Am I going to know when it's the right time? :(

Cedars said:
I know she doesnt self harm, what I mean is i KNOW that hurts.

I am not willing to put her through any more pain. On reading up on symptoms I do not believe it is a parasite so I am not willing to put her through that willy nilly.

Somebody has to stand up for my girl.
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A skin scrape really wont hurt your Chlo. It honestly doesn't compare to self harm, I promise. For a start, a skin scrape doesn't cut through the layer of adipose tissue- it just scrapes off a few layers of skin. Even if it stung a little, it would be no worse than you or I having a vaccine or scratching ourselves on a bit of annoying stuck-out-in-the-way little piece of wood. It wouldn't cause the ache and soreness that several deep cuts will. I'm sure that dogs all over get worse scrapes and cuts charging through bramble patches after squirrels. :)

You need to think what is best for your pupster, and if that means a skin scrape or anything else, then you will have to grit your teeth and give her a biccy afterwards. You'll feel guilty long after she has forgotten all about it. :)
 
Sorry but you need to get a grip and get that poor dog sorted out.
A lot of people have given you good advice.

you need to get back to the vet and speak to them about tests.

As skin scrape will not hurt any more that a booster jab or something

She does need to have tests to find out whats going on.

You appear to have problems yourself which are clouding your judgement.
Thats not fair on the dog.
Put you feelings about the tests to one side and get the poor dog sorted out.
There are lots of treatments for skin problems these days.
Dont think I can add anything else to this thread.
 
katielou said:
I can guarantee a skin scrape will see her in less distress than being red raw for days.

Abe has had 3 done and he.made less fuss than he did with blood test.
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I had Bryony skin scraped and I don't think she even noticed :p

..I also had to have a skin scrape done on my filly a few years ago.. it's different I know... but she didn't seem to care either :)
 
Our original vets were basically going to string her out-we were talking 4months before they even began to test. So I changed today, and spoke to a lovely vet (who has been highly recommended to me).

There are many aspects to what we discussed, he had studied her previous history in depth before I got there. The conclusion is that regardless of the tests we do, there is no positive outcome, and therefore we will be making a decision to call it a day, for Chloe's sake, before she gets to a point where she really suffers.

My darling girl. Xxx
 
Nothing in life is guaranteed, she is 2yrs 5months and you have only tried a few things, as I have said before my Dobes are the same age as yours and if its was me I would move heaven and earth to try everything on offer before calling it a day.

Do you want to live with regret, because one day it will come back and bite you on the bum. I dont wont to be hard on you but I do think you are responding emotionally to this and not with cold logic.

No one wants to see their dog suffer, a skin scrape could provide you with answers but you are afraid to go down this route. Please give it a thought, so many people on here have had similar problems with their dog and provided you with many answers. You come on here for advice why dont you take it, your dog will thank you and a few months down the line you could be grateful that you listened to us.
 
Im sorry its going to be such a sad outcome.
It seems really strange that you have made this choice without having the tests.
I have seen quite a few dogs with skin problems including my own and there are things that can be done.
The tests are nothing compared to the op she has been through.
My own dog has atopic dermatitis and he is 12 and very happy.
Im so sorry for your girl but if it was me I would have had to try a lot more to find out what the problem is.
 
Cedars I dont want to come across as harsh here but really there are countless dogs on here suffering with skin complaints, most are managed, some are still battling for a final treatment that works for them and lots have recovered in full. I cant understand why only a few weeks down the line and without any tests being conducted you would be considering pts right now. It just doesnt make sense. DG is right, think this through very carefully, there is nothing worse in life than looking back and having deep regret that you didnt do/try everything. You dont seem to be in a great place at the moment, make sure your decision is actually in Chloes best interest and that you are not projecting onto her. Seriously I think pts sounds very OTT on the info you have given us.
 
Puppy said:
I'm inclined to agree with the last few posts... :(
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Me too unfortunately :( our girl went through some horrendous times but has levelled out so well and is doing brilliantly and nobody would ever know she had problems now. We moved mountains to find out what was wrong with that dog - she is now a happy 11 year old.
I'm sorry
K x
 
Cedars, I'm sorry, I already regret my above post, I was just a bit shocked (and am horribly emotional today). Please, what did the vet say about Chloe? x
 
Having read both this post and your newer post, I must tell you about our Springador's litter-mate sister. Puppies were the result of an accidental mating of our old gun dog trainer's Springer (gun dog trainer knew he was dying and gave his lab to his daughter and his Springer to the trainer who was taking over) and new gun dog trainer's labrador bitch. We bought one of the pups because we wanted something to remember Stan, our lovely old trainer, by. Initially, we wanted Tarka, a lovely little bitch with a white tip on her tail, but we ended up with our lovely Pippa, About six months ago, my daughter told me that the "accidental" breeder (new trainer) wanted to borrow Pippa for the day to show a friend. I fell for this story, but in fact the breeder was taking her to the vet to be x-rayed for hip dysplasia! Later that day I found out that Tarka, the puppy I originally wanted but was sold/given to the breeder's sister, had such terrible hip problems at only six months of age that she had to be put to sleep and breeder was worried about the other pups and so arranged for them all to be x-rayed at his expense. (Knowing I would have freaked, breeder and my daughter made up the story about wanting to show Pippa to a friend, just to get her away from me.) Breeder's sister was heartbroken; apparently, puppy was so bad that she'd built up massive shoulder muscles and resembled a Staffie! She couldn't play and couldn't even sit comfortably to eat out of a bowl! SO SO sad! Breeder has bought memorial stone which just reads "Tarka" to place where her ashes were scattered. And yes, Pippa has hip dysplasia, too, although vet reckons we should have no problems until she is nine or ten. Lab bitch mother had amazingly low hip score but Springer dad has now been x-rayed and HE has dysplasia, hence the inherited problem. Pippa is a year old now and just moving into the advanced gun dog training class. She's a little star, but I can't imangine how I would have felt if we'd bought Tarka - she was such a darling puppy! My thoughts are with you. x
 
Sorry C, but I just don't get it :(

...it seems like you're not even prepared to try?
I was at my wits end with Bryony and her itching/allergies, search my posts on here. A skin scrape, some tests and a few quid later and she's well on the road to recovery. Not there yet, just much much better than she was and goibg innthe right direction.

I know your circumstances sre different, I just don't understand why you're not exploring all your options.

Apologies if i've missed something vital. X
 
keeperscottage said:
With regard to the itching - I have a very itchy Large Munsterlander. OH is a homeopath and we've just started gaving my Munsterlander sulphur 30C potency, and it's working wonders!
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I was going to say about homeopathic remedies.
Even though I don't understand homeopathy and I am a little sceptical, in a dog so young, I'd be looking into it.

Why are you throwing the towel in so early Cedars?
What has happened to bring you to this decision?

I had an FIV cat, who was fit and healthy and lived life as an indoor cat. When I went away, the girl looking after him let him out. After his taste of freedom, he was forever escaping and I really had a duty to all the other cats around and I took him to be pts. Even now, 10 years on I feel guilty as it really wasn't his time :(.
 
Yeah - I was a homeopathic sceptic too.....one of my Springers fell victim to kennel cough on three occasions and, until recently, she had a more or less persistent intermittent cough. OH treated her with one dose of God knows what....I thought it hadn't worked ......but actually, I haven't heard her cough for over a week now! With homeopathy, you treat "like with like" - ie, too much sulphur will cause skin irritation but the right amount will cure the condition! Weird, I know, but it does appear to work!
 
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