Am I right to be annoyed?

lula said:
yes she has a right to be annoyed - no one has said otherwise if you read the thread properly.
what i have an issue with however, is you calling posters 'sanctimonious vipers' and accusing people of implying the OP has a mental condition.
saying someone might be displaying paranoia as a trait towards a set of circumstances which the OP set out - is in no way the same thing as saying they suffer from paranoid schizophrenia or any paranoid delusional or psychiatric illness.

Therefore there is no need to start throwing insults about is there?

i see you're new. welcome to the HHo forums.
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I assure you, I can read properly. I'm afraid your comprehension skills may be a bit lacking if you don't take from anyone's threads that they are being extremely sanctimonious and dismissive.

And, yes, people on here are 'vipers.' If you don't think saying 'take a chill pill' and 'are you normally this paranoid' and 'have you been on livery before' is patronising and 'throwing insults' themselves then you must be a bit thick, dear.

In my opinion the OP shouldn't have posted the thread with the question in the title. She was clearly not in the wrong and inviting others to tell her she was was a bit daft.

It is NOT paranoid to be annoyed about this and to imply it is with such lines as 'are you normally this paranoid' and suggesting they need medication with a 'chill pill' is suggesting an abnormal response, which, in turn suggests a mental disorder.

And you may see 'I'm new', but don't always believe what your eyes see. People have more than one email address you know... ;)
 
im a bit thick am i? Heh

well, what a delight you are.

having a bad day, are you always this nasty, or just not 'getting any' perhaps?

whatever, im not arguing with stupid, you knock yourself out luv.
 
I run a livery yard. All owners of horses in shared fields talk to one another to understand whether the other horses are happy to be left, I believe this is an important communication . We also have a, rule that any horse left that seems unsettled needs to be bought in, there is no confusion.
As the the owner of the horse, I assume on DIY livery? It is up to you to ensure that the stable is left in manner that allows the horse to come in to hay and water should the situation arise.
 
We are on a diy yard and tbh all the I yards have been on always have worked on last horse rule - a single horse would not be left in the field unless owner had specifically said to leave out as horse could hurt itself if gets stressed so err on side of caution. Would always give hay and water tho and would text/call owner if had their number.

We often have a problem with folk using this rule as a form of livery which annoys me
You said you were new to yard so just a thought that this may have been an unspoken rule on the yard.
 
TequilaMist said:
We are on a diy yard and tbh all the I yards have been on always have worked on last horse rule - a single horse would not be left in the field unless owner had specifically said to leave out as horse could hurt itself if gets stressed so err on side of caution. Would always give hay and water tho and would text/call owner if had their number.

We often have a problem with folk using this rule as a form of livery which annoys me
You said you were new to yard so just a thought that this may have been an unspoken rule on the yard.
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this ^

i was phoned about my horse out alone once (couldnt catc the bloody thing...) told them to leave it out so she would stress enough to be caught - i knew this would work and shes been a delight to catch ever since)! but point is - someone was kind enough to rin gme....

i have to say tho - a text wouldnt have agone a miss to the effect of "brought x in,,,, do you want me to chuck hay over"?


im sure it was good intension tho op!
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I certainly don't think that you're over reacting OP.
I'd be livid in your position. Who on earth decided that it was a good idea to bring a horse in and leave it with neither water nor hay? As for the suggestion that you should leave the stable ready for the horse to come in to, just in case someone should decide to take it upon themselves to bring your horse in....!
It really annoys me when I read on here that certain people believe that everything should be done for the horse early in the morning, as though there is some moral high ground involved. Some of us start work so early/travel so far that this is impractical and it is much easier to do the stable in the evening.
If I were you OP, I'd seriously consider moving to another yard, in the light of your comments about the horse being at the yard with his previous owner.
I read threads like this and give thanks that our horses are at home.
 
Had this before on my old yard a livery was leaving and decided to bring all the horses in because it was raining it was in the summer and they all had lightweights on so were fine was a bit miffed to say the least as my stable was half painted and still had all the paintbrushes and paint etc in there! Good job pony was too scared of why they were there instead of his usual straw bed but never went near them thankgod anyway get to the yard the said livery had gne
 
casinosolo said:
Lol, why do I?? I'm not paying them to look after my horse, they don't need to know my 'preferences'!? As someone else said, it's DIY. I don't expect anyone else to be doing anything, therefore I don't expect to have to go around telling everyone my turnout preferences!
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I think we have a different view of how yards work then. I like my liveries to know each other & their horses. Some horses are happy to be left alone, some horses would injure themselves. I know that whoever is at the yard is attentive to the other horses and would alert owners/me is anything were amiss. It could be that someone hasn't made it to the yard because of an accident, horse would still be done & tended on our yard, on your yard presumably no-one would notice - or do anything to help the horse without a formal request.
 
