Affiliating BS and passport names

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This could be a numpty question so apologies... anyway I am thinking of affiliating my girl with BS and possibly BD. She has a name on her passport (one word and its hideous!! :)) but since the day I bought her I have called her something different and so has everyone else, vet, yard etc.

Anyway the name on her passport isnt really a show name, lets say for example its Beryl.. its not and no I dont think that is hideous, anyway she is passported 'Beryl' but I call her Darcy...

Do i have to affiliate her under 'Beryl' or whatever she is called? If I wanted to affiliate her under another name ie. Darcy or 'Demolition Darcy' as she is commonly called :) do i need to change her name in her passport first?

I would like to give her a show name - prob not demolition d... all her siblings have show names with a particular prefix as she is from quite a rare blood line but I am confused how to go about it...

See told you it was numpty!! And thanks in advance...
 
We had a pony with the name of Bambi, no posh name so we just made one up & registered that with BS. Also our boy we have now has a different BS name to what is in his passport, so I know you could - unless they've changed the rules as they were both registered about 4yrs ago xx
 
Our BS showjumping pony has totally different name to passport name as were not allowed it as it's a disney cartoon name..so we were able to give him are own name....but if it's a breeder;s name you have to use that name unless breeder give's there ok to change it.,,no idea about BE though
 
It will also depend on who the passport issuing authority is as to whether or not you can get the name changed - I have a 4 year old with a British Skewbald & Piebald Association passport and her breeder gave her the most awful name (no stud name or anything like that involved so no reason really not to allow a change of name) but the BSPA adamantly will NOT allow me to change it!
 
You have to use the name on the passport if its a breeders name, however if they havent been registered before you can change it when registering but it cost approx £95 extra on top of your registration fee! Hence why Lily had to keep her breeders name of 'Gella Van De Brouwershoeve'!! It makes me laugh every time i go in the ring as none of the judges can prounounce it well accpet for Matt Millin :)
 
As stated above, if its a Breeders suffix or a Breed Associations passport you have to register as the name given.
If the horse just has a bog-standard passport ( Horse Passport Agency/Veteran Horse Passport etc) then you are allowed to register it with them under a different name.
Give them a ring, I found them to be very helpful, (i did try and put my mare under a different name), but they emailed me and explained the reason.
 
I believe the rules state that they have to be under their passport name. However, it depends how horrendous... BS wouldn't register mine as Cocaine Joke AH (thank god!) as they said it was inappropriate!
 
I recently registered my mare...he SHB (GB) stud book papers have her down as Champagne (GB) so I asked for that as I actually think its ok...however when i rung to confirm name for entries they had given her Champagne IV dispite me putting other options on the form... i suggested just dropping the brackets from the (GB) and they said oh yes we can do that so I got my correct passported name just minus the () ie Champagne GB
 
There is a historic problem with names as many organisations identified a horse by its name but in the 1990s many changed to using the UELN format to identify horses and the name was considered irrelevant. There is still a problem as DEFRA stated in 2005 that although the 15 digit UELN was the industry standard standard it was not mandatory even though many organisations had been using it for over ten years but in 2009 it became mandatory. Some of you will have seen that in Germany for example it is common practice not to name a horse until it is graded into the studbook and sold as this gives the new owner the possibility to use a name that they like. Once a name is entered into the studbook it remains for ever in the pedigree document but the horse can in many cases have a competition name that is linked to the competition yard or sponsor the EU regulation recognises this as it says "(k) the name of the animal (birth name and where applicable the commercial name" . We then come to breeders prefixes which is covered by the regulation as this should never be altered but this can be quite a mouthful and there is sense in having a shorted competition name. One would have expected the BEF to have realised this and come to an arrangement with the studbooks and disciplines to acknowledge that the UELN is the only identifier for the horse and the name is irrelevant. For older horses there is a way every PIO has adapted its historic numbering method to meet the 15 digit UELN.
 
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