Am I asking too much of my horse?

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I've been gradually bringing my horse back into ‘full work’ over the past few weeks. We’re not starting from ground zero - he was kept ticking over through winter with a couple of flatwork sessions, a couple of hacks, and a quick lunge each week. I’ve been increasing his workload to build his fitness ready to get out to some competitions and to help him shed some winter flab. 😳 (That said, he’s not hugely overweight to the point where it affects his work, more that I’d like to shift the hay belly and get him a bit leaner).

I’ve been careful to build his workload gradually. He has always worked six days a week, but I’ve slowly increased the intensity of each session. Even so, I don’t feel like he’s doing an excessive amount- but by Sunday this last week (his sixth workday), he seems genuinely exhausted. He’s not a lazy horse, he’s usually very forward and sharp, and I would often prefer a little LESS energy… but obviously I do not want to work him into the ground, so when he starts backing off the leg and feeling “meh,” I take it as a clear sign that he’s had enough and call it a day.

I try to keep his work as varied as possible and I aim to balance strength and conditioning work with some easy, stretchy hacks. But this week, after two days of hacking (which I consider rest days), he still felt knackered on day three, when we were supposed to do canter work and I had to cut the session short because he was clearly tired and wasn’t going to produce any meaningful work.

I’d love some thoughts on his workload- does it sound reasonable, or should I be adjusting something? I know I need to include more canter work, but canter is his most challenging gait, and we’re working hard to improve it, so hammering away at him yesterday when he was knackered would have been counterproductive. Any advice?

To add - we don't have off-road hacking but I do normally try to box him somewhere for a canter once a week, but life has got in the way recently so we've been limited to cantering in the school - albeit we are lucky enough to have a 40 x 60 to work in so I'm not asking him to collect at all.

Last 2 weeks:
  • Monday - Warm up on the lunge in Equicore bands (10 mins walk, 4 mins trot) then 40 mins flatwork under saddle (with lots of walk breaks) – Equilab tracked 12 mins of trot and 4 mins canter for ridden work.
  • Tuesday - 3 miles hack for 45 mins, brisk walk.
  • Wednesday - 3 miles hack for 40 mins, mostly brisk walk with 5 mins of trotting up hills.
  • Thursday – Day off
  • Friday - 20 mins on Water Treadmill with incline (I should add, he's been going weekly for over a year and does not find this particularly hard any more)
  • Saturday – 45 minute polework clinic, although only around 20 mins actually working over poles
  • Sunday - 30 mins gridwork session – around 10 mins actual jumping plus warm up/cool down
  • Monday – Day off
  • Tuesday - Warm up on the lunge in Equicore bands (10 mins walk, 6 mins trot) & then 15 mins lunge (15 mins in trot, no gadgets, with 5 mins on each rein over trot poles)
  • Wednesday – 20 mins on Water Treadmill with incline
  • Thursday - Warm up on the lunge in Equicore bands (10 mins walk, 6 mins trot) then 45 mins flatwork under saddle (with lots of walk breaks) – Equilab tracked 12 mins of trot and 7 mins canter for ridden work – we only did so much as he was a keen bean and kept taking off with me so decided if he wanted to canter off with me, we would just work in canter then! :rolleyes:
  • Friday – 3 miles hack for 40 mins, mostly brisk walk with 5 mins of trotting up hills.
  • Saturday – Relaxed hack in company, 5 miles taking 90 mins pretty much all walk.
  • Sunday - 3 miles hack for 45 mins, mostly brisk walk, couple of short trots. Popped in the school when we got back for 15 mins but cut session short as horse seemed pooped!
 
The fact he gets lazier over the more days working could indicate a physical problem and the laziness is actually pain or soreness.

In terms of work load, it’s rather light with not much stamina built in. But does your horse need to be fit right now? Or reading what you have said, is it about slow and steady building muscle? You mention he struggles with canter is that a lack of muscle issue? Presuming he isn’t overweight.

Correct walk work into the bridle at a good pace, hill work and pole work (in hand and under saddle) might be more beneficial than getting more fast work in.

40 minutes to do 3 miles including trotting for 5 minutes (which obviously covers a lot more ground!) indicates your walk work may be a little slow and needs more purpose.

I would increase your hack lengths considerably and work on that before upping the proportion of fast work. The impact of fast work on a horse not using itself properly is not going to be positive.
 
The fact he gets lazier over the more days working could indicate a physical problem and the laziness is actually pain or soreness.

In terms of work load, it’s rather light with not much stamina built in. But does your horse need to be fit right now? Or reading what you have said, is it about slow and steady building muscle? You mention he struggles with canter is that a lack of muscle issue? Presuming he isn’t overweight.

Correct walk work into the bridle at a good pace, hill work and pole work (in hand and under saddle) might be more beneficial than getting more fast work in.

40 minutes to do 3 miles including trotting for 5 minutes (which obviously covers a lot more ground!) indicates your walk work may be a little slow and needs more purpose.

I would increase your hack lengths considerably and work on that before upping the proportion of fast work. The impact of fast work on a horse not using itself properly is not going to be positive.

I'm 99% sure it's not pain as he was signed off by the vet just a few weeks ago as happily sound, and saw the physio 2 weeks ago who was also happy with him - but I wouldn't rule out muscle soreness/DOMs with the increased work which is my concern and why I try to break it up with hacking.

He will hopefully start eventing in a couple of months which is why he needs to be fitter and I need to increase his canter work ideally, he's a buzzy horse who will run on adrenaline so I'm very wary of fatigue/injury by taking him out before he is full fit enough.

He walks out at a good pace, as in nobody we hack with can keep up with us! 🙈 40 mins to be fair is my tracked time which includes standing and waiting for cars to pass, and getting off back at the yard. His average speed in walk according to Equilab is 6.5mph.

