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Another one of me whingeing lol. Basically I rent a small three box yard of a local landowner. His friend pays me livery for the third box as I've only got two horses. I've got two sharers at present for my horses due to me being 32weeks pregnant and not riding and pretty much struggling to walk. This "friend" of the landowner went to me that I basically need to poo pick as she seems to be doing it all. This isn't true as I still poo pick twice a week with one of my sharers (completely emptying the fields) and get one of the sharers to push the barrow. I'm struggling but I still do it! She's now demanding a poo picking rota and accusing me and my sharers of not pulling out weight. For one I shouldn't be doing as much as I am now especially with a high risk pregnancy (which she is aware of!). For two I know 110% that it's done atleast three times a week by my sharers. I'm so mad. I don't really want this lady on the land as I'd rather have it to myself (which is what I pay for!!) what do I do? Would you say I was in the wrong to ask her to leave?
 
If she pays you for the box, surely you have the say if she stays or goes.
Give her notice if she is more bother than she's worth.
 
So you do 2x per week, your sharers do 3x per week, and she does the other two days, is that right? Doesn't sound an unreasonable split given you have 2 horses and she has 1. So do you know why she thinks she is doing it all?
 
To be perfectly honest if she cannot understand that you may be unable to do some of the heavier jobs around the yard no that you are 32 weeks pregnant then if you can get rid then do so. Once you have your baby you will need positive helpful people around you and you will need help. No matter what people tell you babies and horses do not mix terribly well. Sorry if I sound negative but that is my experience. So the last thing you need is someone who does not understand life with a newborn and horses. I am glad you have sharers but I would seriously get rid of this person. You want to enjoy your new life and this person just does not seem to "get it"
 
No me and my sharers do it a total four times a week and she's just to do as and when. Never had any set rules or anything. She's causing me stress at a critical time in my life.
 
If shes not doing it herself and trying to make you do more then I would draw up the rota with a 2:1 split on days (maybe you and your sharers do 4 days and she does 2 days) and make it clear that she has to pull her weight on her days. That way you've done exactly what she wants but theres less for you to do
 
I'd be giving notice if she doesn't like your set up as it is. You and your baby are far more important than poo picking!
 
It's unclear to me whether you (and your sharers) do the poo picking twice, three times or four times a week, as you've said all of those amounts in your posts. What I'd say is this, be very careful what you say to the woman, and how you deal with her if she is friends with the landowner. Some people are fine and fair, others aren't and you may be the one who is thrown off.

In your last post you said you (and your sharers) poo pick 4 times a week, then does it matter if you write up a rota for the days you guys already do anyway? Humour her. However, if you guys are only doing 4 days a week that means the woman, who only has one horse, is doing it 3 times a week so maybe that's slightly unfair?
 
Spring Feather said:
It's unclear to me whether you (and your sharers) do the poo picking twice, three times or four times a week, as you've said all of those amounts in your posts. What I'd say is this, be very careful what you say to the woman, and how you deal with her if she is friends with the landowner. Some people are fine and fair, others aren't and you may be the one who is thrown off.

In your last post you said you (and your sharers) poo pick 4 times a week, then does it matter if you write up a rota for the days you guys already do anyway? Humour her. However, if you guys are only doing 4 days a week that means the woman, who only has one horse, is doing it 3 times a week so maybe that's slightly unfair?
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this ^
just draw up a rota and stop stressing yourself
we have just sorted a rota out and we do it one week at a time so ill do one week then someone else the next , then someone else , a week per horse
so if theres three in the field you and your sharers do all of the poo picking for two weeks then she does it all for one week
its so much fairer this way and were all happy everyone is doing there share

there is nothing worse than someone not pulling there weight weather it be you or the other livery , with a rota there is just no arguing about it
or section her horse off in its own paddock and she can do her own as can you
 
Give her a sectioned off piece of field for her one horse and then she can poo pick to her hearts content!
 
3 horses averaging 12 poos in 24 hours = 36poos x7days = 252poos per week divided by 4 sharers = 63. Each livery should collect on average 63 poos per week. If your sharers take on your share that equals approx 94 poos.
 
