am i being unreasonable? storage for liveries

Glad I am not being unreasonable. Just to clarify, this livery was here already before I took over

I might sound harsh, but its your yard now and your rules, if she doesnt like it tough:p
 
charlie76 said:
Glad I am not being unreasonable. Just to clarify, this livery was here already before I took over
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Go for it and dont take any crap ;) If she says she has nowhere else to keep the overspill give her a leaflet for a storage facility. I was looking at one recently and the prices were really quite reasonable :)
 
As someone who doesn't have a lot stuff I've always resented having to put up with my neat well orgainised space to encroached on by horders who pay exactly the same livery as me. The best arrangement for space management I've come across was the yard were everyone got a standard euro pallet (1mx1m) of floor space per horse - you could go as high as the ceiling but weren't allows to spread in any other direction - perfectly fair and everyone knew where they stood.
 
If you have a notice board I would maybe post some new yard rules on storage that are now part of livery contract and give them a while to agree. Sounds like everyone will, and then tackle the naughty step girl as you will be on very firm ground.
 
I was going to say you aren't being unreasonable as long as the rules were made clear before she arrived, but now you've added that she was already there. So whether you're being unreasonable now depends on what the deal was before you arrived and what you said when you took over really.

If it's always been clear what space she's allowed and she's flouting that then she hasn't a leg to stand on. If it's previously been ok or has been a grey area a sudden rule change could be construed at unreasonable. But, end of the day, it's your place and your rules go so she'll have to like it or lump it!
 
Our tack room changes all the time! Everytime a new livery comes, we have to have a jiggle round to fit everything in. We all have a cupboard each and all of our tack is kept at the bottom end. Some people have bigger cupboards than others, but people just work around each other I have a small cupboard and it is nowhere near full :rolleyes:Bigger things like trunks are put in the rug room. All our feed is kept in the feed room, which helps a lot as the feed and tack wouldn't all fit in one room.

I wouldnt have a problem with anyone using more space unless they were taking the p***
 
I'm not sure about the rest of it but I do think she's being unreasonable by refusing to stack the boxes, if she continually needs stuff out of all of them then they should be repacked in a more practical fashion so that all the stuff she needs regularly is in the top one.

On the other hand I can see why she doesn't want everyone else's crap piled on top of stuff she needs regular access to.
 
Ditto everyone who has said about stuff being stolen, we don't keep tack at the stables anymore and haven't done for years now, only keep rugs and the essentials there.

I think you can come to a compromise with her, can she invest in some shelves that she can either decant the trunks onto, or just put the trunks on the shelves depending on size? :)

Or just tell her to stick it, your yard, your rules ;)
 
Oooh gosh I'd be in serious trouble :-/ luckily I have my own yard with a 13x10 feed store,40ft haybarn and a 10ft shipping container, but still have half a garage at home for spare tack,rugs,boots etc although that is for 5 horses.

When I was on livery we used to get a 4ft partition across the back of each stable for tack/rugs/feed, and a pallet area in one barn for hay/straw/shavings supplied once a week. Everyone managed, even me! (and I was at home with parents then).
 
If the livery was already there, & is otherwise a good client, could you compromise perhaps? Maybe one of those garden style storage trunks kept outside round a corner out of sight somewhere if there's outdoor space?
 
Nope....not unreasonable at all. I have allocated space outside the front of my stable and the wall next to it as I'm on the end, and my horse is on full livery. I do provide my own feed though, and this is Pure Feed so I only need one bin for everything. The only reason for this is I'd rather not have a potentially fizzy TB fed on the feed I know the YO uses and until very recently I have been feeding High Fibre Haylage whereas now I use the hay that is on site.

We have all been told what our allocated area is, and if we want more we pay more. I probably still have too much, but everything gets used on a weekly basis and the area is always clean, tidy and swept, especially any bits of feed.

The lady in the next stable has lot's of boxes and umpteen feed bins but if she is paying for extra space then to me that's just how it is.

Maybe suggesting a yard 'Tack Sale & Swap' to encourage owners to sell those extra rugs etc. that aren't needed, invite the local horsey community. Another way to keep the area tidy and uniform could be to see if bulk purchasing some form of storage would make it cheap enough for everyone to get some when they join eg. those clear plastic boxes that can be stacked and plastic draws that are about £10 each. Very good for boots, bandages and all the nick nacks horses need! Even better is those green plastic garden storage trunks, they make a handy seat after a hard ride.

