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LauraWheeler

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Right I know i'm a little over sensative at the mo. Especialy as I took Lucys Trophy back last night :(:(:(:(:(.
But I got a call from a job i applyed for a few weeks ago last night asking me to email my CV over. I don't have a CV so I emailed them detils of my jobs for the last 7 years and a roundup of my jobs before that. :) This morning the woman phoned and we had a chat and she said I sounded like just what they where looking for (esp as she knows the event rider I used to work for ;)) She asked when i could come over. And this is when the conversation turned. I said i didn't drive so my OH would need to bring me over one eve of weekend. She started asking me why I didn't drive (and not in a very nice way) I said i couldn't afford to lurn and she just said she thought it was about time i did :mad: (how rude) Then she said could i come over this eve or Sat morning. I said we where buisy tonight (OH is picking up his kids, I didn't say that but it's true) and I was working on Sat. She asked if I was working all day on Sat. When I said yes she just said "well lets forget it then" :mad::mad::mad:
B***dy woman who does she think she is. I can't just drop everything to go and see her. Well the job hunt continues.
Where are all the nice jobs with nice bosses :confused: I want one of those for once.:(:(:(:(
Thanks for reading my little rant. I'm realy quite upset now. :(:( Oh When is life going to get better?
 
I'm sorry that it didn't go well. It is so disheartening when stuff like that happens.

I would try get a CV sorted, you basically did one, but if you can find a suitable template then people might take you more seriously, it won't hurt anyway :)

I think at the moment a lot of employers are expecting people to just drop everything and come see them to. The number of people unemployed means that a lot of people will if they think that will get them the job! It isn't right, but that doesn't mean it isn't common...

Good luck on your search and keep us updated :)
 
Sorry Laura, but I think she gave you a lot of chances to meet her and it comes across as if you were being a bit awkward.

I know how frustrating it is not being able to drive as my OH doesn't drive (due to lack of time rather than lack of funds) but if you want to work with horses then you're going to have to learn somehow. Have you got friends/family who can teach you the basics? I've given OH some lessons in my car on private land (we live in a school) and he can now stop, start, change gear, steer and reverse. Took me a couple of hours and probably saved us £60!

Also a CV isn't hard to put together - if you do an Internet search there should be lots of templates that you can adapt. It just needs to have name, address, contact details (landline, mobile number, e-mail address etc.), a list of education experiences (schools, years spent there, exam results etc.) and employment. Be careful not to leave any gaps in your timeline as this would raise questions.

Good luck! X
 
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I have to say, I'd be put off employing you for yard work too if you dont have your own transport or a reliable lift. Sorry!
 
Mmmm, she sounds a bit tricky. However, if you're serious about finding a new job then to tell someone you're busy when invited over to chat about a potential new one wouldn't endear you to me either.

Sorry, I'm not sure that she was actually being unreasonable.
 
Is it part of the job to be able to drive? Ie transporting horses? Whilst the lady could of been a little more tactful. I do think you need to think about getting your CV done and maybe think about learning to drive.

I know it is a difficult time for you at the moment, but there is so much competition for jobs at the moment, employers are likely to have numerous people to choose from. So you need to make sure you can offer everything others can and more, so you are seen to be flexible.

If I were employing someone for my yard, I also would like a car driver if at all possible.

Obviously this wasn't the right position for you, so hope you find it and find some happiness soon x
 
Thanks guys.

Eriskayowner I don't feel she gave me a lot of chances to meet her. She gave me tonight and tom. Both of which i can't do. I could have done Sun or next week. OH could have even taken a day off work but he needs a few days notice. It wasn't just what she said it was the way she said it. I've always worked with horses and i've never driven. It's not a requirement of the job so i don't see why it matters anyway. Also it's not just the lurning to drive I can't afford to run a car either. I've always had a simple choice drive or own my pony. Well as you all know my pony comes first :p:D:D.

I just think if she treats someone like that before she employs them what would she be like to work for. :eek: Oh well I should prob be used to people like that atleast as Spudlet said i had a lucky escape this time :p :D
 
NELSON11 said:
Is it part of the job to be able to drive? Ie transporting horses? Whilst the lady could of been a little more tactful. I do think you need to think about getting your CV done and maybe think about learning to drive.

I know it is a difficult time for you at the moment, but there is so much competition for jobs at the moment, employers are likely to have numerous people to choose from. So you need to make sure you can offer everything others can and more, so you are seen to be flexible.

If I were employing someone for my yard, I also would like a car driver if at all possible.

Obviously this wasn't the right position for you, so hope you find it and find some happiness soon x
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Nail on the head there.