TandD said:
Give her a sectioned off piece of field for her one horse and then she can poo pick to her hearts content!
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This would be a good option

Alternatively as an average a horse produces half a barrow per day so 7 x 0.5 x 3 is 10.5 barrows a week approx so if your sharer does 3-4 barrows a week and betwen you and your sharers do 7-8 you would be fair
 
webble said:
Having poo picked for two horses for about three months and yes I was anal enough to count (!) my figures are approx correct for two x 15hh
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the girls 11.3hh welsh first pony used to do enough to overfill a large wheel barrow (millions of the little piles) my 16.3hh medium weight mare on the same grazing but more of it used to do less than half of the same wheel barrow.
 
TandD said:
Give her a sectioned off piece of field for her one horse and then she can poo pick to her hearts content!
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This ^^^^

That way she'd have no possible grounds to grouse about her lot and the stress and hassle would be taken right out of the situation; plus you wouldn't be in the difficult situation of possibly falling out with the landowner via his harpie, "friend" or whatever she is - you need to be careful as someone else has said not to ruffle her feathers coz she might well be sitting on his knee....... one never knows with set-ups like this!! - and the last thing you want to do is get kicked off coz you've upset the landowners Bit of Stuff.

Divvy up the field as fairly as possible, then you poo-pick your bit; she poo-picks hers, or not, whatever her preference is. Simples.
 
I can't work out who is doing what regarding times and amounts! However your health and pregnancy are not the responsibility of the livery, if she has a point regarding fairness, sort it out, if not, tell her how it works out, but do not play the pregnaancy/new baby card, as they were your choice.
 
oh the joy of poo picking arguments, everyone I've ever shared a field with doesn't seem to pull their weight, so best thing! keep your horses on their own! no arguments then!

but like others have said, you need to be careful if the other person is friends with the owner, might make it difficult for you! Plus there are lots of people that would kill to private rent a yard, so sure if they asked you to leave they'd replace you very quickly! good luck!
 
I'd draw up a rota and then either yourself, or your sharers do your days. It actually isn't the livery's fault that you're pregnant, or a high risk pregnancy, so I can see why she wouldn't be more lenient to allow for this.....I have poo picked/mucked out through 4 pregnancies with chronic spd, so I'm not being unsympathetic, but I can also see how frustrating it is if it 'appears' as though someone is not pulling their weight.
I either struggled through or paid someone to do my workload (normally the former tbh....I'm a bit of a martyr!)
You *may* find it easier to do it twice daily on your days so it's not such an undertaking when you get round to it?
 
The thing that's annoyed me is she's accused my sharers of not doing it when I know 110% that they do. Yes it was my choice to fall pregnant but when the poo picking is still getting done that is irrelevant. I was merely saying how can someone expect a 32week pregnant person to push a wheelbarrow round a field and yes I am a high risk pregnancy (this is not something I asked for I would have loved a plain sailing pregnancy!) I an not using a "pregnancy card" as you put it. I was pregnant and I spoke to her about my pregnancy before she came.
 
And when I said four times a week we do it, we clear the fields. One Sharer does it twice a week and the other twice a week and I help out with the pair of them on them days too where possible. A rota wouldn't work as both work all different shifts. Sometimes Rotas just can't work in modern day life where things happen etc. I can't understand why she can't just do it two days a week. That way six days a week it's done and yes one day it isn't but if my husband or dad is around I can maybe try to drag them to help me. I just feel mine and my baby's health is more important at this moment in time. Especially when I took the place on to make life easier for me (no set rules like a livery yard on turnout, poo picking etc)
 
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I don't think its reasonable to ask her to leave simply because she's asking for a rota. If you and your sharer's are each doing the amount you've said, it shouldn't make any difference.
Generally pregnancy in itself doesn't stop people doing yard chores although if you have medical issues, just do your times with someone else and get them to push the barrows.
 
Im lost.

It really shouldn't be rocket science to sort out an agreeable rota for everyone. I think asking this livery to leave over this is a bit of a drastic reaction and may have consequences if she leaves under bad terms and goes running to her friend- your landlord, complaining about being given her marching orders.
 
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