Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh some B***dy people.

References should be on your CV to back up what you've said. It looks lazy to say "just ring this person or that person they'll tell you how good I am".

You should write a CV and then if you really want to include all your references I'd put next to the job title the name and phone number of your reference.
 
Laura, I wanted to ask if you were dyslexic but didn't want to offend you - I wanted to offer to rewrite your Lucy story as i'm a bit of an English geek, and the story was lovely! If you need any help with a CV, pm me, i'm more than happy to write something up for you, as you seem a lovely, loyal girl, but unfortunately first impressions sometimes are overshadowing that, as in this situation. I can see both sides of the argument here, and applying the 'everything happens for a reason' rule, you simply weren't meant to work for this woman!

Best of luck with the job hunting, and as I said, if you want any help at all drop me a pm and will be happy to assist :)
 
I did wright out what i did at each job as well as giving the adress and number of the person. I wrote a detailed email to her about my expereance last night. She only asked for the CV last night.
I will take the time to do a CV now. But all that was realy missing off what i did last night was my education.
I just don't see how me not having a CV or being able to drive gave her the right to be so rude?
 
LauraWheeler said:
I just don't see how me not having a CV or being able to drive gave her the right to be so rude?
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Your right, it doesnt, I wouldn't give it a second thought now, concentrate on looking for other work instead and take advantage of some of the kind offers (CV etc) that some forum members have offered to do for you, really good idea, don't worked up over it, not worth it. :)
 
I don't think whether you could drive or had a CV is the reason as to why she was rude to you. Whether it is right or wrong I think it has more to do with the fact that she gave you two opportunities to attend an interview. when you couldn't attend, in her opinion that was probably inflexible and that may be was she came accross as being hostile

I really wouldn't get too wound up about it, I would accept the offer of help from lots of people on here to get your CV sorted. Whether you think it is the right way to go about things, it will most definately help you in your job search. A good CV with some good references will go a long way in your search for the ideal job.

Just put it down to experience and look for that perfect position. I am sure it is out there for you.
 
Laura,
from an employer's point of view, it's all well and good having a chat over the phone, but the reality is, when I advertise a vacancy I invariably get dozens of applications... and I want them all lined up in black and white on paper, because with the best intentions in the world, I don't know and don't remember who is who and I am to lazy to write it down when I hear it.
Seeing as I'm about to pay wages to the person, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to make employing them easy for me :)
If I gave somebody an interview date/time or even two, I would expect them to turn up or lose out.
I'm fairly flexible, but after so many applications, my patience starts to wear thin.
 
I'm sorry but I have to agree with the likes of Eriskayowner. You really didnt do yourself any favours. Yes she probably could have been more polite, but frankly when jobs are in high demand you have to go out of your way to show that its you they want. I recently got a new job and to get this job I have waited nearly 18 months, I've sent off my CV literally a hundred times and filled out just as many application forms. I also had professional help to improve my CV as I felt it was looking tired and dated. No way would I ever apply for a job just writing down details and telling them to ring this person and that one because they will tell you how good I am. I also, despite working full time, looking after 3 horses, trying to run my own livery yard and help my parents, went out of my way to make myself available for interviews if I was offered them. I wanted and needed a new better job, so I did what ever it took! I think your attitude towards people who have suggested you learn to drive or even learn to ride a moped almost as bad as the woman who spoke to you. You cannot rely on other people for the rest of your life simply because you prefer to have a horse and ok the job may not immediately entail you having to drive (because its a live in job) but who know's what the situation will be in six months. Your now at an age where your are actively seeking employment, therefore you should be standing on your own two feet. Take the help from people who have offered to write your CV, dont go on the defensive when people are just trying to get you to understand, and get friends and family to give you lessons in their cars, to reduce the number of lessons you need to pass your test. You dont have to buy a car when you pass, you can share with your OH, parents etc, but it will make you so much more available and much more likely to get a job. You have to do what ever it takes to get a job, as difficult as it may be, but when there are literally tens and hundreds of people going for the same position in all forms of employment you wont get anywhere the way your going. I wish you the best of luck and with forum members help hope you succeed in finding employment very soon.
 
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I have to say she does sound a bit rude and as others have said would you really want to work for her...

But i would never have got my job without a driving licence, but it was specified in the job advert, and I had to go for a full days trial, (Free I may add) i worked the yard for the whole day and then had to go in one evening for a sit down interview. For the free trial I was given 4 days notice and the interview I went for 2 days after the free trial. Yard work in particular is never a 9 till 5 job and potential employees want to know that if theres a problem they can rely on that member of staff to be available, and you may have given the impression that getting to the yard for work would be a problem. IMO if you are desperate for a particular job you have to be prepaired to say "how high" when a potential employer says "jump".
 
Laura hun, I hope you're taking all these posts in the spirit they were intended, i.e. to help you.

