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PoppyS.

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Me and my OH are thinking about getting a puppy :), I’m very excited, mainly because he said we can get a Springer ! :D I loved springers since I was a child, although never had one since my family only got our first dog when I was 11, a rescue greyhound who was 5 when we adopted him, died at aged 13, so never had the chance to have another dog while I was there, before I moved out on my own. I have since met my now husband, and we have been living together for around 3 years. We are not quite ready for kids yet, however would love to have a puppy around. Although we don’t have kids yet, we do plan on having them in the future, maybe the next 2-4 years. We both work, I work as a dog groomer, 10-6 every week day, husband works 9-5 office job, also every week day. We have our weekends free, either spending time with family (nothing that would be inconvenient to do with the puppy, other than the occasional meal out, or me and OH going to national trust places, most of which allowing dogs. Of course, sometimes we will have to leave the dog, for if we went shopping, or went to the cinema or so on so on. My mum has agreed to sometimes doggysit if she’s avaliable, if she isn’t, then we shall either reschedule or wait until the dog is able to be alone for longer periods of time. I don’t have a lunch break, but OH does, so he will be coming home to let them go to the toilet, and to play around in the garden for about 20-30 minutes. We have an average garden, big enough for the puppy to run around in before their vaccinations are done. When the pup is able to be out and about, we will be taking it to the local forest, and open fields. We also have a lake close by, about a 15 minute car ride. We plan on taking it to puppy classes, and agility classes once old enough. We understand they also need mental exercise, so will be buying some mind working things (the things where they have to try and figure out how to get a treat out??). I heard somewhere that once the pup is allowed out, we should take them out off leash and let them run around until they’re tired so that we don’t damage their joints/bones. If this is true then that is fine, I can exercise the dog for at least an hour in the morning, depending how long they wish to be out in the field, and at night for at most 3 hours once they’re adult. On weekends the dog will most likely be able to run until their hearts content. We have some questions,

Are Springer spaniels good for agility? Would a cocker spaniel be a better choice? Work or show line? (I 100% prefer the look of work springers, however I am willing to get a show line if it’s better suited for us). We also love collies, and want to get one in the future, once the Springer is fully trained and fully grown, so do Border collies and springers generally get along (I know it’s not always on the breed, but as a general thing, do they tend to get along?)

I know this is a very long message, but we want to be sure that we are doing the right thing so that we don’t have to rehome the puppy, which would break our hearts.
 
It sounds like the puppy is going to be alone for a very big proportion of the day? Your set up is fine for an older dog but I don't think it's reasonable to leave a puppy alone for that period of time, unless you have two for company.

I wouldn't get a working dog, and as this is your first I'd definitely opt for a show type who are generally more placid.

Dogs, especially in the first six months or so, are incredibly hard work. You become used to it over time, but in the early days of getting my first own one (a rescue), I remember thinking What the hell have I done/I'm bloody exhausted/My easy life is over!

You will face a lot of hurdles - your approach to training/what to do when that doesn't work/learning the best way of keeping it entertained/confined when you're not home (not as easy as just sticking in it a crate and away you go!), figuring out what food won't give it the $hits, and so on and so forth... but it will be worth it!
 
Simply, I think it would be unfair on the puppy of any breed, let alone an intelligent, high energy breed like a Springer. You both effectively work full time. Someone popping in to let out for a pee for half an hour will not cut it & is unacceptable.
 
Personally I don’t think it would be fair to leave a puppy for such long hours on a regular basis. Why not look at Springer Spaniel Rescue who would be able to match you to an older dog who would fit into your routine?
 
You both work full time.

Hell on earth for a puppy.

Just so we don't have to all have the same discussion again.....

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?766152-First-time-puppy-owner-experience-tips-breed-adv
 
So wrong. I have 3 springers who were with my OH all day while I went back to work after y weeks of pandering to their every need. The excitement caused by me coming home was insane. Mine are never left more than 4 hours and went to the neighbours when very young if we were out that long.
 
i would agree, not a good idea to get a puppy if it is going to be left at home on its own for such a long time. also the 2 breeds you want need plenty of exercise both physically and mentally. there are usually plenty of adult springers and border collies in rescue because people dont realise what they are buying. why not take a look at spaniel rescue sites and see what is available and what their problems are and see if there is something that matches what you want.
 
I’ll be honest, I’m worried about when I move out leaving my whippet x as he’s higher energy than my full whippet girl, I’d certainly not dream of having a working breed or leave a puppy all day alone (mine have always gone to a dog walker/doggy day care for part of the day until they’re old enough to be left with the older dog)
 
Lots of people have springers and collies they can be a very good combination.
Both are good choices for agility.
I do think you need to rethink your set up though as being left for at least 8 hrs 5 days per week with just a pee break won't work for most dogs.
 
Perhaps OP could clarify, given her profession I think I assumed that she might be able to take a dog to work with her/have her own set up.
 
Is this a 'spoof' post?!! Springers are great dogs but not for inexperienced owners. Better to wait until you have more time as weekends won't be enough, also not a good idea to 'let the dog run round until its tired' if its a puppy -you'll end up with damaged joints. If you're really keen on getting a dog/learning more why not volunteer to help at one of the rescues, I'm sure you could find one near you. The are usually happy to have volunteers - once they've been checked - helping and walking the dogs, you may eventually find one that you feel is the one for you, whatever the breed.
 
Is this a 'spoof' post?!! Springers are great dogs but not for inexperienced owners. Better to wait until you have more time as weekends won't be enough, also not a good idea to 'let the dog run round until its tired' if its a puppy -you'll end up with damaged joints. If you're really keen on getting a dog/learning more why not volunteer to help at one of the rescues, I'm sure you could find one near you. The are usually happy to have volunteers - once they've been checked - helping and walking the dogs, you may eventually find one that you feel is the one for you, whatever the breed.

I thought it was a wind up post too. Sorry - I mean I was hoping it was a wind up post....
 
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