OP - Perhaps she could of come across a bit better on the phone to you some people are just quite out spoken and straight to the point without actually meaning to offend or upset.

If you really want the job however and you think you can work round the transport issues, there's nothing stopping you from calling her back and proving that you are worthy of her giving you a chance, be upfront and straight with her....it might get you the job and it might work out very well.

Good Luck though in finding something. :)
 
Thirded!

ahhhh sweetie, she sounds like a right b***h! don't be too bummed out by it. The right job will come along for you I'm sure. If you need a hand doing a CV, let me know - I've done a fair few in my time!!

Things are bound to be difficult for a while - all the bad things that happen, that would only be a little bit bad if you were feeling normal, seem especially bad if you're still upset underneath. Don't put too much pressure on yourself for life to get better - just allow it to run its course and before you know it, you will be feeling tip top!!

How's the new pad?
 
Sorry, it is a tricky situation, although this woman came across as not particularly friendly and you maybe wouldn't have wanted to work for her anyway, you could also potentially put off a good boss by your lack of preparation.

The first thing you should do when you start job hunting is put together a good professional looking CV. It's not that hard, you can download templates online or get advice from the jobcentre/library, etc.

Transport is a problem for a lot of people. She probably thought that if you couldn't be there when you were trying to impress her and get the job, then you may be unreliable in getting there at other times. If you can't stretch to the cost of driving at the moment, how about just doing your CBT & get a little moped or something. At least that shows you are making the effort to be independent & reliable for an employer?
 
LauraWheeler said:
Thanks guys.

Eriskayowner I don't feel she gave me a lot of chances to meet her. She gave me tonight and tom. Both of which i can't do. I could have done Sun or next week. OH could have even taken a day off work but he needs a few days notice. It wasn't just what she said it was the way she said it. I've always worked with horses and i've never driven. It's not a requirement of the job so i don't see why it matters anyway. Also it's not just the lurning to drive I can't afford to run a car either. I've always had a simple choice drive or own my pony. Well as you all know my pony comes first :p:D:D.
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I didn't get two chances for the interview for my job - I was told a date and time. Be there or miss out. Simple as. A lot of job interviews are like this.

As said by someone else, if you couldn't get to the interview, can she be sure that you're going to turn up 100% of the time, on time, everyday in the future? I'm not sure that I would be.

Driving might not be a requirement of the job, but many stables aren't on a bus/train route, and taxis get expensive after a while - more so than running a car! Are there any yards in the area that you can cycle to?

Sorry Laura - I don't mean to sound harsh, but I can see where she's coming from, and I'm only trying to help x
 
hmmmm.. sorry but from her point of view I think, she doesn't think you are serious and really want a job as you didn't make the effort to go and see her ie. get there.. take a bus or taxi whatever. You could have if you really wanted to get a job you would have made the effort.
JMO
But I agree - better off without a boss like that!
 
This is the way you appear to have come across:-

She asked you to forward your CV & you say you haven't got one???? You are looking for a job, you need to have completed one, why haven't you? How do you expect a potential employer to asses whether to give you an interview?

She asked you to come & meet her that evening or Saturday morning & you told her you were busy. She asked if you were working all Saturday & you say yes....did you offer alternative time & explain why you couldn't have the time off in such short notice?

She asked if you could drive & you take umbridge? You say it's not a requirement of the job.......it may be a requirement that she wants. She could want you to collect things from saddlers, collect feed, drive her horses somewhere in her vehicles. She may want to be sure you can get to her on time in the mornings.

And you finish off by saying "Who does she think she is?"..........she's the woman that was offering you potential employment. You appear to be the one being obstructive & think you are doing the woman a favor by applying for the job. I think that your attitude needs to change if you expect someone to employ you. You may not like what you hear but this is how things appear. Good Luck in your search.
 
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I can help you with a CV if you like, just drop me a PM. I had mine professionally written a few years ago and still use the same template. I also used to work in HR so have some experience of recruitment. Oh, and I spent 10 years as a freelance groom so used to selling myself/knowledge/experience lol.

On the driving front, as someone said, most yards aren't easy to get to on public transport. Are you looking for a live in job? If so, I'd say it would be perfectly acceptable to not drive (unless stated in the job ad of course). But if you're planning to live elsewhere and get to work every day, you may well need to be prepared to drive. Perhaps you could at least get a provisional licence? Then you can say you have that and are saving up for lessons once you find a job :)

She does sound a bit unreasonable, but you need to be as flexible as you can be :) If you can't make an interview time, apologise and ask if there is any chance you could re-schedule for such and such a day/time. Don't just say "No, sorry, can't get there".