You've had a traumatic time and many changes over a short period of time, which may well cloud your judgement in some way. As you have already found out, the people who make up the horse world are indeed a law unto themselves. They often have to make split second decisions, they are very often broke or close to it, they may well have x number of horses with health issues (not of their own making), and for someone like that, to take time out to call you and to provide a couple of options is a big deal to them. I know that, charm sweeteness and light though I can be, I can also be sharp and to the point, espcially where work is concerned. If I were the lady in question, had I come on here and seen your post, I would be most put out. Think about it from her angle. That isn't to say it's right or wrong, but it is a learning opportunity; the lady may not think so, but at least you will get something from it :)

It does not sound like you and this lady would be a match made in heaven, so better that you both found out sooner rather than later.

As to driving, yes, you are quite right, it is entirely up to you whether you drive or not. I cannot imagine having to be reliant on someone else, oh, yes I can (lying in bed with broken back and not allowed to drive - duh, I'd forgotten that bit!), but it is your choice. It will however, affect your chances in the job market. I was thinking the other day that once we get moved it might be good to have someone like you around, especially if we get more horses (yikes! Don't tell D :D), but as soon as I saw you didn't drive it made me think no, it wouldn't work because I'd want whoever it was to be able to get out and about and go for feed, etc. etc. etc. I don't mean that I would want someone who wasn't as concientious as it sounds like you are, rather that I would want both :). Of course there will be lots of people who don't mind either way, but it does restrict your value in the market at a time when one needs more rather than less.
 
MrsMozart said:
Laura hun, I hope you're taking all these posts in the spirit they were intended, i.e. to help you.

I was thinking the other day that once we get moved it might be good to have someone like you around, especially if we get more horses (yikes! Don't tell D :D), but as soon as I saw you didn't drive it made me think no, it wouldn't work because I'd want whoever it was to be able to get out and about and go for feed, etc. etc. etc. I don't mean that I would want someone who wasn't as concientious as it sounds like you are, rather that I would want both :). Of course there will be lots of people who don't mind either way, but it does restrict your value in the market at a time when one needs more rather than less.
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I completely agree with this. From reading your others posts it's blindingly obvious that you're 100% committed to your horses, which is fab. BUT, I personally would never hire someone to work on a yard who couldn't drive - even as a live in position. Horses, by their very nature, tend to be in rural, out of the way areas where public transport simply can't be relied on. What would happen if you needed to run out for feed - or even first aid supplies at short notice?

In this day in age I think every potential employee needs to make themselves as hireable as possible no matter what line of work they're in, and that means having all the essential skills (like driving), plus one or two extra. And as other posters have pointed out, cars and car ownership needn't break the bank if you have a friend willing to help you out.

Best of luck with the job search :-)
 
Sorry i have to post here after reading all the other posts, applying for a job/s and dealing with different people horsey/non horsey is a learning experience all the time; rule to live with for the rest of your life, keep chin up, be helpful, be humble, smile, and only have a moan when no one else can hear you. Give her a call back and tell her you have spoken to your OH and can see her on X date and time and if she agrees then maybe she isnt so nasty and rude after all. Possibly her saying just "forget it or leave it" is just her way of speaking and that was an opening for you to respond. Give it a go you have nothing to lose but lots to gain. Life does get better I promise. You can deal with the learning to drive issue when it suits you, put it on your TO DO list.
 
Laura I think that all the lovely forum members have given you good advice, and due to your unfortunate circumstances have handled your situation with kid gloves. Please remember that an employer holds the the cards, it is up to you to put your self forward as the best you can, if it means breaking your back to get to an interview, so be it. Not many jobs about at the moment and many will have everything in place to put themselves at the top of the pile. It is not your right to get a job, it is up to you to be reliable and capable to do the job description. Your attitude seems rather unfair to the person that wanted to interview you. To talk about her on an open forum, might just hinder your chances of a job offer.
 
Been thinking about this Laura - how about a scooter to begin with? They are much cheaper to buy and run than a car, the test is cheaper to do (I think I'm right in saying that for an engine below a certain power level you only need your Compulsory Basic Training then you can ride as long as you have 'L' plates on) and it would give you a measure of independence to get yourself to interviews etc:)

Good luck with your search:)
 
hi there, I think you are taking this too much to heart, if you need to drive to get to her yard, I can understand her reluctance, you have to be prepared to demonstrate how reliable you are and how you intend to get to and fro, it is important you get on with your employer, so not all jobs are going to suit you.
Employers don't wan't to hear all about your private life when they talk to you, they just need to know you will turn up come hell or high water.
Get someone to help you with the c.v. and do a spellcheck, you can learn to do this using any word processing package.
 
MrsD123 said:
hi there, I think you are taking this too much to heart, if you need to drive to get to her yard, I can understand her reluctance, you have to be prepared to demonstrate how reliable you are and how you intend to get to and fro, it is important you get on with your employer, so not all jobs are going to suit you.
Employers don't wan't to hear all about your private life when they talk to you, they just need to know you will turn up come hell or high water.
Get someone to help you with the c.v. and do a spellcheck, you can learn to do this using any word processing package.
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So well said. It is an employers market, get on and do the job. There will always be someone else that will!
 
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