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Skylla is a pretty black and white thinker, she either likes it and is super up for it or she doesn't like it full stop!

An example of this is a bitting clinic I went to with Hilary Vernan. Skylla has always been a little fussy in the contact in every bit I've tried, I had decided it was therefore clearly a schooling issue, it was only findings from the Chiropractic vet that led me to go to the biting clinic. One ride in the bit Hilary suggested and she took the contact and was happy to take it forward and down! Apparently she had just been telling me she didn't like all the other bits lol!

Anyway, first outing of the weekend was on Saturday, down the road for some very low key showjumping. Last time I went no-one else turned up, so we were excited that there were other actual competitors there! First up the 70cm, now although Skylla loves her new bit as she is very confident to take a contact, it isn't very helpful for jumping as she was erm, a touch strong :oops:. However, a nice double clear and somehow we managed to win the jump off! A red jumping rosette on my very own horse :cool:.

Thought maybe we should push ourselves to do the 80cm with fillers and everything 😱. I have no idea why show jumps freak me out more than XC ones 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️, but there you go 80cm looks big currently 😂. However, Skylla was awesome and jumped her socks off for another double clear (just!) and second place :cool:.

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80cm round:

Then after the highs of Saturday it was back to earth with a bump for our first attempt at express eventing on Sunday!

SJ looked fine after the confidence of Saturday and XC, had a couple of tricky fences, but otherwise looked ok.

Warmed up and Skylla felt great, reasonably polite (I’d put the flash back on). Into the showjumping, and she wanted to look at everything that was going on 🤦🏼‍♀️, however the fences were kind. Rolled a pole off 6, as she was way too complacent and I didn’t insist on getting her back on her hocks enough. Then came round to the double disunited and distracted, so unsurprisingly she stopped 🤦🏼‍♀️. Jumped fine the second time and finished well!


Onto the XC, and there were a few issues out on course, so we had a little time to get our breath back and have a wee (Skylla not me 😂). Set off and bless Skylla, she isn’t great with other horses and one finishing meant she just took her eyes off two (scary red dragon), so we wobbled to a stop, snorted at it and then circled and popped it.


Legged it off with me a little 🤦🏼‍♀️ to 3 and massively unlucky that another horse galloped past just as we got to the fence and Skylla downed tools at a horse passing her that close. Her personal space issues meant she just couldn’t deal with that and jump! Jumped on the third attempt but she was super rattled by this point and carted me to four, where she didn’t read it as she was just running, stopped and tried to run out and I may have parted company 🤦🏼‍♀️.

Lovely fence judge said I could get back on and continue, so the couple of mins this took just gave Skylla chance to calm down. Back on she popped 4.
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Then there was a lovely stretch to settle into a rhythm before 5, a log with a drop landing and one stride to a small box fence. Flew over, had a gallop to 6 another small log. 7 a slightly bigger log she whizzed over, another long stretch before the small corner (when we came to school I might have jumped the open corner as I wasn’t sure what would be in the class 😂🙈). 9 was a rail with a slight drop in landing, then it was the ditch complex, tiny peek before bouncing through. 11 was a lovely roll top to 12 a house. 13 she finally realised the pressure on the reins meant slow down 😂, before bouncing up and down the bank, before another roll top at 14, slightly scary here as the landing side ran away downhill quite steeply so glad she came back to me to turn right!

Another nice canter stretch before walking down the steep slope to the water, splashed through and jumped the small blue fence out. 16 was a trakehner, which Skylla had zero issues at, same with the chair fence before a gallop to the finish over a box with hedge at the top ☺️.
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So a frustrating start of the day, but we (me) learnt loads!!! I need to kick myself to ride every fence with enough attention, she is green and getting distracted on her part is expected! Plus more work on her personal space issues with other horses, she was genuinely, massively upset at the other horse coming that close at speed and needs a better reaction than ‘sod that I’m out’ 😂🙈.

We've another hunter trials next weekend, so I'm hoping it will be a more confident day for her without other horses being too close!
 
Its all a learning experience at this stage. Sometimes when I take Bobbie out I come home and kick myself about what I should and shouldnt have done. But so long as you are getting round and finishing with a happy horse then its a win in my book :D
 
Its all a learning experience at this stage. Sometimes when I take Bobbie out I come home and kick myself about what I should and shouldnt have done. But so long as you are getting round and finishing with a happy horse then its a win in my book :D

You’re right and Skylla did finish really well!

I think it was just a surprise issue that we’d not really thought about, though hopefully at other venues other horses won’t be quite as close 🙈.
 
