Am I over reacting?

You are not overreacting! Oh my word I would be LIVID. How dare anyone ride your horse without asking, surely that invalidates your/his/her insurance too??

A few weeks ago I went to turn my horse out early evening, only to drive past and see him already in the field. My fury was such that I floored the car, threw it into the car park like it was stolen then jumped out and said to the girl working that day "what the Hell is my horse doing in the field??". Turns out poor kid had put him down there herself, as she'd got confused with the turnouts she had to do. She was sooo apologetic and I felt bad, bless her! But it doesn't change the fact, anyone, but anyone, lays a finger on my horse without my permission (unless in an emergency obviously), they face my wrath!

I am even the same about people giving him treats, he's too damn big to be mugging you.

I would tread carefully as she is such great mates with your YO, but this is your only complication as far as I can see.

Could you have a word with YO?

Furious for you!! Good luck xx
 
I would start thinking about finding a new yard. If they are this irresponsible (YO included) and this stupid and disrespectful not only to you but your horse also then there is no way I'd want to stop.
 
I agree with finding a new yard - I would go absolutely mental if someone rode my horse without permission, (whilst probably uninsured) and then had the cheek to only let you know when you had inconveniently (for her) removed the tack.

Gobsmacked, totally gobsmacked. I would even threaten her with the police, as she is possibly stealing/has stolen your horse whilst this has been going on.
 
id completly hit the roof.... ask them outright "have you rident my horse" (Face to face)

and check their reaction if they are lying etc.....

oh,, then move!
 
I am afraid I would've gone absolutely mental if people were riding my horse without permission! How dare she!
 
Hi

No you are not over reacting.....no one has the right to do anything to your horse without your express permission.

I have had the situation where someone was interfereing with my horse and I knew that even approaching her to ask her to stop would not prevent her doing it again and I would have always been stressing about it. Suffice to say that I moved yards as i didnt have any trust there....it was the best thing I could ever have done...

I have been very fortunate that I have now found another yard which is fantastic :).....it has taken a few moves to get here but oh so worth it! I would suggest that you need to look for another yard ASAP....if it was me I would be moving......
 
Yikes! I'm not surprised you are furious, and I'm sorry you are having all this now just when you thought you had found a decent yard at last!

I would definitely tell the instructor that she can't ride your horse for lessons.

I'd then speak to the YO, giving her the benefit of the doubt, and ask her if anyone has been "borrowing" your tack or riding your horse. There is a chance that the RI has been but has told everyone that she has cleared it with you and the YO will be as furious as you.

If she claims to know nothing then I'd speak to other people on the yard and find out if anyone has seen anything, you might have to be a bit sneaky so that they don't think they are "grassing up" the RI. Maybe ask them how he is going for her as if you know she is riding him......

Once you have confirmation that she has been riding him you can confront her (and the YO if she is in on it).

Then I think it will be a careful weighing up whether you are happy to trust the place with your horse or whether you want to move. It may be ok once you have read the riot act.
 
I don't think you are over reacting at all - I would go BONKERS if somebody so much as thought this - if the explanation is p**s poor, get your boy moved ASAP, which I think it will be. If somebody has just been 'borrowing' your bridle then maybe consider staying but would you want to....
Take care and let us know the outcome x
 
I would be absolutely fuming and put a stop to is straight away.

What would happen if your horse and/or the Riding Instructor where involved in an accident? Your insurance policy would probably be invalidated if someone was riding your horse without permission. The horse does not belong or is not being loaned to the yard owner so their insurance would not cover it in the event of an acident.

If she is riding out another persons horse and being paid then she should be wearing Hi-Vis to the appropriate Profesional European Standard under current Health and Safety guidelines. i.e if you or your yard employ someone to ride out your horse then you are responsible for ensuring that they are wearing the correct safety equipment so as to comply to current Health and Safety requirements. This would include a crash hat, back protector and Hi-Viz to the Professional PPE (Personal protective Equipment) Standard.
 
You are not overreacting. However it is difficult to confront someone without proof. I would say 'no, you cannot use my horse to hack out on. I am annoyed becuase I think someone else has been riding my horse while I'm not here so I'm saying no to everyone until someone owns up' or something along those lines.

It is hard if the YO is buddies with the RI, and I know how hard it is to find a nice yard, and I find moving very stressful so personally it wouldn;t just be a case of 'find a new yard' its not always that easy.

I would tell the YO that you think 'someone' has been riding your horse due to the way the tack was left etc and ask that she keeps an eye out becuase you don't want hit happening.
 
