ADVICE PLEASE ..IM BEEN CONNED !!

littlelegs said:
Glad for the ops sake she has got a refund. But from the horses pov, being pts would have been preferable than what is most likely to happen now, back through the sales again, and where does a lame & broken winded horse go from there?
Funny that those saying the op has a duty to the horse & paying vet fees etc rather than being 'throw away' & pts are all really happy its going back to a seller who'll put an unhealthy horse through a sales. But no, those saying pts are obviously heartless, another sales ring is far more in the horses interest. Personally, I'd ask for a partial refund as the horse isn't fit for purpose, keep it & either treat or pts dependant on funds. Not hand it back to an unscrupulous vendor.
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Very good point.
 
Miss L Toe said:
AI= British Horse Society Assistant Instructor, someone who has more than average knowledge of things horsey
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If only! The BHSAI requires a very very basic knowledge/standard of riding. I train people for it, and am therefore painfully aware that people with very limited knowledge can pass easily, when they are a very long way away from being professional horse people. It serves a purpose as an introductory level qualification, but is no more than that.
 
I actually dont think that the people who have been critical are being excessively harsh on OP, since buying a horse without riding it or vetting it etc is just about the most mad way to buy a horse there can be just from common sense without special knowledge, especially where the horse has previously been consigned to what I take to be a general auction (not a breed specific sale or performance sale which are very different) and not sold. You do only need to have read a childrens pony book to learn that rule about auctions, horses are there for a reason and though some are genuine or just unbroken youngstock, older ridden horses are usually there for a reason to do with behaviour or health.

I am pleased for the op if they manage to get a refund but I do not agree that someone who has had enough experience of horses to get their AI should not have known to run a mile rather than buy in this way.

I hope no Nigerian princes send them an email asking to use their bank account for a week :-)

I also feel sorry for the horse as I suspect he will be resold/reauctioned without the issues being mentioned, much like horses at dealers you have vetted and who fail and the dealer doesnt seem very shocked/disappointed (as they are planning to see if the next buyer/mug bothers with a vetting or not....). I hope I am wrong.
 
Lets get one thing straight here ....

i did ride the horse prior to purchase (i never said i didnt )

Horse was ridden in arena at my yard for 40 mins ,behaved perfectly and seemed fine in every aspect

l am not 16 ,i am 45 ,have worked with horses since i left school ,i am not a troll,i have bought and sold many horses including one that competed at badminton

The horse has gone,i got my refund which i was perfectly happy about ,and the original vendor has got a copy of my vet report
 
magoodle said:
Lets get one thing straight here ....

i did ride the horse prior to purchase (i never said i didnt )

Horse was ridden in arena at my yard for 40 mins ,behaved perfectly and seemed fine in every aspect

l am not 16 ,i am 45 ,have worked with horses since i left school ,i am not a troll,i have bought and sold many horses including one that competed at badminton

The horse has gone,i got my refund which i was perfectly happy about ,and the original vendor has got a copy of my vet report
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I think you did well to get your refund and hope some of the less helpful comments in this thread won't stop you from posting again
 
I paid £3500 for a horse, had him on trial for 2 weeks in that time he passed a vetting. Private sale too, 11 months later he was PTS cause ringbone. So not riding the horse or having them vetted doesn't make a difference in some instances. I'm glad you've had a good outcome and I truely hope the horse has one too.
 
littlelegs said:
Glad for the ops sake she has got a refund. But from the horses pov, being pts would have been preferable than what is most likely to happen now, back through the sales again, and where does a lame & broken winded horse go from there?
Funny that those saying the op has a duty to the horse & paying vet fees etc rather than being 'throw away' & pts are all really happy its going back to a seller who'll put an unhealthy horse through a sales. But no, those saying pts are obviously heartless, another sales ring is far more in the horses interest. Personally, I'd ask for a partial refund as the horse isn't fit for purpose, keep it & either treat or pts dependant on funds. Not hand it back to an unscrupulous vendor.
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^^This.
 
Black_Horse_White said:
I paid £3500 for a horse, had him on trial for 2 weeks in that time he passed a vetting. Private sale too, 11 months later he was PTS cause ringbone. So not riding the horse or having them vetted doesn't make a difference in some instances. I'm glad you've had a good outcome and I truely hope the horse has one too.
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:eek:Was he insured!?

I know that you've sadly had a few letdowns and heartbreaks regarding horses bought in the past and I really feel for you, but regardless and as cold hearted as it sounds I have to say, that's a lot of money to anyone:(
 
I'm not going over the whole thread,

but just wanted to pick up on a point ...Don't have to answer it op but I'm just really curious and not being rude .

You say you don't need lessons because you have your AI ......Why not ?

I know of several ladies your age who have their AI and very very knowledgable but they still take lessons or refresher courses.