Hope this is constructive :) By all means PM me if you'd like help with a CV x
 
Sorry it didnt go well.

But when it comes to jobs you have to be as keen as possible, be flexible and basically do what they want, show willing.

Get a CV done ready, then you can send it to someone as quick as possible.

Also driving in the long run will make your life easier.

How would you manage with the job?
Rely on lifts?
That can get awkward and you dont want to seem unreliable.
 
Laura,

You need to get a CV sorted, you might well be the best, most suitable person for a job, but 90% of the time you will not get that chance unless you have a decent CV that puts the information accross in a logical, organised and clear manner. Don't forget most horsy jobs, you need to be organised and systematic, if you can't organise a CV it makes it look as if you arent.

If you need some help PM me, I can send you some templates for you to just enter the info, or I can do one for you...if you're worried about privacy..just leave your address contact details and you can add them yourself later.

Good luck anyway HV
 
Thats just horrible and a tad discriminating?!- just think to yourself at least she showed her true colours to you on the phone rather than when you had started working for her!-

And, let's face it who'd want to work for someone like that!?....

Hope you find someone much nicer to work for...... have you tried just turning up at riders/yards and seeing if they have anything available or would be prepared to give you some work? or tried a wanted ad in the H&H- With Autumn/winter on it's way I'm sure you'll find something soon.
 
Sorry but I agree wholeheartedly with Eriskayowner and Toby_Zaphod...

Maybe she was a bit abrupt with the way she spoke to you, but she asked you 3 questions (can you drive, can you come x day and can you come y day) and your answer was no to all 3.

I have employed and recruited people in the past and I always look for some level of enthusiasm in all potential candidates. The way your post come across, you aren't really showing any at all.

There are always ways around transport (at least for interviews), as others have said public transport or taxis...

Fair enough, you aren't impressed by the way she spoke to you and maybe you wouldn't have wanted to work for her, but please try to be a little more accommodating with future interviews...

I'm not being harsh, just honest to try and help...:)
 
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Sorry but I agree wholeheartedly with Eriskayowner and Toby_Zaphod...
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I'm glad somebody does today!!! I'm more than happy to help put a CV together for OP but I think she needs to be a bit more flexible if she is serious about getting a job. She wants the job, not the job wanting her - it's up to her to prove that the job wants her.
 
I agree that maybe she was abrupt but - I assume it was horse-related/grooms work you are going for? In that case I would imagine you are well aware that many employees in the horse world aren't exactly necessarily the best people persons (if you get my drift).

Also, I agree with the others YOU are the one who wants the job and therefore you should try and make yourself available. Otherwise it is just seen as you not being flexible I'm afraid and will put an employer off. Also you NEED a CV. A professionally done CV will make you stand out if there are more people applying for the job.

I would also seriously consider saving some pennies and trying to learn to drive as this will make you much more appealing to an employer.

At the end of the day employers are not going to come running to you to offer you jobs, you have to work to get them. Trust me, I know as it took me ages to get a new job and I registered with loads of recruiters, had my CV on numerous sites and still it takes a while. Just learn from this experience and next time have some available dates in your mind and try and be as flexible as you can. Don't just say you can't do a date and time, maybe say well i wouldn't be able to get there for then but how about later/earlier that day? An employer does have to understand to some degree you may have other commitments (work etc) but if you are currently not working they may find it hard to understand why you can't make the dates and times they suggest.

Seriously - try and get sorted with the old driving test though.
 
Hi Laura,

Firstly you need to learn to drive. My YO wouldnt employ a yard manager unless they could drive her lorry! And they would DEFINITELY need to be able to drive their own car. Its such a hassle if you can't drive - might be late for work, can't run to get feed, can't run errands...

I would also suggest that you could have phrased you not being able to make this weekend in a different way, i.e. "Oh dear no I'm sorry I can't make this weekend, however I can make a, b or c, which would suit you best?"