His canter is a work in progress and a schooling issue, he's naturally on the forehand and a big lad with a huge stride so balancing and being uphill in canter is hard for him - it's a strength issue and he is improving but I'm cautious not to overcook it and try to focus on quality over quantity.
 
What did he have wrong that meant the vet signed him off?
I took him in for a performance work-up as a precautionary measure as I was concerned his issues balancing in canter might be physical rather than just a schooling/strength issue - we did a full work up, scans and x-rays, blocked a few different areas to see if it made any difference, and found nothing. Vet signed him off as happy that he was perfectly sound and just needing to build more strength.
 
I took him in for a performance work-up as a precautionary measure as I was concerned his issues balancing in canter might be physical rather than just a schooling/strength issue - we did a full work up, scans and x-rays, blocked a few different areas to see if it made any difference, and found nothing. Vet signed him off as happy that he was perfectly sound and just needing to build more strength.

That's interesting. I had similar with my horse. My vet signed her off as sound and crack on. I carried on working her, she still struggled and I had a niggle (as you did) I then pushed for more x-rays and we found changes to her neck and other issues yet she was not ever lame. She was behind the leg, became tired easily, I was getting her fit to do some BE80s.

He might be in a small amount of pain somewhere but you haven't found where yet. Did they x-ray his neck? and have you done a bute trial?
 
Are you feeding him plenty ?
He gets grass, ad-lib hay, and Topspec Comprehensive. I don't give him anything else as he is a good doer and also naturally pretty sharp. I will of course feed him if he needs it, you have an interesting point that he is slowly dropping weight (in a good way) so will be in a calorie deficit at the moment which will be affecting his energy levels. 🤓
 
That's interesting. I had similar with my horse. My vet signed her off as sound and crack on. I carried on working her, she still struggled and I had a niggle (as you did) I then pushed for more x-rays and we found changes to her neck and other issues yet she was not ever lame. She was behind the leg, became tired easily, I was getting her fit to do some BE80s.

He might be in a small amount of pain somewhere but you haven't found where yet. Did they x-ray his neck? and have you done a bute trial?
We x-rayed pretty much everything! He's not generally behind my leg, which is why when he does get like that I will immediately end a session as he's clearly tired. The first 5 days of working he's spot on, then 6th day he just flags a bit. Interesting that you wouldn't consider hacking a rest day, this is what I have been wondering, if I'm underestimating what I'm asking of him a bit.
 
If this is a recent thing, could he have picked up a virus anywhere?
Recent as in since I upped his work a bit, given a day or 2 off he is back to his normal springy self. I guess I'm just second guessing myself whether I am asking too much too soon, but also I do need to increase his work and don't feel he is doing THAT much. But of course I might be wrong, hence asking 🙈
 
I had a horse who would get a little tired and he was a little anaemic so had to get heamotonic for awhile then perfect
Thank you - do you think something like Red Cell would help? I always used to give it to ones that flagged a bit during seasonal coat changes. I think my vet will cry if I turn back up on her doorstep again 😄
 
Thank you - do you think something like Red Cell would help? I always used to give it to ones that flagged a bit during seasonal coat changes. I think my vet will cry if I turn back up on her doorstep again 😄
Pretty sure I used this
But I got bloods done and vet told me to put him on that after results
He was slightly anaemic and enzymes slightly raised
Everything was just a little bit so was only when he was exercising he would get tired
 
Thank you - do you think something like Red Cell would help? I always used to give it to ones that flagged a bit during seasonal coat changes. I think my vet will cry if I turn back up on her doorstep again 😄
Iron deficiency anaemia in horses is quite rare and iron is highly available in feedstuffs already. Most horses need less, not more.

 
I would consider a 40 minute walking hack to be no work of note on that day. It certainly doesn't sound like an excessive schedule for a sound horse in consistent work.

One of mine had issues building fitness, which turned out to be due to underlying issues.
Thank you, that's good to know I'm not doing too much. I think he has plateaued a bit fitness wise after not doing too much over winter and being a bit of a handful, and I probably just need to push on a bit. He's just one of those that generally I spend half an hour trying to contain his enthusiasm, so I'm not used to him being.. well... 'rideable' 🙈 If it was my mare I wouldn't bat an eyelid as she is much more 'energy efficient' 😄
 
There is nothing wrong with his workload.
If this flatness is out of character then there is likely to be something wrong with him.
In no particular order the following are some of the things that can make them ‘tired’
Muscle disorders
Bloods off
Infection
Orthopedic pain
Wind issues
Lami
Probably others too!

The first thing I’d do is run a full blood profile.
 
I would revisit his feeding.
I have a pony that needs to be kept slim, but is expected to work.
She's on maintenance feed, but I do add spillers stamina cubes when the workload increases.
This gives her enough oomph without being silly, but doesn't pile the weight on.
 
Food or worms if there is nothing physical wrong would be my first places to check. A regularly wormed horse can still carry a worm burden - tape or otherwise.

If the comparison helps, my herd have been in work one week on one week off all winter. That was a couple of hour long faster (some canter mostly speedy trot) hacks and 3 schooling sessions of max 30min.
Every other week. One had 2.5 months off turned away with playful friends.

All can happily hack now for an hour and a half - come back tired but ‘good’ tired not overly exhausted. All can go for a speedy 30min hack of almost all trot/canter (little Welsh A went twice today and was absolutely fine, just a little warm!). They can hold canter for a decent stretch comfortably up a hill, and hop logs etc as a matter of course without difficulty. They are getting fitter, coats are shiny, energy is building. Just need to finish losing the winter coats!
 
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