Advice ... mouldy old frogs!

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My 25 year old PBA gelding is suffering from what is in effect foot rot of the frogs, due to the sodding wet weather. Farrier has been out and cut back all the nasty smelly bits from his frogs, leaving him very sore (the pony not the farrier! LOL!). I have him stabled (although we are lucky as barely any mud as on top of a hill and very well drained), he is on a deep bed of dry straw, I am cleaning his feet twice a day with warm salt water and purple spray.

Anybody got any tips to help?

I know that peroxide will kill the thrush, but his frogs are too sore to apply anything like that at the moment, don't even want to use the foot dressing that I have in stock from the vet! Looking for a more gentle approach as Mate is not good with pain (he is a notorious wimp!) plus he is an old man at the end of the day, and my very precious friend as I have had him from the moment his feet touched the floor!!!
 
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Sudocreme ... what a stroke of genius! I will get some and try it.

It is bloody heartbreaking to see him waddling about .. it looks like a cross between laminitis and drunkeness! and I know it isn't lami and as far as I know he is tee total (although he is partial to sweet tea!)

What is Pete's goo????
 
Would he stand with his foot in a bucket of warm salty water? That shouldn't be too painful but should help clear the infection.
I like the sheep foot spray (seems to work better on mine than any of the horse stuff), I don't think it stings (my boy doesn't seem to mind) but I've not personally tried it!!!

If it's that sore maybe a bute is in order?
 
I'd put him onto a shavings bed, which will keep his frogs drier than straw can and spray with tea-tree oil. Equimins (Ithink) do one with lavender which should be soothing. Pets at Home do a tea-tree and lavender oil for dogs if you need some today.
I wouldn't use Sudocrem as that will keep the frogs soft.
 
Vanner said:
Sudocreme ... what a stroke of genius! I will get some and try it.

It is bloody heartbreaking to see him waddling about .. it looks like a cross between laminitis and drunkeness! and I know it isn't lami and as far as I know he is tee total (although he is partial to sweet tea!)

What is Pete's goo????
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It's just a 50/50 mix of antibacterial cream and canestan. You can rub it on or use a syringe. I popped up a link for you :)
 
shavings bed will dry it all out faster than straw,

a couple of people i know have used dilute sterilising fluid they just syringe or sponge it over the sole and frog they say its good at drying the feet out and killing off bad bacteria-i have not tried it myself but someone on here must have.

apart from that pick out the feet at least twice daily and keep bedding clean and dry
 
Thanks so much, guys, got some good ideas to try.

Can see what you mean about sudocreme, but then surely the salty water and purple spray will also be keeping his frogs wet?

I am off to google Pete's Goo as that sounds like just the sort of stuff that I should have in my horses first aid kit!

Hopefully, the old fella will come round soon. I hope so anyway, I am firmly blaming this bloody endless wet weather .... and I am keeping a beady eye on my other 2 horses feet, just in case!
 
sheep foot rot purple spray, from an agriculture store not the stuff from a tack shop, i use this routine once a week and it prevented the same problem i had in oldie i use to have works well and is cheap
 
Polos Mum said:
Would he stand with his foot in a bucket of warm salty water? That shouldn't be too painful but should help clear the infection.
I like the sheep foot spray (seems to work better on mine than any of the horse stuff), I don't think it stings (my boy doesn't seem to mind) but I've not personally tried it!!!

If it's that sore maybe a bute is in order?
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I used the sheep spray on my mare a couple of years ago and it worked a treat.
 
I've had a problem with my welsh cobs feet, very deep and disappearing crevices in three frogs, I have mixed a squirty bottle of water and purple spray up to get right into the crevice and used a kitchen scrubby pan brush with a long handle to scrub out the dirt etc, dried thoroughly with paper then sprayed with Septi Cleanse antibacterial aerosol can from Nettex. (has a tiny thin nozzle so can get in all the cracks and is rapid drying). Doing this twice daily and seeing a real difference.
 
I found red horse products amazing, gentle, natural and they work over time. My old mare's frogs had pretty much disappeared I started a regime of daily hibiscrub, red horse sole cleanse and field paste, I was amazed at the results, once all back and under control care is now just field paste once a week and no problems.

Problem with things strong like peroxide is firstly it hurts if sore but it will also kill god healthy tissue leaving stuff for the infection to feed on again and so return , it often isn't a long term solution and the issue keeps reoccurring
http://www.redhorseproducts.com/Hoof_Care
 
I'd definitely put him on shavings rather than straw. To shift all traces, terramycin spray from the vet, then for ongoing prevention, Red Horse Field Paste is unbeatable. Sprinkle a bit of wound powder into all the nooks and crannies in the evening to dry the frogs out then apply the treatment when they're dry in the morning. Good luck!

(PS IMHO purple spray is pretty useless for bad cases)
 
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