Casino solo I'm going to give you the advice I wish someone had given me when I bought milieu. Move him. Take him somewhere where you are the only known owner - I promise that it makes such a huge difference.
Milieu stayed on the yard owned by his former owner and everyone knew him before I did. When I bought Deano it was so different and I wish I'd known and taken meels away when I got him.x
 
casinosolo said:
Exactly, I can't be sure and that's what I'm annoyed at! I should be sure about what he has and hasn't had and why he needed to be brought in. Just wish the person had informed me. I understand what you are saying, I don't want to fall out with people but it's just not something I would ever do without telling someone.
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I had a similar experience earlier this year when I came down in the morning to feed my elderly horse and found her shut in the laminitis paddock with the two ponies. My horse is quite thin enough without being further starved thanks very much. She did have a small kick but so I wondered if someone had seen her being bullied and moved her, but equally it could have come from one of the ponies as I've seen it go for her before with its back feet. Not one person knew anything about it/admitted to it and so I had no idea how long she had been there for. Needless to say she was rather relieved to see her breakfast. Luckily most of the other liveries are very protective about her and look out for her, but they always check with me first. I also always make sure that her stable is clean and there is hay and water in case she has to come in earlier than expected.
 
casinosolo said:
Lol, why do I?? I'm not paying them to look after my horse, they don't need to know my 'preferences'!? As someone else said, it's DIY. I don't expect anyone else to be doing anything, therefore I don't expect to have to go around telling everyone my turnout preferences!
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That's really short-sighted most of us can't be around our horses all the time and sometimes bad things happen and we need others. One day your horse may colic or get a field injury when you are not there and I sure as hell think you would want people's help then. Or what if you were ill or had an accident?

On a yard you are not in isolation - what you do affects others just as what they do affects you - best thing is to be open and explain your preferences etc.
 
The best thing to do I would have thought is to speak to Yo and make your wishes known re your horses treatment. On most yards there is a rule that the last one is not left out on their own. If as you say horse was previously owned by someone on same yard, they may have wanted their horse brought in so assumption made that you would also. I would not be so annoyed and off about what has happened as you may well need someones help in the future and you would not get it. I have been on a yard where no one looked out for other horses on the yard and mine was left to colic all day, when I was told in the evening
that "he's been like that since this morning ", needless to say, horse was moved.

Yes someone should have put hay and water in, maybe they did, chalk it up to experience and make your future wishes known politely.
 
casinosolo said:
Someone you've never met before standing and watching you ride in the school and then following you to your stable afterwards and watching you untack without speaking a word is not normal IMO and this is just one example of something that has happened.
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:eek: What a wierdo! Did you challenge them and ask what they were doing? I would have said something such as 'Can I help you?' or 'Is something the matter?' or 'Would you mind not following me about?'. Hate people like that.
 
piebaldsparkle said:
So it is quite possible the other liveries may have brought him in previously for his old owner?

I would be grateful if someone brought mine in on a day like yesterday if I was running late (though my stable is always left with hay/water just incase).

Think you need to take a chill pill, find out who brought him in and then either thank them (if he was in trouble) or politely make your wishes known. Otherwise you risk alienating yourself further.
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Pretty much what I'd think. I'd be grateful if someone had the sense to bring my horse in in torrential rain, rather than leave him standing out in it (prob wet and cold)!!

Hay and water issue is a bit annoying but there could be may good reasons: well meaning husbands been sent to get the horses in, they didn't know what hay was yours, he was only in for an hour or so (they can dry off that quickly(, they assumed you wouldn't want.

You sounds like you've got your knickers in a twist about it and are being one of those 'don't touch my precious horsey' types. And if you're like that normally, it doesn't suprise me someone hasn't owned up I'm afraid!

Personally I'd leave a note thanking whoever brought him and make sure water and hay are avalible in his stable in case it happens again.
 
Wagtail said:
:eek: What a wierdo! Did you challenge them and ask what they were doing? I would have said something such as 'Can I help you?' or 'Is something the matter?' or 'Would you mind not following me about?'. Hate people like that.
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I said 'hello' after I had untacked and they had walked off towards muck heap. I was at the point of trying to be nice and make friends with people (have given up that idea now..) The person in question didn't even crack a smile, but simply proceeded to inform me that my horse didn't like being ridden in the school and much preferred hacking. When I explained that I planned to do both all I got was 'No, he doesn't like the school.' Erm, right then.
 
Kallibear said:
You sounds like you've got your knickers in a twist about it and are being one of those 'don't touch my precious horsey' types. !
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I'm not 5 years old. And I'm quite happy to be one of those 'types'; I bought my horse to look after him myself and don't want strangers doing it. I also work a long way from home (and in the opposite direction from my yard) and leave at 5.30 in the morning. I therefore pay the YO to turn him out if he's in over night or my friend checks him if he's in the field. I'm sorry if you think I should, but I don't see why I should get up at 3am to have time to go up to the yard in the morning and muck out, put hay in and water just 'in case' someone wants to bring him in. And, fair enough, if it was an emergency then they would need to bring him in. This WAS NOT an emergency. Rain in this part of the world is almost a daily occurance and he does not need mollycoddling. As I have stated ALL ALONG, I was far more annoyed at no contact and no note being left to explain why he was in stable.
 