It gets better one of the other liveries tack has been used and guess what- it was on my old peg. Im about to blow a blood vessel. No one else is saying they have seen them ride him but in the day there is never a soul there and I don't know who the person she was planning on riding out with is so a blank there too..
 
***Why don't you say to her, that you don't think your horse would make a very good Nanny horse... This might prompt her to say, well he was last time... etc etc

This way she might even tell you, or give you some clues by her positive outlook on your horses ability to nanny the other horse**

This might at least give you a good idea whether or not she truely has taken your horse..

I would be fuming though either way - She sounds like some sort of oddball.


Tack home and be assertive with her.
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heidirusso said:
***Why don't you say to her, that you don't think your horse would make a very good Nanny horse... This might prompt her to say, well he was last time... etc etc

This way she might even tell you, or give you some clues by her positive outlook on your horses ability to nanny the other horse**

This might at least give you a good idea whether or not she truely has taken your horse..

I would be fuming though either way - She sounds like some sort of oddball.


Tack home and be assertive with her.
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^^^^This^^^^

I would be spitting feathers, bursting several blood vessels & creating merry hell simultaneously!:eek::eek:
 
I'm afraid I would struggle to be polite to the RI or the YO....... I would go absolutley MENTAL! I would not mind if they asked first...... as then I would still say 'no' anyway, but to go behind your back and not ask, that is awful. I would struggle to trust them again, but if you like it at the yard, make it perfectly clear that your horse is not to be ridden without permission. Could you put a lockable tack box on the yard, so you don't have to take it home?
 
So you're pretty sure they've used another horses tack on your horse. You need to ring the RI NOW and the YO and say that you don't want your horse ridden by anyone else at any time. Say "I think someone may have ridden him" (as you don't have proof) and ask them to keep an eye out as to who it might me as you're REALLY unhappy about your horse being ridden by anyone else due to all the problems he used to have.
 
Bens_Mum said:
Before I start a massive row I just wondered if you would be kind enough to give your opinions on this situation! Sorry if its a bit long..

My yard has a RI that comes at the weekend. She is not qualified and VERY pushy. I once asked her to ride my horse for money. After this kept texting and pestering me about taking lessons. I kept making excused re: cost to save saying actually I didn't want lessons with her!
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Did she actually ride your horse then? If so do you think she thought you wanted her to keep riding him/her and thought it was a way of making money for herself and saving you paying her?:confused::(

Bens_Mum said:
Thanks for all the opinions. I went completely off the deep end when I read it and wanted to be sure im not going mad! I will phone her when i've calmed down enough to be polite about it. I will be looking for somewhere else im not staying somewhere where no one would tell me if that was going on either! I am not precious about other people riding him and have paid for riders in the past when I wanted help but I wouldn't ask this person again even if that situation arose before all this rubbish!
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Do you know that your YO knew about it?:eek:

To be honest I wouldn't be paying me livery either if YO knew about it tell her she's made enough out of using your horse without your permission but not until your horse is loaded I'd just make arrangements then move.

Although I'm in Nottingham I will gladly come and slap her for you:D
 
You are absolutely not over reacting! I would be incandescent if someone even thought about taking one of my horses out without my knowledge or permission, let alone did it. If your YO was aware of this situation and did nothing to rectify it then I'd be leaving that yard pronto quite honestly.
 
I too would be absolutely fuming, and am on your behalf. But I would phone her and gently ask who this young horse belongs to etc you know being friendly, then speak to them to see if had happened before etc. But then i'm a sneaky so and so and don't like confrontation unless I know all the facts.
 
Absolutely, 100%, bang out of order! Taking your tack home realistically is likely to make not one iota of difference to people who think it is ok to just "borrow" someone else's horse! If they haven't already, they will just slap another, available, set of tack on. I am afraid I wouldn't waste too much time proving or disproving what has gone on. If you even suspect they ( YO/RI whoever) have used your horse in this way, the trust has gone. I could not leave my horse anywhere without being totally confident in the honesty/integrity of the yard owner/manager. It is one of the things you are actually paying for, the ability to be away from the stableyard, secure in the knowledge that your horse is safe and well supervised. It strikes me that has well and truely gone. Horrible situation to be in, but would be out of it asap.
Unfortunately, I can say pretty confidently this isn't a police matter. Without going into depth, certainly not Theft, or Taking without Consent. Unless there is some obscure
19th century Statute which escapes my failing memory, it is a Civil Matter, sorry.
 
