterday and today trying to bite me as soon as I take her out of her box and then kick when I want to groom her while she is feeding.
I have never in my 27 years of life had a horse turn nasty on me ever. Not my grandmas spicy Trakehner, not any problem horses I´ve ridden or had to calm down, none of them had this turn in attitude.
I did not sleep tonight as I was riddled with anxiety, and every time I thought of Grace or how I could approach her (like I used to last week), my heart would speed up and I´d spiral.
I´m paralyzed by the fear of not being good enough for her, of not being able to give her the training she needs nor the time and love.
I adore her and want only the best for her. I have the option to send her for more training to the friend I purchased her from since he had a great bond with her.
What I fear though is that even after she comes back from training, I still won´t have proper tack that fits her nor live on the ranch to dedicate my time fully to Grace.

I apologize for the near-biblical text, it is without a doubt incredibly depressing to write this but I feel that if I do not rehome her, she won´t be happy and fully unleash her potential.
She needs guidance, and so do I now. I have never felt scared of horses or handling them, but I´m terrified of ruining her :(
I´ve already set to start riding lessons again in April to build up my confidence again as well as been working on my fitness too.
Any tips and additional ways to help build confidence again would be super appreciated.

Hope everyone is having a great Monday and enjoying themselves ❤️

TLDR: Outhorsed and scared to fail a young Arabian mare full of potential, advice?
 

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Just to clarify are you riding a 2 year old?

As for kicking while feeding, some horses want to be left alone while eating. One of mine I can groom etc when she has her bucket feed. The other one I put down her bucket and leave her to eat her feed. I will take off rugs and fuss once she’s finished or she too might show aggressive behaviour.

Some riding lessons would definitely help get your riding fitness back up to scratch.
 

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Hi Ladygreytea. Firstly, things will get better. I’m quite sure your filly isn’t judging you and finding you wanting. That is all in your head and I think everyone on here has gone through similar emotions at some stage. Good on you for recognising you are not fit enough to ride and working on that. Also, I applaud you for booking lessons which I’m sure will boost your confidence if you and the instructor are a good fit. If lessons leave you feeling downhearted and inadequate get another instructor that is more in tune with you and your needs. If your filly is two years old that is too young to ride especially in tack that doesn’t fit her. Perhaps concentrate on groundwork instead. Make it fun for both of you and it will strengthen and cement your relationship. Save up for the tack she needs in the meantime. If she doesn’t like being groomed whilst she is feeding can you not groom her beforehand and then leave her alone to eat? If you’re feeling low talk to us. Some of us will give you a kind, listening ear and some of us will give you a metaphorical shake but it is always meant well. ❤️
 

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Please don't ride the filly anymore if she is 2 it's too young.

I have Arab's and they are very sensitive they like everything to be just so and will happily let you know when it's not in my experience.

I would just concentrate on building her trust on the ground for now until she grows up a bit, then make sure any tack your using actually fits.
 

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I am very confused about why you rode her in tack that does not fit and why you are saying that you only have tack that does not fit available. Why can't you get tack that fits?

In the UK we do not ride 2 year olds, with the exception of flat racers which most people disagree with anyway. You won't find any support for riding a two year old on this forum. Please turn her away until she is 3, or given her early start, preferably 4.
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Sell this Arab, have some lessons to get your confidence back and then buy yourself an older, established ridden horse who already knows its job. Make sure you have sufficient budget to also buy well fitting tack.

Horses are meant to be fun and you are clearly not having fun with this filly.
 

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I miss my mare dearly, it hurts that I wasn´t there for either of my horses passing and even more so considering both accidents could have been fully avoided if I´d been there to monitor both filly and mum. I blame myself a lot over what happened, even if it wasn´t.


Colic isn’t an accident. This reads like you are blaming your grandmother for the colic. Unless you know she mismanaged the horses, neither of you is to blame for it and there's no reason to believe that you being there would have made any difference.
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Please don't ride the filly anymore if she is 2 it's too young.

I have Arab's and they are very sensitive they like everything to be just so and will happily let you know when it's not in my experience.

I would just concentrate on building her trust on the ground for now until she grows up a bit, then make sure any tack your using actually fits.
She is currently 3, will be 4 in October (I believe I forgot to mention that)
I didn't agree with the breeder I bought her from since her spine is still developing and needs ground training and basics
Because of the whole tack issue as well, I have not ridden her either
I've tried making it very clear that it would be detrimental to her development as the spine is one of the last bodyparts to fully mature
 

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Take a step back. Let your Arab grow for another year or so, and save up for properly fitting tack. Don't try riding until she has matured and you know that the tack you use won't cause her discomfort. Spend the time in between doing groundwork to build your trust in each other, maybe have some groundwork lessons too?
 

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I'm not clear where in your history you did the dressage at intermediate and advanced level that you've mentioned on another thread?
Between the years 2013-2016 I had classes with a great private dressage instructor, twice a week. When I didn't have classes I'd practice what we'd gone through with a friend (she'd ride my Holsteiner)
It definitely feels weird and a bit frustrating to now be back at novice level though such a long break
 

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I am very confused about why you rode her in tack that does not fit and why you are saying that you only have tack that does not fit available. Why can't you get tack that fits?

