Advice please for our young ISH

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We have been having an issue with our new 15hh ISH.

He seems to trip ocasionally when trotting both when hacking and when being schooled(although less often).

Background.

Now at 4yo He still has some growing to do we think as he is bum high so we have pretty much put it down to him being young and finding his feet. I'm half inclined to agree but the other half is not sure.

When he was vetted the vet picked up on a splint on his front right foot which is the one he seems to trip on. The vet at the vetting told us it is not an issue and wouldnt casue us any probs.

Now when the daughter rides him he trips once in a blue moon but more so for my OH. daughter is about 6st and OH is about 11.5st. Now with OH being a very nervous rider when we hacked bud out to try him she didnt do anything but walk so the tripping never showed itself and my daughter did all 3 paces and never had a problem as she doesnt now.

Even in the winter with the dark evening i guess he is getting ridden 2-3 times a week during the week and then a longer ride at the weekends each day but none of it is particularily strenuous as like i have said the OH is still finding her feet back on a horse so to speak.

He is turned out with our very good dooer spony who is strip grazed. he is very protective of his grass so we think bud isnt getting much grazing done on the fresh grass and as such we compensate by ginving him big haynets in his stable overnight.

He came to us unfit and overweight-ish so we accept that his lack of fitness could be the answer.

Also when we had buds saddle fitted the shop who fitted it mentioned he had a lttle bit of muscle wastage on his right side so he need to be schooled left more than right to try and build him back up evenly. I have no idea if this is the case as she is the first person to mention it but it doesn alsmost seem pausible that this could also bee the case as it fits in with the right front foot tripping?

Following so far?

Now on top of that our little ponio only gets the bare minimum hard feed at night of a handful of happy hoof and a handful of bran which is pretty much a follow on from our old yard where we had to feed him something as the yo's horses got fed and ponio went mental if he didnt. Now we have bud he is basically getting the same as ponio but more like half a scoop of each because he is bigger! Now i gather happy hoof is a low cal diet food for horses prone to laminitis hence our pony got it as it was a case of it was the least cal food we could give him to satify the old YO that we were fedding him something.

I'm guessing for a young growing ISH this is probably not the right thing to feed him(although i doubt it is doing any harm) as it has the calorific/nuetricous value of cardboard. Is there somewhere i can look online to get a guide as to what to feed him?

We have also had our back person out so he is sound in that sense aswell.

What say the great HHO collective then?
 
You say he is ISH, is that one with proper paperwork to prove his age, or could he be younger than you think - because the bum high thing could also indicate he is younger than 4.

I suspect your nervous OH does not ride him up to the bridle enough and allows the young horse to slop along and that is probably why he trips up.

As for food, it is better to have a slightly leaner young horse than a fat one, especially as he already has a splint. Happy hoof is fine for both of them, but I would stop wasting money on bran, it is a pointless food. If you want to add something for the young horse in respect of minerals and vitamins you could try and one of a number of feed balancers, like TopSpec etc.
 
We had the dentist out the other day and he has confirmed he is definately around 4 1/2 due to having one baby tooth one side and the adult tooth the other side which comes through at 4 1/2.

He does drop his head quite alot when ridden so that is also plausable. So lessons for the OH then. she needs them anyway for confidence.

The bran is nothing more than something to act as a filler so it seems like they have got more food than they have but if top spec did the same thing but with the added benifit of extra nutrients then i'll give it a go.
 
If he's got a bit of muscle wastage on one side it could be that the saddle is pinching right behind the shoulder, that could well be acentuating the tripping. If his weight is also changing then the fit of the saddle might be a bit squiffy: and as I'm sure you know when they're 4 and still sprouting, he's changing shape all over! Plus, to echo what Tracey is saying, my ISH was sold in Aug as 5, low and behold the following week his corner teeth fell out...hhhm, he's only a bit younger but come Jan he certainly won't be 6, he'll be 5! Re the tripping, it would be worth having your farrier take a really good look at his foot balance as well.
 
I'd have a physio / vet look at him regarding the muscle wastage and see what you can do to balance that up.

Feed wise he'd be better off (IMHO!) with happy hoof and a lo cal balancer to make sure he gets the vits / mins he needs.

Tripping sounds like OH just doesn't quite have enough experience to ride him forward so lessons should address that issue.

Above all, he's clearly just a baby who'll need time to finish growing into himself and you can't hurry that along unfortunately.
 
Agree re the tripping and riding forward, my ISH does that and its always with the washing line OH not with better riders.

If you are looking for a lo cal balancer then Baileys Lo cal is excellent and good value.

I find Dengie Healthy Hooves much more appetising than Happy Hoof, the Dengie one is also lami approved etc but is moist and minty and the horses go crazy for it, Happy hoof like sawdust in comparison...

If you just wanted to feed a general cube then Spillers H&P nuts are great, my ISH has been on them for 9 years!
 
Bubbles, Our farrier is definately very good and of the opinion his feet are fine bar a small issue which is more a case of getting them to grow out at the back a bit width wise but it isnt an issue tripping wise.

scotsmare, Next time our physio is out to him or anyone else on the yard we'll get her to have a look and see what she thinks. My OH is most definately a nervous rider who is still finding her feet. She is perfectly happy in walk and getting more confinent in trot but still needs more practice. I'll sort her out some lessons and in time she will become much better but after having a bad fall a few years ago she is in no rush to try anything she isnt comfortable with. I rekon it'll be april time before she gets him cantering!

Haffieliesel, Good to hear from someone with basically the same problem with there ISH. I think myself and the OH were aware it wasnt a huge issue the tripping and was more than likely just the way he's being ridden but it is always good to hear that from other people. My Oh is 11.5st and very concious of that fact and worried she is a bit big for him but IMO i dont think she is. He shows no signs of discomfort when she is onboard just the tripping.
 
I have a little ISH mare, (she's 7/8th ID) who is 4 1/2, and we have turned her away for several months, as she has also started to grow again (hard feed maybe after all her previous life being out in an Irish field?). She's very obviously croup-high at the moment, and although a very willing little worker started to show signs of imbalance, resistance and stiffness over the last couple of months ..... so could be similar issue? Our physio recommended that she be turned away/very gently ridden out just a couple of times a week until she "evens up".

Hope this is helpful - ISH just seem to take a VERY long time to grow into themselves!!
 
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