I'm pretty sick of talking about this now, to be honest. I am over it, am not angry anymore but do still believe I'm in the right to be annoyed. And note I didn't say 'furious', 'livid', 'absolutely hopping mad', simply annoyed. I'm sorry if it comes across as rude, but I won't be answering any more people on this thread when they ask me questions or accuse me of being a diva because I think it needs leaving now!
 
Before deciding to move why not try & have a chat with as many people as you can, there could be an undercurrent or mix up that is causing the problems.
When I was 16 or so I was on a big diy yard. A lady also there had personal problems, & her horse was turned away. As they weren't improving she paid me to look after & bring back to work so horse could be sold. New owner then blanked every attempt I made to be friendly. Unbeknown to me, several people had taken it upon themselves to tell new owner I hated her for stealing my horse, & were constantly following her about telling her how I did everything, from mucking out to where I rode. Whereas in reality I couldn't have been happier, & just wanted to say hi & invite her to ride with us. After 6weeks or so it did all come to light, but initially she was off with me, & as a result I thought her snotty. Just a thought but could there be similar yard rumours causing your problems?
 
casinosolo said:
I'm pretty sick of talking about this now, to be honest. I am over it, am not angry anymore but do still believe I'm in the right to be annoyed. And note I didn't say 'furious', 'livid', 'absolutely hopping mad', simply annoyed. I'm sorry if it comes across as rude, but I won't be answering any more people on this thread when they ask me questions or accuse me of being a diva because I think it needs leaving now!
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I've been thinking about what happened to you, and tbh I'd be quite upset about it.

I'm really laid back about who handles Mollie on the yard, as everyone on my yard's pretty capable. Several different people have brought her in or turned her out, but only after texting/phoning me or being asked to. I'd be very concerned if I found her in when I thought she was out. For one thing, sometimes I've been on a 24 hr shift, and left her out, checking her before I go to work and as soon as I finished. If someone brought her in she could stand all that time with no food and water! :eek:

Once or twice horses have escaped from fields onto the yard, in which case someone might put them in their stable for safety. But they'd then inform the owner and YO.

You're not a diva, or over-reacting, or being precious imo. You're quite right to have been concerned and a little annoyed.
 
casinosolo said:
Yes, I'm sure they meant well but it doesn't make it OK IMO. He is my horse and even if someone decided it was up to them to bring him in, they should have texted me. I also think that anyone with any common sense would know that a horse should not be stood in a stable for hours with no hay. To be honest, the more I think about it the more annoyed I get!
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A horse isn't likely to come to any harm being in a stable without hay and water for a few hours. I am really glad not to have to deal with liveries anymore.
 
Kallibear said:
Pretty much what I'd think. I'd be grateful if someone had the sense to bring my horse in in torrential rain, rather than leave him standing out in it (prob wet and cold)!!

Hay and water issue is a bit annoying but there could be may good reasons: well meaning husbands been sent to get the horses in, they didn't know what hay was yours, he was only in for an hour or so (they can dry off that quickly(, they assumed you wouldn't want.

You sounds like you've got your knickers in a twist about it and are being one of those 'don't touch my precious horsey' types. And if you're like that normally, it doesn't suprise me someone hasn't owned up I'm afraid!

Personally I'd leave a note thanking whoever brought him and make sure water and hay are avalible in his stable in case it happens again.
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You make a lot of assumptions in your post about her horse being wet and cold, only left for a few hours without hay or water etc.
The OP is entitled to be annoyed that someone decided for her what was best for her horse without a by or leave for her wishes.
In any other thread they'd be seen as a busy body who should butt out.
And yes i am one of the " dont touch my precious horse types" because ive seen to many idiots who dont know what theyre doing around horses.
I wouldnt want just anyone handling my horses, for various reasons, ive seen idiots banging horses hips in doorways, bringing in 2 together who dont get on and end up booting each other, or worse getting away from the helpful person who thinks they can deal with a fit competition horse then find they cant when theve had no right handling them in the first place.
OP youve every right to be p1$$ed off imo
 
casinosolo said:
Thanks, it's possible they had trouble getting through to me so will bear that in mind! We do all have whiteboards and pens attached to tack room doors for notes though so they could really have put something on there. Perhaps he decided to bring himself in because he was sick of the rain and couldn't quite manage the pen with his hooves! Lol.
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if that's the case maybe you could get one of the new ipads for horses and he could text you himself! --:D
 
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