All the gear....No idea

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Can someone please tell me how the hell you deal with the "all the gear...no idea" kind of horse owner?

New people have arrived on our very small yard at the weekend, since then nothing but chaos has reigned. There is going to be an accident and knowing my luck it will happen to my horse!
HELP
 
Fiona_C said:
Can someone please tell me how the hell you deal with the "all the gear...no idea" kind of horse owner?

New people have arrived on our very small yard at the weekend, since then nothing but chaos has reigned. There is going to be an accident and knowing my luck it will happen to my horse!
HELP
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You speak quietly to your YO - and they in turn will have a word with the new arrivals.
 
YO is an elderly gentleman who is only interested in getting his money every month, doesn't get involved with the day to day running. As soon as there is a problem you don't see him for dust, however, rent day, he is there!
I am viewing a yard this weekend thankfully, but for the next couple of days, hope I can keep my already short fuse from exploding!
 
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amymay said:
You speak quietly to your YO - and they in turn will have a word with the new arrivals.
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This ^^

It also depends on the people. Are they new to horses and willing to learn? If so talk to them. I learn something new all the time and am grateful when people tell me things I am doing wrong/ could do better as long as they do it in a nice way
 
Depends on how you define 'all the gear no idea'. If you just mean novices who are keen to learn but are lucky enough to have the budget for expensive non-essentials, I'd treat them like any other keen novice. If you mean people who buy all the non- important stuff at the expense of more vital things, then if its the horses needs who suffered I'd speak to yo. If they are the type to buy expensive equipment to try & improve themselves at the expense of training, I'd wait till I was on friendly terms & kind of hint cheap kit & a trainer would do more good. If you mean novices who think buying enough stuff makes them experienced & they have nothing to learn, I would just quietly laugh at their arrogance. Fwiw, I usually define 'all the gear & no idea' as one of the last two, not just someone lacking experience who happens to be able to afford nice things.
 
Was going to say, look for another yard, but you already are. Its times like these when having a good YO is important to ensure that people don't put other horses and people at risk.

In the meantime, if possible, I'd try and be around when they are there so that you can ensure your horse is not put at risk- and bring a hip flask to lower your blood pressure.

You have my sympathy.:D
 
Littlelegs said:
Depends on how you define 'all the gear no idea'. If you just mean novices who are keen to learn but are lucky enough to have the budget for expensive non-essentials, I'd treat them like any other keen novice..
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Yes, I did wonder this myself ... sorry OP you did not specify what they were doing wrong exactly ;-)
 
As defined above, YO is elderly and not interested in day to day running.

The mother apparently had horses when she was younger, the daughter has had a couple I believe. I have attempted to speak to them regarding potential scenarios, to no avail.

Their pony is currently sharing the paddock that my horse is in until they get their area sectioned off at the weekend, I have asked them very politely today if I could bring their pony in early as I have to be at work early and don't finish until 10pm and wanted to bring mine in, their reply...NO!
My stable/shelter/storage area are all in the paddock, hence why I made my request. Their stable is outside the paddocks. They appear to be unable to understand that their pony being in the paddock will stress mine out (ex racer). Granted the mother offered to bring mine in, but he can be funny with new people and to be honest she seems the sort that if anything happened she'd pursue legal. Hence I don't wish to take the risk.
If my husband finishes work early he will sort horse out, otherwise he will have to wait until 10pm.
(that is just an example of my frustration).
 
Fiona_C said:
As defined above, YO is elderly and not interested in day to day running.

The mother apparently had horses when she was younger, the daughter has had a couple I believe. I have attempted to speak to them regarding potential scenarios, to no avail.

Their pony is currently sharing the paddock that my horse is in until they get their area sectioned off at the weekend, I have asked them very politely today if I could bring their pony in early as I have to be at work early and don't finish until 10pm and wanted to bring mine in, their reply...NO!
My stable/shelter/storage area are all in the paddock, hence why I made my request. Their stable is outside the paddocks. They appear to be unable to understand that their pony being in the paddock will stress mine out (ex racer). Granted the mother offered to bring mine in, but he can be funny with new people and to be honest she seems the sort that if anything happened she'd pursue legal. Hence I don't wish to take the risk.
If my husband finishes work early he will sort horse out, otherwise he will have to wait until 10pm.
(that is just an example of my frustration).
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Ok, so whilst she may be a little bit inflexible - the yard set up is not her fault (nor is your horses 'stressy' nature).

I'd simply ask her to pop your horse in the stable when she brings hers in.
 