In the UK we do not ride 2 year olds, with the exception of flat racers which most people disagree with anyway. You won't find any support for riding a two year old on this forum. Please turn her away until she is 3, or given her early start, preferably 4.
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I have never had a horse as small or athletic as an Arab
I think the closest to her build was my grandmothers OTTB, but she was 15hh and still much larger
Conversely, all the tack both me and my grandmother own is quite big and fits warmbloods perfectly
Especially the bits, even the smallest eggbutt bit I have is 12", and too large :(
 

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Colic isn’t an accident. This reads like you are blaming your grandmother for the colic. Unless you know she mismanaged the horses, neither of you is to blame for it and there's no reason to believe that you being there would have made any difference.
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I blame myself more than her. However, she does not go out of the house much, it is her groom who takes care of the horses.
I forgot to mention Chiara was also a crib biter, Trakehner does it too but to a lesser degree.
I think Bianca could still be around and kicking if the barbed wire hadnt been laying around in the field, I check the paddocks every morning for larger rocks and wood or big branches and clean them up
 

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Take a step back. Let your Arab grow for another year or so, and save up for properly fitting tack. Don't try riding until she has matured and you know that the tack you use won't cause her discomfort. Spend the time in between doing groundwork to build your trust in each other, maybe have some groundwork lessons too?
Have definitely looked into groundwork trainers but they are sadly really uncommon here, the closest I know is 3 hrs away but I'd definitely give it a go regardless of distance
 

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She has begun questioning where I stand in regards to her, yesterday and today trying to bite me as soon as I take her out of her box and then kick when I want to groom her while she is feeding.
I'm putting this here not because I believe a single word of this epic but because someone else might wander by and think it's OK to groom your horse at mealtimes. It's not. If you like being groomed while you are enjoying a meal then fine but most people don't so have some respect for the horse
 

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July 2023, I saw a 2yr old, dark bay Arab filly (halter line, great pedigree, wonderful conformation) named Grace.

She had been started under saddle, mostly for ranch work like cutting and reining.
Because she´d been worked quite hard during the winter, she was a bit underweight
This reads that she was worked hard on a ranch at 18 months old ??
 

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Turn the mare out for another 2 years and focus on lessons. I don’t care where in the world you are and what’s “normal” there, it’s not normal to ride a horse that’s still a baby.
Fully agreed, lesson learned and it's not fair to her either to interrupt her development
The friend I bought her from did ranching with her (she was 2 and a couple months at the time) which I found odd considering she was so young, he rides Quarabs, Arabs and AQHs. His current mount is a Quarab of about the same age as Grace
I feel stupid for not questioning myself though, and it's appreciated to have the perspective of others on the situation as well
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I'm putting this here not because I believe a single word of this epic but because someone else might wander by and think it's OK to groom your horse at mealtimes. It's not. If you like being groomed while you are enjoying a meal then fine but most people don't so have some respect for the horse
Okay, thank you for mentioning this
I will refrain from doing so from now on
 

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This reads that she was worked hard on a ranch at 18 months old ??
Not 18 months, she was started at about 26-27 months
It's still too early though and in hindsight, I should have not tried to ride her either but give her a long break to grow and develop instead
She is in said break now but regardless, I was incredibly stupid
 

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now that’s established you can focus on your own thoughts. As already said the things that happened to your previous mares were complete accidents. Even with the best care things can happen to horses and it isn’t anyone’s fault. You’ll get your confidence back with a steady lesson horse and in time the memory of being afraid of grace will fade, and with some ground work in a year or so then a total rebreaking (get a professional involved don’t just throw a saddle on and hope she remembers herself) you’ll be grand.

Also also, photos?!? She sounds beautiful.
 

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Hi Ladygreytea. Firstly, things will get better. I’m quite sure your filly isn’t judging you and finding you wanting. That is all in your head and I think everyone on here has gone through similar emotions at some stage. Good on you for recognising you are not fit enough to ride and working on that. Also, I applaud you for booking lessons which I’m sure will boost your confidence if you and the instructor are a good fit. If lessons leave you feeling downhearted and inadequate get another instructor that is more in tune with you and your needs. If your filly is two years old that is too young to ride especially in tack that doesn’t fit her. Perhaps concentrate on groundwork instead. Make it fun for both of you and it will strengthen and cement your relationship. Save up for the tack she needs in the meantime. If she doesn’t like being groomed whilst she is feeding can you not groom her beforehand and then leave her alone to eat? If you’re feeling low talk to us. Some of us will give you a kind, listening ear and some of us will give you a metaphorical shake but it is always meant well. ❤️
Thank you for the kind words and encouragement, I have foregone grooming her in the evenings before being turned in
All advice is appreciated, no matter how harsh it comes of
My priority is making sure Grace gets what she needs
If I cannot provide that I accept that and will look for a home that is better suited for her too
 

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Thank you for the advice :)
And that was my mistake I'll correct that
The bits are 5" or 5.5", so 12-13cm
Don't be fooled some Arab's have wide mouths my 2 are in 5.5 inch bits and are only 15h and 15.3 although they are of a substantial build.

Your filly is so young she will still be slightly built so most tack is going to be huge.

If she is cribbing she needs to be out more especially as she is so young.

If your really struggling with confidence around this horse and not providing what she needs why don't you sell her, you can then buy something older that you can ride and get your confidence back.
 

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Not 18 months, she was started at about 26-27 months
It's still too early though and in hindsight, I should have not tried to ride her either but give her a long break to grow and develop instead
She is in said break now but regardless, I was incredibly stupid
I apologise for the misunderstanding. I just realised where you are! In the Southern hemisphere.
So when you first met her it was winter and she was what we would call "rising 3".
Now she is rising 4

Regards handling her. Was she at a big ranch where they start many horses & don't treat them as pets?

I had a mare who started life as a team chaser & then was a hunt hireling on a big yard. She had been treated kindly but with professional detachment . To her life's end she never came to understand or enjoy cuddles, stroking etc. She would wicker at me when I arrived & seemed to like being near me but she was only ever ok with "needful handling", like grooming & tacking up & she liked a fixed routine so she knew when those things would happen. When she was put in the stable to eat they walked away because they were busy & that's what she was used to.

Your girl is much younger & can get used to being a pet but take it easy with her & let her have a lot of her own space while she gets used to her new life.
 
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