advice needed white line disease?

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Hi everyone just wondering if anyone can give me some advice. had farrier today as my boy lost a shoe. farrier said he has white line disease in his two front hooves and sold me some ointment to put on once a day.

Is there anything else I can do to help clear it up? my boys two front hooves (hes only shod on front) are a right mess :( farrier is fantastic cant speak highly enough of him and did his best to get shoe back on and take some of the rotten hoof off.

Sorry if this is a daft question just never dealt with it before. thank you in advance :)
 
There will be an underlying cause, is it all round or just at the toe, as in seedy toe?
If all the way round it is often caused by stretching of the laminae due to long toes, incorrect hoof care or dietary issues.

Diet may need addressing, regular trimming and reshoeing, you cannot really treat the white line when the horse has shoes on as it is covered by the shoe so I am not sure what the ointment will be able to do as it will not go on the problem area.
 
hi, we have had a couple with this and seedy toe. One we no longer have but the other is fed a supplement called Seaquim as well as having his feet cleaned and spray with tyramisin or however you spell it. You can pick it up from your vets, our farrier advised this as he said purple spray does nothing except make everything purple.
He regularly see's the horse and at the moment he is doing well.
We bring the horse in if the ground is wet and muddy so that it doesnt get in and cause more damage but he is mostly out at the moment.
 
Kadastorm said:
hi, we have had a couple with this and seedy toe. One we no longer have but the other is fed a supplement called Seaquim as well as having his feet cleaned and spray with tyramisin or however you spell it. You can pick it up from your vets, our farrier advised this as he said purple spray does nothing except make everything purple.
He regularly see's the horse and at the moment he is doing well.
We bring the horse in if the ground is wet and muddy so that it doesnt get in and cause more damage but he is mostly out at the moment.
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thank you for replying. my farrier sold me some stuff cant remember name though but stinks lol. he said to clean the hooves and apply everyday he said its the best stuff he has found that clears it up. this may sound stupid but i forgot to ask farrier are we still ok to ride them? hes not lame and is very forward and happy in himself still.

the farrier left his shoe on because he said the shoe helps to stop dirt from going up into the hoof (which is backed up by what i have googled). i trust my farrier a million percent and trust his word. he has brought my horse around from being a quivering wreck and trying to kill him to a horse that falls asleep when being shod. my farrier is fab!! :D
 
I used anti-bac using a toothbrush to get it in to the seedy toe.

I continued to ride my horse without adverse effects. It was cleaning up well by the time farrier next came and the weather when she got it , fields were wet and muddy. I try to bring ponies in to let their hooves dry off once a day if fields are bad :)
 
If you have a hoof problem, you may need to look at the diet to improve things long term, the barefooters always go down this route for problem horses.
If the hoof quality is generally good, and he is already getting minerals and vitamins in his feed then I suggest you could try Laminator [Equimins] which is currently half price. This should be enough for six weeks and you can re-assess the situation. Perhaps you should ask Equimins for their advice as they have several products which might be better, as they also do a hoof repair supplement.
I have had my boy [barefoot] on Laminator for four weeks, and the hooves are definitely more rock crunching and concave than before, so I may have found the "missing ingredient"
 
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Cleantrax is fab stuff. Bit of a faff and u would have to have his shoes removed to do it http://www.equinepodiatrysupplies.co.uk/Hoof-Treatments/CleanTrax

Milton disinfectant works for milder cases. You can buy it in the baby section of most supermarkets (it's used to disinfect bottles). Again, Im not sure how the shoes would interfere.

And like everybody else has said, diet probably needs sorting. Good luck.
 
