Allergy problems in dogs

dozzie

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Just wondering what sort of reaction an allergy would cause in dogs.

Not the pup btw but the older dog. He is licking his feet raw since Hooch died- he is finishing her rations of James Wellbeloved.
 
Diet, household products, pollen - trees, grass, flowers - surface contact with a carpet or flooring surface, a substance he might have picked up on the road or out and about.

It may be an ingredient in the JWB, it did nothing for my itchy boy, and if he is not used to eating it normally.

Also may be due to stress or externalising an internal condition.
 
Have been to the vet 3 times since Hooch died! Two courses of anti bs. I couldnt believe it when he was hopping again today. I am going to try to hammer it with the fuciderm. It has been in different legs too. If it was the same leg I would think foreign body!

He has taken to the pup really well so dont think he is pining but i guess stress could have started it off. I keep the pup in her crate during the day to control her exercise (important with mastiffs) so he is getting rest.
 
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Fuciderm is the steroid cream, right?

Have you tried aloe vera gel, the pure stuff? Or a touch of malaseb shampoo in between the toes?

Were the antibiotics for the licking etc?

Has anything in his routine changed, anything at all, a new rug, vet bed for the puppy etc?
 
My biggest fear is that this sort of thing is going to get much more common, I cannot believe what pet food companies are allowed to get away with in their advertising, it’s disgusting quite frankly. It is my opinion that inappropriate diet has a huge role in modern allergies and diseases especially diabetes, a carnivore should never become diabetic.

Claims on what constitutes a natural food for dogs almost always are directed at highly over processed kibble containing a high percentage of inappropriate foods especially carbohydrates and even the proteins and oils sourced from plant sources. Some proud claims from companies are that their foods a hypoallergenic as they contain no wheat but alarmingly no red MEAT!! So if wheat is to blame who recommended it as a suitable feed in the 1st place and why are they still using cereals, in some cheap diets they form nearly 100% of the diet!!! Dogs are carnivores and my worry is that continued use of this type of food in their regular diet will result in more of these allergies appearing and them being deeper rooted and more violent.

Look what we humans did when we put the cow, a herbivore on a cannibalistic diet of bits of other cows and herbivores, notably sheep. I keep saying we are happy to heed the warnings not to feed horses too much grain, to use their natural fibre as the principle food source, yet when it comes to dogs we are happy to feed them more grain that our horses????? I’d love to know why?

1st Rant for me on new forum, sorry but this is my BIGGEST pet hate!!!
 
Yep fuciderm is steroid cream and has worked in the past. It has usually been linked to a cut on the pad or something obvious but there is nothing to see this time. I have had a good look and it is definitely his pads that are sore. I just cant understand it tbh. He was initially very lame on the other foot and I thought he had got something in it. Thyat cleared up with anti Bs and has been fine. then the other one was bad a few days later. I thought compensatory injury but it cleared up with anti bs and now it is back again. so would think it was something else. Hence wondering about an allergy. Think I will stop the JW just in case.
 
To be fair I know the OP is looking at raw diet if not starting on one already?

I am getting concerned about the whole issue.

As mentioned my dog doesn't seem to be able to cope with anything high protein which is wrong for a dog, it just mystifies me how he could have evolved like that.
There has been a massive change - I had never heard of GSDs being allergic to anything, there were ten years between our last dog and our current ones, but looking on the internet and speaking to people, apparently it is something they are now 'prone' to.

I can imagine how pleased people of my mother's generation were when brands like Winalot first started doing dry food, it was clean, cheap, convenient and she no longer had to mince her own meat or cut her own tripe (spare fridge in the garage, anyone?)

However like human food, there has obviously been cost cutting and bulking out and less and less of the expensive content is in there compared to years gone by.

Sorry for hijack Dozzie! B will get raw at least once or twice a week and we will see how he goes.
 
Sorry people went off on one. My aim is not really to get everyone feeding raw, I know it works with mine and would not feed anything else but there is still a bit of a realist hiding in here somewhere. What I would passionately like to see is an improvement in the lot of the average kibble fed dog. I think the Orijen food is a good move but it’s a high end product of organic ingredients that make it expensive, perhaps a cheaper version of that would assist those wanting convenience, or a good raw provider that can deliver a frozen ready meal package.

I hate seeing these dogs suffering all these conditions, I didn’t see them as a kid but I think their numbers are sadly steadily growing, or I am noticing them more. Trouble is we Brits are a trusting somewhat apathetic lot as a rule, realistically all it would take to improve dog food is for owners to vote with their feet but to do that they have to look deeper in their pockets at least for convenient commercial alternatives.

I don't think it would have been so bad if they hadn't put so much cheap bulk in the food originally it sort of set the whole thing off on the wrong foot as a money saving exercise using up food unfit for humans, in those days when it came out it was like TV dinners so convenient and "scientifically" proven to be balanced and contain everything we needed in our food and our dogs, trouble was we didn't know what was hiding in it!

Now we do know for human food but it's still hidden in dog food and we are still being almost pressured into thinking it’s the best for them with all the new and improved varieties with antioxidants, long life and senior citizen formulas and even some claimed to be Natural foods. Would Cadburys be able to claim that chocolate bars were a natural food for us humans, I think probably not.

Burns for an example one of their feeds for obese diabetic dogs, boasts an oat content of 56% and that is a “superior” brand. I can't help but think why oh why are you still feeding these carnivores in trouble huge amounts of carbs? I see a spangle every week at training, obese and with a horrible coat, I just want to say give him to me for a couple of months he’ll be , much slimmer and not the least bit ravenous and he might well not get the diabetes and heat problems he's heading for! Now I learn there are slimming pills out for dogs !!!!

Vet Ian Billinghurst certainly noticed the start of it in Australia, they were a long way behind the USA in feeding convenience foods but he noticed a change in health problems and longevity that coincided with the introduction.

As a lay person I am not qualified medically but I’ll hedge a common sense bet here and say dogs don’t produce the enzyme Amylase in their saliva that starts to break down starch into sugar in the mouth of omnivores and herbivores, the only way carnivores can deal with sugar in the diet is by relying on their pancreas and so overworking it. A carnivore’s pancreas only usually deals with proteins and fats, with tiny amounts of carbs most of which have been pre digested. This has got to be a huge factor in the conditions we are now seeing including these awful allergies.

As we get further down the generations fed on cereals it looks like it is getting worse and manifesting itself as “X breed” being prone to it dodgy stomachs, itchy skin, poor digestion, which conveniently takes the focus off the diet as a cause. To me it appears to be taking longer for dogs to detox on raw like my Blue or if they are very bad like B they have violent detox I don’t know the answer but I wish the veterinary profession in particular would wake up and smell the bacon! They could really help with this.

Oh and I'd avoid the steroids if you possibly can and try aloe vera, colloidal silver or homoeopathic applications.
 
I was just really wondering if it could be an allergy! LOL! It may not be! He doesnt have any other skin problems. I was really wondering if anyone had had something similar which turned out to be food related.

My aim was to finish the JW with him and then go onto raw rather than mixing the two. He doesnt get huge rations so it has lasted longer than expected. It could of course be pure coincidence that since he was on the JW he has had foot problems. He has had them in the past and as far as I am aware it was not diet related.

My pup is doing well on the raw diet btw! Really pleased with her growth rate and condition. I was planning to put T onto raw once we had finished the JW.

Smiley smiley would have been inserted here if I knew how! :)
 
With you having a new puppy in the house, are you cleaning the floors with anything new and/or more often? Sorry to state the obvious if you have already thought of this, but with it being his feet most affected was the first thing that sprang to mind...
 
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