Am cross....Parelli...

I think its a bit dodgy for people here to be slagging the idea off so badly when I bet most dont even know what Parelli is really about. I dont either, so I cant say either way really. I respect what they do and think it can probably be good fun for horse & owner if done properly. However, I also think some people do parelli badly (like those mentioned who are walked over by their horses). I know someone who does it in a big way and her horse is amazingly well behaved and does really practical things like load itself into the trailer on its own etc. You can of course teach these things in other ways (like clicker training etc.) but I think parelli has its uses.

I was going to go and try a day of it last year but it was too bloody expensive! I think that Pat Parelli (and whoever else teaches Parelli) is asking way too much money for this. If this really is a kind method, you'd think they'd want lots of horse owners to do it and thus make it cheaper for everyone to have a go. I dont have the time for it because Id rather be riding, but each to their own.

I do agree, sometimes they're attitude is crap! I think us non-parelli owners can develop a decent bond with our horses anyway!
 
i dont think its the idea being slagged off, its their attitude and the way they are putting others down
 
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I strongly suspect that to be able to post anything on one of these sites you are required to spend money and 'join' first.

Will give it a go though.

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Just as I thought....monthly subscription required.

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Which site did you try? The Kelly Marks/Intelligent Horsemanship site is free and you don't need to be a member to read it (it's not all about Parelli though). Methods are openly challenged - I think some of the ideas are very useful and practical (common sense in a box), but there are good and not so good of everything and lots of people seem blinkered to one method and it gets a bit cult like.

Parelli isn't something I do, but it's interesting to read and see what different methods are all about so you can weigh up the pros and cons.
 
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Just remember peeps that the reason none of us will ever have 'that' special bond with our horses is that the work we do with them doesn't preserve their dignity....
We need dangly rope reins, rope belts and carrot sticks for that!

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aah, but they must be very special rope reins and rope belts because, God knows, they are incredibly expensive
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maybe its magic rope???
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Actually, I didn't write that PF!
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I know
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'Tis the sort of thing I would write though, which is why I quoted it, instead of scribbling something myself!
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I was agreeing with your agreement
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thats really harsh
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ive had my lad 20 years and only wish id been able to build up a special bond with him over this time , sigh

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I think DD knows me well enough to take it.

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It's OK, I know she will never love me in that 'special' way.
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I love my horse very much, that's why I WON'T do Parelli with him. I have studied the principles of it and even went on a course with my old horse, but once I began to look more deeply into it I realised I didn't agree with it in many ways and that it contradicts other methods of my horses training so would only confuse and upset him. I do ue a few of their techniques (altered slightly) for certain situations but I would never become a Parelli devotee as I feel some of the methods are unfair on the horse.
 
I saw the demo today, and he said 'if you don't really love your horse, don't come, because our message will drive you mad.'
and some one off to my left shouted 'it does'.
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it seems to me like a useful tool to try to explain instinctive horsemanship to someone who has never before been around horses, like delia smith is a good cookbook for someone who grew up in a house where an egg was never cracked in anger, but frankly, people who have grown up around horses empathise that way with them without the jargon (or the expensive ropes) - who'd have thought a horse goes the way you look, eh? Seem to remember doing that in pony club aged about 6 ......
 
Parelli is also very good for teaching people about anger management and self control, maybe some posters here should try it!
 
At the risk of starting this old argument up again.....Parelli is THE most amazing thing for working cattle horses - I've never seen anything like it.....and I think I may just have one horse special enough to do some of the higher-end aspects of it. Time will tell though.

Anyway getting back to Spaniel's point - yes how very short-sighted of them to say such a silly thing.
 
Ahh you have hit the nail on the head Annie - perhaps that's why I've never been to keen on following the whole shebang of Parelli - I need no anger management ..... and neither do my horses.
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Buuuut, I might, at some time in the future, see if my special guy has what it takes to do some high-end stuff that Parelli has claimed his own.
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Parelli is also very good for teaching people about anger management and self control, maybe some posters here should try it!

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of horses or owners?
 
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Ah but does it give you a sense of humour?
 
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I I suppose its got its place, but mainly for people and horses that lack confidence.


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No No NO. Its for people who lack confidence that have bought a confident horse. After a few months of faffing around confusing the poor thing it will be as anxious as the owner thus giving them a perfect excuse not to ride it.
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I hadn't seen any till I saw the programme on Horse channel yesterday, showing a 'level 3' person riding her horse through various 'puzzles'. I can't say I was that impressed. Her horse looked decidedly uncomfortable at times, and there was nothing that couldn't be achieved through normal training and riding. The horse was obviously well-trained to move away from the leg and that was how she rode without reins - getting the horse to rein back consisted of booting it repeatedly high on its shoulder. Getting the horse to rein-back without reins or legs or seat or anything consisted of violently swishing two sticks right in its face so the horse threw its head up and backed off to avoid being smacked by them.

Out of all 4 challenges I could have done 3 of them without any special preparation or training on my pony when I was 14 as he was responsive to seat/weight/leg: lead between 2 tables to mount (I don't get what was meant to be hard about that?), canter then halt without reins, then bend around cones at a walk without reins. She also had to bounce a large ball while riding and I'd give myself an 80% of that. The only part I couldn't have done was the rein-back after the canter without reins, but give me a couple of days and I'm sure I could have trained him to go back from being booted on the shoulder too.

The horse also moved away from where it was tapped with a stick - pretty basic stuff I'd have thought. Tap on neck and it turned away - same effect as neckreining. Or ask any developing world kid with donkey how they steer.
Any horse and rider that have decent communication could have done those things.
 
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