Miss L Toe said:
If you have a hoof problem, you may need to look at the diet to improve things long term, the barefooters always go down this route for problem horses.
If the hoof quality is generally good, and he is already getting minerals and vitamins in his feed then I suggest you could try Laminator [Equimins] which is currently half price. This should be enough for six weeks and you can re-assess the situation. Perhaps you should ask Equimins for their advice as they have several products which might be better, as they also do a hoof repair supplement.
I have had my boy [barefoot] on Laminator for four weeks, and the hooves are definitely more rock crunching and concave than before, so I may have found the "missing ingredient"
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have you got a link for where i could buy it please? :)
 
itsonlyme said:
Cleantrax is fab stuff. Bit of a faff and u would have to have his shoes removed to do it http://www.equinepodiatrysupplies.co.uk/Hoof-Treatments/CleanTrax

Milton disinfectant works for milder cases. You can buy it in the baby section of most supermarkets (it's used to disinfect bottles). Again, Im not sure how the shoes would interfere.

And like everybody else has said, diet probably needs sorting. Good luck.
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i have some milton so will give that a try. he only has a haynet at night and a scoop of 16 plus (hes 21) and thats it. we have a nutritionist out once a year and she said hes doing really well on this diet even over winter he never lost an once of weight lol. but i could try some supplements as dont really want to change his diet too much as took me a long time to find a food that kept him level headed and not turn him into a nutter lol
 
Neat hibiscrub once a day did it for me. All over the bottom of the hoof and into all the holes round the hoof so that it can drip down (I used a tiny syringe initially to do this) you also need to change their environment. My mare had been turned out over the summer and it had turned pretty wet underfoot when she got it so she was stabled apart from a couple of hours a day. The bedding needs to be kept nice and clean and dry. She was already on Topspec which has foot supplements so I didn't feed her anything on top of this. The turnaround was pretty dramatic. We could barely nail a shoe on her and within a couple of months she could keep her shoes on for 4-5 weeks and she can now go 7 weeks between shoeing.
 
Vanha12 said:
Neat hibiscrub once a day did it for me. All over the bottom of the hoof and into all the holes round the hoof so that it can drip down (I used a tiny syringe initially to do this) you also need to change their environment. My mare had been turned out over the summer and it had turned pretty wet underfoot when she got it so she was stabled apart from a couple of hours a day. The bedding needs to be kept nice and clean and dry. She was already on Topspec which has foot supplements so I didn't feed her anything on top of this. The turnaround was pretty dramatic. We could barely nail a shoe on her and within a couple of months she could keep her shoes on for 4-5 weeks and she can now go 7 weeks between shoeing.
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i cant really keep him stabled more than he is as he gets too stressed unless his stable mate is in next to him. the fields are pretty dry tbh. the farrier said it could be because it was loads of rain then all the hot sun he said he has seen more cases over the past week than he has in a year :( will go to tack shop now n stock up on some hibi scrub (need some anyway lol) :)
 
OP - yeah we still ride them as long as they are sound and will not hack on hard ground. The horse we have is only 4 and he got so depressed and angry when he had to be stabled all the time so he his only in when the weather is bad. Our farrier is also brilliant with him as he isn't the most patient horse :)
 
The white line is the bottom of the laminae. It should be tight and as thin as a credit card. When it stretches it becomes weak and open to pathogens.

A weak WL is indicative of a weak laminae.

This is a diet warning flag. Being shod also means the horse is bearing all his weight on that weaker laminae connection.

You will be hard pressed to find tight WL at this time of year, with the grass as it is. But you can help the hoof by taking pressures off. Such as dropping molassed or conditioning feeds, feeding balanced minerals and upping the exercise.
Pro Balance + (available from eBay) is the cheapest way of feeding the minerals.

Lotions and potions will only help as much as they can reach infection (difficult with a shoe on) but you need to seal the gap in the first place and that means making the hoof more healthy in general.
 
Second everything said already. My late girl came back from loan with the most appalling feet, including white line disease which took alot of work but it came right, I tried all sorts along with a good farrier and the thing that really helped her feet turn the corner was magnesium, cheap as anything, can get it off ebay but it was marvellous stuff, might be worth a try
 
thank you all soo much for your replies really appreciate it. he used to be on magnesium but as a calmer. will get some more in if it will help. thank you all sooooooo much nice to have some positive suggestions thought i would of been shot down for not knowing anything about it lol so thank you again :D
 
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