Good luck hunting. Oh, and you definitely need a CV. xxx
 
I am a flexable person. When we where talking she asked if i would mind helping with house work and I said I was happy to help with anything required. She didn't give me a chance to arrange another day for an intervew and i did explain I was working tom. I'm not shore many people would be able to drop everything at 24hrs notice anyway and lucky them if they can. As i said i would have been able to arrange anotherday my OH could have taken a day off work to take me up there but she was just very rude and hung up. It's a live in job so transport would not be an issue for getting to work and driving was not stated as part of the job if she had said it was I would have thanked her for her time and left it there. I don't care who she is she had no right to talk to me the way she did and thats the issue i have here. Yes i was applying for the job but she is looking for staff. I don't feel i was doing her a favour by applying for the job i just feel i deserve a little respect but maybe thats to much to ask for in the horse world!!!
I have never needed a CV before for any job i have applyed for and she only gave me a few hours notice that she wanted one. I did the best i could at the time and even provided her with people who would give me referances. (better than a CV I think) I will make a CV incase this situation arrises again but the CV was not the issue here.
Shorly it's my choice weather i drive or not and it will not make my ability to care for the horses any better if i could drive. Like you have all pointed out there are other forms of transport!!!
I'm shore you would all be shocked and a little upset if someone talked to you in that mannor.
I am enthusiastic about working with horses or i wouldn't still be wanting to do it after my expereances with previous bosses. I just don't appreceate rude people, there is just no need for it. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me but this is how i feel. If she was willing to talk to a potential imployee in this way imagen how she treats her staff. Working with horses is not a 9-5 mon-fri job and i'm aware of that. I Always put the care of any horse in my charge first. She didn't give me much of a chance we could have sorted something else out but she just hung up. I find that very rude and that is what i'm saying with this post.
I just want to feel appreciated for what i do. But maybe even in this day and age it's to much to ask.
 
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I am a flexable person. When we where talking she asked if i would mind helping with house work and I said I was happy to help with anything required. She didn't give me a chance to arrange another day for an intervew and i did explain I was working tom. I'm not shore many people would be able to drop everything at 24hrs notice anyway and lucky them if they can. As i said i would have been able to arrange anotherday my OH could have taken a day off work to take me up there but she was just very rude and hung up. It's a live in job so transport would not be an issue for getting to work and driving was not stated as part of the job if she had said it was I would have thanked her for her time and left it there. I don't care who she is she had no right to talk to me the way she did and thats the issue i have here. Yes i was applying for the job but she is looking for staff. I don't feel i was doing her a favour by applying for the job i just feel i deserve a little respect but maybe thats to much to ask for in the horse world!!!
I have never needed a CV before for any job i have applyed for and she only gave me a few hours notice that she wanted one. I did the best i could at the time and even provided her with people who would give me referances. (better than a CV I think) I will make a CV incase this situation arrises again but the CV was not the issue here.
Shorly it's my choice weather i drive or not and it will not make my ability to care for the horses any better if i could drive. Like you have all pointed out there are other forms of transport!!!
I'm shore you would all be shocked and a little upset if someone talked to you in that mannor.
I am enthusiastic about working with horses or i wouldn't still be wanting to do it after my expereances with previous bosses. I just don't appreceate rude people, there is just no need for it. I'm sorry if you don't agree with me but this is how i feel. If she was willing to talk to a potential imployee in this way imagen how she treats her staff. Working with horses is not a 9-5 mon-fri job and i'm aware of that. I Always put the care of any horse in my charge first. She didn't give me much of a chance we could have sorted something else out but she just hung up. I find that very rude and that is what i'm saying with this post.
I just want to feel appreciated for what i do. But maybe even in this day and age it's to much to ask.
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I appreciate all of that and you've explained yourself well to us but did you say to HER that you could have done another date?

And I know how good you are with horses but without a CV you can't show that to her!
 
She didn't give me a chance that is my point. She was rude and hung up!!!!!

I think referaces out way a CV for showing how good i am with horses and I gave her some people who would give me one she could have called them up. A CV is just my writing about how good i am no different to talking to her on the phone or in the email i sent. It's still just my word. But as I said i will now make a CV so it's ready for next time.
 
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She didn't give me a chance that is my point. She was rude and hung up!!!!!

I think referaces out way a CV for showing how good i am with horses and I gave her some people who would give me one she could have called them up. A CV is just my writing about how good i am no different to talking to her on the phone or in the email i sent. It's still just my word. But as I said i will now make a CV so it's ready for next time.
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References should be ON a CV, so saying that you've done better than a CV is not quite correct. I'm quite happy to write you a CV if you want, if you send me the information needed. Or I can PM you a template.

The other word of advice is ensure that your spelling and grammar is correct on it. From reading your posts I would say that you struggle with written English, but remember that reading your CV is probably going to be the first encounter with you, rather than talking to you, so you need your first impression to be spot-on. I know that it makes little difference when working with horses, but you need to keep a potential employer keen, rather than them just move on to the next CV to read (which will be easier to do so if written in good English).
 
I didn't mean it was better than a CV as such. I ment referances are better at showing how good you are with horses.
Also I know my engalish is not good (the joys of dyslexia :rolleyes:) I always get my OH to help me with my job applications/ emails as I know how important first impressions are.
 
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