I'm looking into trying to find an old wooden wardrobe or locker that can be painted and is big enough to hold all of my bits with some hooks/shelves and looks neat and tidy when the door is closed.
 
I'd be screwed as I've collected a ridiculous amount of stuff over the years. I have had a clear out and got rid of a lot via ebay and facebook but thankfully have a garage.

How about a compromise and tell her she could get a small outdoor shed? One of those plastic ones you can get from B&Q? I'd make her pay for it herself but then she can loads of storage all to herself, out the way.
 
I'm a DIY only YO; and my livery has her own tack room, plus plenty of room for storing hay, her own space for feed bins, plus a place for wheelbarrows/tools, space to hang rugs etc!!!

But think that if everyone else at OP's yard is happy with the space they've got then this one livery that's causing the problem needs to put up and shut up TBH. If you give one person extra room for their tatt, then you've got to give the same to everyone else, and this is where you could start off a problem situation which just escalates and gets silly.

I'm not sure that allowing her to erect a shed on your property is a good idea either TBH; unless you're prepared to let EVERYONE do the same!!! And you might not want that.

If everyone else is happy with their storage space allocated then TBH I think this livery that's asking for more room should be as politely as possible told that sorry they can't have more space than anyone else for their tatt coz that's not fair. Full stop, end of story.

If she doesn't like it, then she is perfectly at liberty to find somewhere else.

Personally I would NOT let her have any extra room; and what you will have to be careful of OP is that she will go around griping to everyone else, and make them discontented with their lot as well.

I would tell her politely but firmly that she is allowed the same storage space as other liveries on the yard; no more and no less. If this doesn't suit her then she would be as well taking herself elsewhere IMO.
 
I think you have to keep it the same for all of them so the rest don't think she is getting preferential treatment.

For what it's worth, I have nine just now, I have a small tack room with everything, including feed in it. Only stuff that is elsewhere are good saddles, in the house.
Granted, I had two rooms until OH took over one with dead deer, pigeons and ducks! Yes he has a shooting business.....

If she feels the need to have enough stuff for the household cavalry then she needs to keep it at home.

One rule for one, one rule for all. Your the boss, not her. You make the rules.
If she doesn't like it, she can rent a barn somewhere else for her stuff.

P.s I bet she never uses half of it!
 
Objectively you are not being unreasonable, but if you have allowed her to have that much stuff there for more than a few weeks in her mind you will be changing the rules. In her position I would want to be told nicely that you are either now going to enforce your original rules or if these were never set out that you are finding there is too much stuff around, you are concerned about theft etc and all liveries are going to have to keep stuff only in their allocated areas and everything else needs to be kept away from your premises. Give her say 2 weeks to reduce it.

I have very limited room at home (not uncommon now that homes are crammed in far more nowadays) and virtually no storage where I keep my horses (which is my own land, but planning restrictions mean I cannot have more storage), so I do understand the difficulties people face with storing their stuff.

That said your yard your rules and you are not being unreasonable.
 
I moved from my own yard with a 12x12 tack/feed room, 3 stables and a huge barn just for me to a livery yard with very limited storage space. I have a saddle rack and bridle hook plus room for a box on the floor in the tackroom. My grooming kit lives in the stable with gg. Feed - space for 3 bins. Space in a stable for rug storage etc on a pallet. It did make me assess what I had and how much I actually needed. Since I have moved and downjunked considerably I have kept reassessing and now have less stuff than when I first moved. I keep her travelling stuff in a box in the trailer which gets left in the stable when she is in the trailer. I do think most people have far more than needed.
 
I don't think you're being unreasonable either. :)

at my yard, each person is allocated a shelf in the store room and we get a rug rack for each horse plus a bridle/saddle rack (I am the only person with two saddles for each horse so have been allowed to have extra).
we are only allowed two rugs at the yard at a time though so I've taken to folding them up and keeping them on my shelf if I think I'm going to need them.

I'm lucky enough that my dad lets me keep rugs etc at his when they're not being used.
I must have a clean out soon though as my shelf is overflowing :p
 
You sound insecure in your role as a YO. You're the boss, tell her to move her stuff if you have an issue. If not, don't. You define what is reasonable or unreasonable not strangers on a forum, or your liveries for that matter. Save your concerns and energy for bigger issues:)
 
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