Aga Khan Cup

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Both Belgium and Britain have failed on two occassions apiece to make the second round.

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Indeed. We both finished 10th once and 9th once. We have an 8th and the next worst they have is a 7th, so according to rule 16 we are relegated. Yet according to rule 10 we finished above them.
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It never fails to amaze me that international organisations frequently manage to produce rules that are either ambiguous or contradictory (or both)! I guess it is time for the lawyers to make their money.
 
Munchkin - I have a feeling they wont be confirming anything. With 2 contradicting rules there isnt much they can do...
 
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r u sure?? coz overall belgiums results were slightly better.
UK 3 5 5 7 8 9 10
BEL 3 4 5 6 6 9 10

then todays results so......

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With todays added in:
UK 2 3 5 5 7 8 9 10
BEL 3 4 5 6 6 7 9 10

We have the best score and the worst (if you take out the equal ones at the bottom). Somebody needs to give the muppet who wrote the rules a good slap!
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my spy says they are stil arguing beccause we are not talking about a prizewinning place which is what rule 10 is about but relegation which should mean rule 16 applies.
However we might rember that last year the FEI did not relegate anyone and instead expanded the league so perhaps a case can be made by those in the promotional league that all three sides should go down and an extra one go up....... just a thought
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I doubt theres all that much traffic, its hardly the most popular of sports - just that they have realised their errors.
 
i think you will find that those are done by a humble score person and I would be surprised if that is the end of it. The FEI cannot just ignore their own rules.
 
As would/will be the Brits in tht situation. As Lucratia said, going by Rule 16, which appears margnally more applicable its bye,bye Brits...
 
I don't think this is over, not by a long chalk. There is too much money involved for either country to "happily" accept relegation, so I think this could end up going legal.

I did think that a jump-off between the two countries might be a good idea, maybe at the Europeans. Then again, Belgium might object to our home advantage; and also, I'm by no means convinced we'd win!
 
the internet site is controlled by the little people, that probably went up before the head honcho's even saw it....... it is going to be a long winter I think!
 
Rules are plainly a mess and more thought should have been given. I'd say keep both GB and Belgium up. None of the nations in the Promotional League are particularly strong and would probably struggle a lot in the Super League.Canada actually qualified but turned down the chance to compete in this year's Super League - that's why the Italians were in.
I don't like the drop between 10 and 7 points for 1st & 2nd - should be 10 & 8. Just look at how close the competitions have been this year.
 
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i think you will find that those are done by a humble score person and I would be surprised if that is the end of it. The FEI cannot just ignore their own rules.

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I have been that humble score person before now (in another sport). There is often a requirement to get the result on the internet as soon as possible; and to correct it later if necessary. Given that this could rumble on for days / weeks / months; they obviously need to publish the result as they see it, and worry about the rest if / when it happens.
 
I think you are right, as the final standings are no longer on the FEI website!
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I do have a copy still open on my PC, which I might save, as it may be needed as evidence.
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Rules are plainly a mess and more thought should have been given. I'd say keep both GB and Belgium up. None of the nations in the Promotional League are particularly strong and would probably struggle a lot in the Super League.Canada actually qualified but turned down the chance to compete in this year's Super League - that's why the Italians were in.

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i have to correct you here sjfan, the italians won their place fair and sqare by finishing second behing france in the promotional league. when the league was expanded to ten teams they got in. in fact sweden should have gone down, but heaven forbid that three of the lesser lights should be promoted to make the numbers up when canada dropped out so they got to stay in. frankly i think neither GB nor belgium has a special case for staying up and i would drop three and let the other nations have their shot. this disgusting snobbery about the other nations is half the FEI's trouble, how on earth are these nations supposed to get better when the better shows are practically a closed shop.
it certainly hasnt done the french any harm 'slumming it' for a season has it.
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I should have checked before I wrote. Illness and the move meant I was following such matters as closely as usual last year! The new version of the Promotional League looks horribly complicated - gave up trying to read the document last night. I don't really think it's snobbery regarding other nations. A country has to have lots of money, riders and horses to travel far and wide to earn enough points for promotion, France had those, hence got back after 1 year, as expected. Spain spent a lot of money in the run-up to the Barcelona Olympics, and they have plenty of their own international shows at which to gain experience, but it has not greatly improved their standing. I'm certainly not alone in disliking someone buying riders from other nations as has been the case in Ukraine. Better get back to proper work now!
 
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