Like I say, I'm not being rude, just curious as to why you think you don't need lessons :)


Col x
 
Colleen_Miss_Tom said:
I'm not going over the whole thread,

but just wanted to pick up on a point ...Don't have to answer it op but I'm just really curious and not being rude .

You say you don't need lessons because you have your AI ......Why not ?

I know of several ladies your age who have their AI and very very knowledgable but they still take lessons or refresher courses.

Like I say, I'm not being rude, just curious as to why you think you don't need lessons :)


Col x
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OP didn't mean she doesn't need lessons at all...she was replying to a post by someone being very rude who made assumptions that she was a total novice...I believe the poster said 'go and book yourself some lessons at a local riding school' to which she replied 'I don't need lessons I am an AI....she was trying to make the point she isn't a novice.
 
Parker79 said:
OP didn't mean she doesn't need lessons at all...she was replying to a post by someone being very rude who made assumptions that she was a total novice...I believe the poster said 'go and book yourself some lessons at a local riding school' to which she replied 'I don't need lessons I am an AI....she was trying to make the point she isn't a novice.
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Excuse me? Rude I can do but I don't believe my post on this thread was rude in any way, shape or form. If you want rude, go on, ask for it, I'm at a loose end...

Yes, an assumption was made based on the dubious and incredibly naive way the OP went about trying to buy a horse, not helped by the dubious grammar in the title. I genuinely advised her on what I thought she'd be best doing for herself and the horse and apologized for advising her to get a instructor who could help her when the OP explained she was more experienced than, IMO, the first post suggested.

You don't have to like my advice, you don't have to take it and you don't even have to read it if you don't want to, but how dare you tell people I'm being rude just for giving advice which was requested?
 
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Can i just add to this, just because youve an AI doesnt mean you wont benefit from lessons, its the lower end of the BHS equestrian qualifications, and AI'S, like most forward thinking riders will hopefully aknowledge they still have a lot to learn. So a reply to get lessons, whether AI or not is a good suggestion.
 
OK not reading all your replies here!! (too many and too tired!!) AI or not you imo were very naive. Conned or not, I don't think you stand a hope in hells chance of getting your money back here. Regarding the auctioneers, I would be very very surprised if the sale was covered by them if it was sold outside the ring in the carpark in a private deal, the auctioneers would not have received their auctioneers fee, so you cannot expect them to cover this sale.

£3K imo is alot to gamble on a carpark deal, but that's just me

Good luck with whatever you decide to do with this horse, learn from your experience and better luck next time, though would personally recommend you take an experienced friend, helper, colleague with you next time.
 
Flame_ said:
Excuse me? Rude I can do but I don't believe my post on this thread was rude in any way, shape or form. If you want rude, go on, ask for it, I'm at a loose end...

Yes, an assumption was made based on the dubious and incredibly naive way the OP went about trying to buy a horse, not helped by the dubious grammar in the title. I genuinely advised her on what I thought she'd be best doing for herself and the horse and apologized for advising her to get a instructor who could help her when the OP explained she was more experienced than, IMO, the first post suggested.

You don't have to like my advice, you don't have to take it and you don't even have to read it if you don't want to, but how dare you tell people I'm being rude just for giving advice which was requested?
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How dare I????.......I gave my opinion on something that was posted! I have no intention of getting into an argument...IMO your comment was unnessary.... As for your comment 'ask for it I'm at a loose end' well I'm sorry you feel that angry but I think that says a lot about you.

I have heard enough now.....delete seems a very good sugdestion!
 
Parker79 said:
How dare I????.......I gave my opinion on something that was posted! I have no intention of getting into an argument...IMO your comment was unnessary.... As for your comment 'ask for it I'm at a loose end' well I'm sorry you feel that angry but I think that says a lot about you.

I have heard enough now.....delete seems a very good sugdestion!
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I'm not angry, but I think you're out of order. Point out this alleged rudeness then. I think you just don't like or agree with what I advised, which is fine by me and a difference of opinion, but making up rubbish about rudeness is just damn cheeky.
 
How is that a post asking for advice on the legal position after buying an unsound horse end up being a rather personal attack on someone's intelligence and horsemanship?

Well done on getting your money back.
 
I've only read upto page 8 so apologies if this has already been mentioned!

I do feel for you op as it must be a very horrible thing to happen. However it strikes me very odd that anyone would pay £3k for a horse & not get it vetted.

It was bought at home/yard so nothing to do with the auctioneeers, so surely there was nothing stopping it being vetted & then the problems should have been picked up before you bought it.

I wish you all the best with this horse & hope you can get it something like sound, but unless you can prove they were a dealer & be prepared for a possibly expensive fight, I think you would be better off putting your time & money into helping the horse instead & chalking it up to experience, hopefully with a lesson learned. xx
 
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