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Munchkinfairy

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Hi, I am new on here, and was hoping for some advice on the dreaded Laminitis.
My story, so far:
My mare, a 16.3 Dutch Warmblood is now about 22. She was just doing basic schooling and being hacked out, nothing too strenuous. About 2 1/2 months back she suddenly developed a crab like walk and stand, so her bum and back legs were not in line with the rest of her and she was twisting her rear left hand leg walking. It was so bad by the time the vet came, we thought she would fall over. The vet said it was possible it was either a fractured pelvis or torn ligaments, and could have been done by falling over. She was out on full box rest and put on Danillon (which lasted 2 days). She is kept out most of the time, so unfortunately she went rather mad in her stable, so we had to leave the door open and tape off a small pen so she could come out and see her friends, and she was put on ACP. A couple of weeks later we called the vet out again as she was showing signs of laminitis in the good leg, which was taking all the weight off the bad side. She was lifting her foot up and standing with it far forward. The vet that arrived was a different one from the one I had asked for, which did not help, as she said she would have like to have seen her when she was first showing an injury, hence the reason I asked for the original vet!! Anyway, there was some laminitis and she said full box rest, with a deeper bed. We explained that she could not be locked up, as previously when we tried this she had got so stressed she had a touch of colic (forgot to mention that earlier), but she said, no, full box rest and upped the does of ACP. We did as we were told, and the next morning she was wet through, she had worn her neck down to the flesh with weaving, had torn the bad rear shoe off and was completely stressed out. It was so bad, and dangerous for us, we had to walk her down to the other horses and turn her out to get her to calm down. By the evening we took her back in and kept the door open, and penned the small area off again. We called the farrier to mention the laminitis, which is due to all the weight on it, and he came the next day to fit pads and wanted to know why the vet had not recommended it. Anyway, fast forward a few more weeks, farrier back out - there is bad rotation. Another pad is put on. Another couple of weeks and the original vet is back out, and is impressed by the original injury - back to normal, and the Physio that accompanied the vet is impressed too, so they think it was probably not a fractured pelvis after all. The vet checked the laminitis after speaking with the farrier and said yes it was pretty bad, but not he end of the world. She did not want to take x-rays as she knows it has already rotated pretty badly, but admitted she should not be walking, let alone wanting to stand on her leg with it this bad, so was a bit puzzled.
My question is the vet says it is not the end of the world and has seen worse cases where a horse has returned to being ridden. My farrier says she wil never be ridden again with rotation like this. I don't know what to think - has anyone else heard of horses being ridden again once they have suffered bad rotation? I don't know who's word to take, and I know whatever advice I get, it is still a long way off yet being anywhere close to even going on a lunge. Any advice would be great, thanks for reading all of this!
 
Google Robert Eustace. He is the whizz on laminitis. He did a lecture for us, cannot find the magazine report now.
He has a website and phone line. All the help/advice you could ever want. Even vets and farriers attended our lecture. Cannot remember the website at the mo but you will find it through his name.
 
Thanks. I called a help line, and they advised sticking with the vets advice at the moment, so I will remain positive until told otherwise by them.
 
Yes I have known a horse with massive rotation of the pedal bone come completely sound again. I dont think its out of the question for yours to do so as well. My mare (a few years ago) rolled and got stuck under the post and rail fencing (are horses stupid or what?? It was a 4 acre field so why did the silly old bat roll under the fence??). Anyhow she was there for, we think, several hours before she was found and came down with stress related laminitis. Very badly. I was leading her to the menage so she could have a little tiny bit of freedom and although it was only 10 paces away it took 1/2 hour to get there. It went on for maybe 6 weeks and her pedal bone was badly rotated. She had pads on etc etc etc. Anyway to cut a long story short she came completely sound in the end and didnt get it ever again (although I was warned to not let her stuff herself on oodles of grass ever again which was a total pain). Hope it all goes well with your horse, good luck!
 
Thanks Oldmare, you have filled me with hope!
I am not sure if it a good thing or not that she can stand well, walk and trot (the vet wanted to see if she could do this for the original injury), and thinks she must have a very high pain threshold, as I explained earlier, the vet said most horses would be struggling to stand. I can only see this as positive at the moment, but I will let you know how she goes over the next few weeks. Thanks again.
 
Sorry - but I haven't quite understood your post. Was the laminitis in the front foot of the bad side? Have the front feet been xrayed. A vet and farrier can guess that the pedal bones have rotated, but without xrays they cannot tell the degree of rotation and therefore the best remedial shoeing. In my case, my pony came down with acute laminitis 2 and a half years ago for no apparent reason (he was then diagnosed with Cushings and is on medication). He was so bad, that he couldn't walk across his box to get to his water bucket. He was on box rest for 10 weeks on rubber matting on a deep shavings bed - it really is important that the horse doesn't walk about much, but in your mare's case this is obviously difficult. Xrays showed that my chap had pedal bone rotation and that pads actually caused more pressure and weren't any good. The thing that actually saved him was having imprint shoes fitted. website here and he still has them now. His rotation has not deteriorated and he is completely sound and has not suffered from laminitis again. If you had seen how bad he was - you would never have thought that he would recover. In fact, it was my brilliant vet who told us to keep going as I thought we were being immensely cruel. So there is hope!
 
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