Im glad I posted about other peoples tack being used in the yard i know of now - look else where asap! arent the other liverys p*issed of now too? some1 else using my tack would make me go mental let alone horse? maybe ask the other people to take tack home until u can move?

I think really now there is no point even talkin to YO - give your notice in as its clear the YO doesnt give a **** if they are letting this take place and start looking else where.
 
i'd confront YO and RI together, ideally when you have back-up. Ask whether they've been using your horse.
If so, move him asap. if they deny it, ask why tack was altered etc.
I'd be LIVID, just imagine if anything had happened to him. YO is supposed to take care of him, not take advantage.
 
Vote with your feet. You can't trust this place or the people involved. If this can happen then so will other things. You won't have peace of mind until you find a more suitable home for your horse.
 
This situation is perfectly simple.

You are paying for a service. I would imagine that you have a contract with the YO. Explain in simple terms exactly what they are and are not paid to do as per their contract. RI needs to butt out and be told that by you. Explain that you are concerned that your horse is being ridden with out your permission, you have now found another persons tack on your hook. Explain that neither your insurance nor the insurance of the yard owner would cover your horse being ridden by a person with out your permission because you have not signed up for that in your agreement with them and that as they are paid to ensure that your wishes are carried out they they would be fully liable for any costs caused by accidents that may occur while your horse is not being managed in the way you have agreed.

Look for another yard. NOW. Go by word of mouth. Go to every local tack shop, feed merchant, pet store etc.

I used to share my horses under the very strict instruction that no strangers were to ride them. I had very little time so the sharers were supposed to do most of the work while I paid for them. One of them is very big, very powerful and usually very gentle but has trust issues and if he decides that he has had enough or doesn't like the rider they will be on the floor with various limbs broken (he has done this to many very good riders). Once the rider is in the ditch and no longer a threat he will then try to find either myself or someone else he trusts, like the shepherd on the farm I keep him on. He isn't frightened of anything much so he would quite happily trot off down a motorway if he believed that he can find one of us in that particular direction. I was at work, had a phone call to say that my horses bridle was broken. I left work and found a stranger holding my very distressed horse. No one had noticed that every vien was bulging and he was ready to do damage. The poor man was shaking. Oh she was very complimentary but actually he had thrown his head up (only does this when he is feeling very stressed and about to throw his teddies out of the pram, if they had bothered to listen they woudl have known this) the bridle had caught in a branch and snapped. I thank god that my boy is who he is as any of my others would have charged off at this point where as he restrained himself for that extra 5 minutes.

The share was ended about a month later as I simply could not cope any more. I simply said that actually I was not happy and I wanted to end our agreement. This was one of many "little events", others were catching them riding with out hats, my horses being turned out into another of my friends field with out their permission (oh we thought it would be ok because you are friends with them - er no its not my field!), failure of them to turn up for the farrier when they promised, using my money to shoe their own pony instead of mine... My tack was returned mouldy (including the brand new bridle to replace the broken one). The first time I rode after it ended my once very well mannered boy tried to bomb off as soon as his toes touched grass... Now much much happier that I am back in control and funnily enough so are all my horses! I am still friends with them but they can do what they like and I will do what I want with my horses.

Just say no and mean no. Horsey folk, for all we are a great bunch, we can be a funny bunch. What is happening is disrespectful, dishonest and WRONG. You pay alot of money to have your horse and enjoy your horse. Move it to somewhere that respects that and your wishes and actually offers the service that you are PAYING for. Ask yourself this. If you went to a pub and asked and paid for a glass of red wine would you accept a bag of peanuts instead and be happy with it? This is exactly the same thing.
 
Some one tried to use my daughters pony once(on of the liverys)as they needed a safe pony to ride,I put up a lockable saddle rack,and the look from me was enough.
Your situation I would move yards,dont worry about giving notice just go. Get a lockable saddle rack up ASAP . I would be jumping up and down with anger,some people have a nerve and the yard owner does not own your horse YOU DO Blood boiling at moment. :mad::mad::mad:
 
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Bens_Mum said:
It gets better one of the other liveries tack has been used and guess what- it was on my old peg. Im about to blow a blood vessel. No one else is saying they have seen them ride him but in the day there is never a soul there and I don't know who the person she was planning on riding out with is so a blank there too..
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Does this mean that even though you've removed your tack, they're just using other peoples on him and still riding him?! I'm speechless! :eek:
 
the yo could well have been completely manipulated..... There are some very nasty people out there who use their friends. The yo would be daft to risk her business like this.
 
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