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I have been feeding this for about 3 months now to my 10 yr old TB. He seems to have chilled out quite a lot on it. However due to my location (Channel Islands) none of our feed merchants stock it so I have to get it shipped over which is getting really expensive!! and looking ahead to winter I am possibly going to have to spend twice as much on hay as last year due to price increases so I need to try and make some savings somewhere ??

I have looked into feeding straights but can't get hold of them all over here either most of our feed places stock all the major brands e/g spillers, Dengie.

ATM he is on Lucie nuts, Ruff stuff & speedi beet and he is perhaps more on the lean side than I would like but being a TB & ex racer I have to be careful what I put into him as he is quite sensitive to mollasses, sugar etc so does anyone have any suggestions ??

Thanks
 
Dengie Alfalfa Nuts
Alfa A Oil

Neither of which you should have any trouble getting hold of... :)

If you are really strict about Molasses, don't try Speedi Beet's cousin Alfa Beet, they started putting molasses in it for some reason?
 
Alfalfa is not heating in itself - the odd horse reacts to it but it is thought that it is a particular protein in it, and if your horse has been okay on alfalfa so far then you'll be fine. High levels of protein are not heating.
 
PennyJ said:
Dengie Alfalfa Nuts
Alfa A Oil

Neither of which you should have any trouble getting hold of... :)

If you are really strict about Molasses, don't try Speedi Beet's cousin Alfa Beet, they started putting molasses in it for some reason?
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Snap, I was going to say this, Alfalfa nuts are great, don't forget that if using a large stubbs scoup, 1 scoop is equiv to approx
4 scoops of the Alfa chaff's in weight, my horse was on Alfa A Lite but went off it as the chop when too long, he has a stubbs scoop in the evening, soaked and half that in the morning, is muzzled when turned out, will start to give speedibeet in a couple of weeks.

Interesting about the alfa beet, wonder if the lami trust knows this as it is recommended by them
 
Horseback Rider said:
Thanks Penny J

I will definitly be sticking to speedi beet.

Is Alf Alfa heating at all ?
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The Lucie nuts you are feeding at present are made from alfalfa (another name for lucerne)! Some of the Dengie range are molassed, but the Alfa A Oil and Alfalfa pellets are not. So if your horse is not heated up by Lucie nuts then he is unlikely to be heated up by Alfa A Oil or Alfalfa pellets.
 
I give my lad Alfalfa nuts in autumn/winter when he's working hard. He's usually on veteran chaff (not a veteran but it's low molasses) and balancer but I boost it up with soaked alfalfa pellets to keep his weight up. A bag lasts me ages because it bulks up and he loves it!! I buy Dengie pellets under £10 a bag.
 
You can use D&H Just Grass - it is a bit more in energy and calories than Ruff Stuff but still is a pure grass only product. It is the same feed value as SS Just Grass when I checked last.

I do feed speedibeet to my two as it agrees with them.
 
TGM said:
The Lucie nuts you are feeding at present are made from alfalfa (another name for lucerne)! Some of the Dengie range are molassed, but the Alfa A Oil and Alfalfa pellets are not. So if your horse is not heated up by Lucie nuts then he is unlikely to be heated up by Alfa A Oil or Alfalfa pellets.
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Are you sure the Alfa A Oil are not mollassed, when I spoke to Dengie they said they all had some molasses just different amounts except the molasses free range obviously, the only thing she said wasn't molassed was the Alfalfa Pellets as you have said, I only queried it because I was finding out about Alfa A Lite, my horse went off the last bag cos the chop was too long, she said even that is lightly molassed
 
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