Great pics. Well I've learned my lesson with bitting, if anyone says "well all my horses have gone well in X" I have to restrain myself. some horses just are more difficult to bit than others and finding something they are happy in just makes such a bloody difference.
 
Great pics. Well I've learned my lesson with bitting, if anyone says "well all my horses have gone well in X" I have to restrain myself. some horses just are more difficult to bit than others and finding something they are happy in just makes such a bloody difference.

Definitely, Skylla is so sensitive she’s never afraid of telling me she doesn’t like something 🙈.
 
With really reactive ones, I wear L plates in a BE number bib front and back. It makes people give you more space. Some people smile with you, bless'em. Some people laugh at you, sod'em. It works for me. Just remember to take them off before you go in the ring!

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With really reactive ones, I wear L plates in a BE number bib front and back. It makes people give you more space. Some people smile with you, bless'em. Some people laugh at you, sod'em. It works for me. Just remember to take them off before you go in the ring!

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Ah, you were on course..... Ignore this then!
 
Haha yes it was on the course, though love your suggestion! Warm ups I just keep aware and she’s improving every time out.

However, I didn’t quite expect her to be so distracted in the showjumping (quite a vocal rider starting xc just kept taking her attention). Then actually on course xc, she was really worried about the other horses galloping past in the ‘wrong’ direction...
 
Dabs used to be very reactive to other horses passing close by at speed, and particularly to other horses jumping near him. At the time there was a young pony clubber at the yard who hacked to some rallies nearby, so I used to hack with her (saved her mum escorting her on foot) and then park him up by the side of the arena to watch usually one or two lessons of ponies bobbing around jumping. Gradually I parked him closer and closer until he would stand alongside the fence and just nod off. It was opportunistic rather than planned training but it did the trick with him, so maybe you could set up something similar.

Congrats on the outings. The express eventing actually sounds really positive in the main. Great that you could calm her down and get her back on side after a shaky start.
 
Dabs used to be very reactive to other horses passing close by at speed, and particularly to other horses jumping near him. At the time there was a young pony clubber at the yard who hacked to some rallies nearby, so I used to hack with her (saved her mum escorting her on foot) and then park him up by the side of the arena to watch usually one or two lessons of ponies bobbing around jumping. Gradually I parked him closer and closer until he would stand alongside the fence and just nod off. It was opportunistic rather than planned training but it did the trick with him, so maybe you could set up something similar.

Congrats on the outings. The express eventing actually sounds really positive in the main. Great that you could calm her down and get her back on side after a shaky start.

Hmm no useful pony clubbers on the yard, but I can try and enlist the fellow liveries to help!

Thank you, I’m trying to keep hold of the positives of the day!
 
Do you have a sensible horse to help. With my friends horse she lunged him while I was riding on a larger circle round her. Building up to both of the horses cantering and my circle getting smaller. Then I would go away and come back etc. We also did this with me circling my arms or doing traditions as he approached. He is so much better now. The horse I rode was very good and didn't react to any of his explosions
 
Do you have a sensible horse to help. With my friends horse she lunged him while I was riding on a larger circle round her. Building up to both of the horses cantering and my circle getting smaller. Then I would go away and come back etc. We also did this with me circling my arms or doing traditions as he approached. He is so much better now. The horse I rode was very good and didn't react to any of his explosions

Yeah I have done some of that and she is getting much better in general for warm-ups and schooling. I think it was the added pressure of galloping and jumping that caused such a regression? maybe I need to tailor the training now to jumping her with another sensible horse galloping past, gradually bringing it closer.

Thanks, have a plan of action I can try now!
 
Going to bump this, anyone any advice on getting a horse more confident with others passing?

Mine was like this! He’s always been a bit of a startler when something happens behind him, gets his knickers in a twist about it.

Took him xc schooling and stood him in the middle of the water, let him watch my friends jump their horses into the water a few times then turned him away from it and asked him to stand whilst they jumped and whizzed around, he got a little worried but soon settled. Stood him by the bigger jumps and had friends canter past him whilst they jumped. And when he was cool with that got him doing stuff and had friends canter past and do their own thing while keeping him concentrated on me. He was totally used to them an hour in.

The real test was when a little (but fantastic) rider lost control of her pony and went galloping around the whole site, she stayed on just couldn’t stop bless her. He was a little worried but didn’t do anything silly. That was right at the end of our session too so I’m glad we’d had the chance to get used to other horses doing as they pleased.

Could you make it such a usual occurrence for her that horses galloping around nearby is totally boring? Build it up gradually but just keep doing it. Congrats on the outing sounds like you had a good time despite the tumble! :)
 
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