Fiona_C said:
Their pony is currently sharing the paddock that my horse is in until they get their area sectioned off at the weekend, I have asked them very politely today if I could bring their pony in early as I have to be at work early and don't finish until 10pm and wanted to bring mine in, their reply...NO!
My stable/shelter/storage area are all in the paddock, hence why I made my request. Their stable is outside the paddocks. They appear to be unable to understand that their pony being in the paddock will stress mine out (ex racer). Granted the mother offered to bring mine in, but he can be funny with new people and to be honest she seems the sort that if anything happened she'd pursue legal. Hence I don't wish to take the risk.
If my husband finishes work early he will sort horse out, otherwise he will have to wait until 10pm.
(that is just an example of my frustration).
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Perhaps they have a reason they don't want their pony in early? Or a reason they don't want it handled by other people? It doesn't sound like they are being extremely unreasonable to be honest (since they offered to bring yours in) and that's hardly "all the gear no idea".


x-posts with amymay :o
 
From what you're saying it doesn't sound like a major issue at all, more that you're unhappy accepting new people. Sorry, but this sounds petty to me (maybe there are other issues but you've not mentioned them). She offered to bring your horse in YOU were the one who declined that offer as from what you seem to suggest you anyour OH are the only ones who can handle your horse - sorry, again that comes across as someone being overly precious about their horse! If your horse is dangerous then that's another matter but again that is not her problem and if they are happy for their pony to be left on its own if you bring yours in then again, this is not their fault is it?

I think you need to be more accomodating to be honest, it can't be easy for people moving on to yards with established people there and trying to fit in, especially if others are going to make it difficult for them.
 
TBF, that's probably not the best example to give. Let them bring yours in unless there is someone else on the yard, you'd be happy to let handle your horse.
 
I stopped keeping my horse at those DIY yards where everyone does their own thing on their own schedule, because my horse gets very stressy and unhappy when other horses are moved around, fed, etc. in a manner that doesn't fit with her understanding of "routine." Some horses just don't settle into that sort of thing. It certainly wasn't the fault of the other owners and I would not have expected them to bend over backwards to accommodate my neurotic horse, or accused them of not having a clue.
 
Agree with others. Whilst unfortunate, your stressy horse & the yard set up aren't their fault, or an example of 'all the gear no idea'. I certainly don't have all the gear, but I'd like to think I have an idea. But if I moved to a new yard I wouldn't want mine in early to suit you, I'd simply offer to bring both in at the normal time. They may have equally good reason to want theirs out.
 
I agree too. They are the ones doing things normally, by the sounds of it, you're the one wanting everything changing to suit you, despite it being you that works strange hours, you that has the stressy horse, you that thinks nobody should touch your horse when they offer to help, and you being on the verge of moving anyway... Its only for a day or two - you said the field was being sectioned off at the weekend.

Deep breath, and try and relax!
 
I can see both sides to this - but really it wouldn't hurt them to "bend" a little, (I know they offered to bring OP's horse in) they are the newbies after all! And, it is only for a short while. If I went to a new yard, I wouldn't want to upset someone elses horse.
 
I think I would also be a little bit put out if someone said, "I would like to bring in your horse, but you can't bring in mine." It sounds as if in this case, both parties have said that!
 
the title was supposed to be tongue in cheek. I'm sorry for offending anyone, yes I am probably as stress as the horse at the moment if not more so.
I've taken everything out of all proportion and will now shut up.
Thank you for those that did reply, comments have been taken on board.
 
Fiona_C said:
As defined above, YO is elderly and not interested in day to day running.

The mother apparently had horses when she was younger, the daughter has had a couple I believe. I have attempted to speak to them regarding potential scenarios, to no avail.

Their pony is currently sharing the paddock that my horse is in until they get their area sectioned off at the weekend, I have asked them very politely today if I could bring their pony in early as I have to be at work early and don't finish until 10pm and wanted to bring mine in, their reply...NO!
My stable/shelter/storage area are all in the paddock, hence why I made my request. Their stable is outside the paddocks. They appear to be unable to understand that their pony being in the paddock will stress mine out (ex racer). Granted the mother offered to bring mine in, but he can be funny with new people and to be honest she seems the sort that if anything happened she'd pursue legal. Hence I don't wish to take the risk.
If my husband finishes work early he will sort horse out, otherwise he will have to wait until 10pm.
(that is just an example of my frustration).
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Oh dear - I have to say that this does sound a little bit me, me, me. Not sure why they should automatically comply with your requests and if they don't they are awful. As you said they did offer a compromise but you declined. Perhaps try working together? But as you are moving anyway, hardly seems any point - perhaps they feel this too, I mean why would anyone make an effort to be overly helpful if you are not going to be there long anyway?
 
How do you know your horse will be stressed whilst the pony is out, they will probably talk over the door, pony will no doubt not wander far away from the staled one, and if your horse has already been ut for half the day he should feel settled to be in his nice comfy stable. Bite the bullet and take a chance, sometimes it works out.
 
Fiona_C said:
I've taken everything out of all proportion and will now shut up.
Thank you for those that did reply, comments have been taken on board.
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Don't shut up, just chill and give them a break (unless they've been doing far worse stuff you haven't mentioned - like pulling up ragwort and feeding it to your horse :D ). It's always nice when posters take an outside perspective on a situation well though :)
 
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