Am I saying the right thing

I haven't said anything about her condition as when I went to collect her she was rugged and ready for transport, so I just collected her things and loaded her. So wasn't until I got home I noticed her condition!

They've blooming well kept one of my bits I sent with her and her decent fly mask! Part of me wants to contact them regarding them and also tell them thanks for letting my mare get into the condition she has, but the better part of me says it's only a bit and a fly mask just forget it and don't cause an row between anyone over her condition, what's done is done and just be glad things worked out how they have and I got her back sooner rather then later.
 
:-( tbh I'd probably leave it too, you've got her back, and that's what matters, you can now start to improve her condition.

((HUGS))
 
:-( tbh I'd probably leave it too, you've got her back, and that's what matters, you can now start to improve her condition.

((HUGS))
 
Spotsrock said:
Jabs last a year so if you are taking horse back after less than 6 months I can see their point. For fairness why not offer to reimburse pro rata, for example divide bill by 12 and if they had it 10 months you would reimburse 2 lots of a 12th of the bill, if they had it 9 months you'd pay 3 lots etc
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Definitely agree with this; do it pro-rata to be fair.
I can totally understand their upset; they ve spent the majority of the winter paying the higher costs, and doing all the wet/cold horrible work only to find they are losing the horse just as spring is around the corner.
I think it's totally fair that the horse should come back sooner- they ll of lost their motivation to care for it knowing it ll soon be gone.
Perhaps as they do have a box, if you do offer some costs towards what they have paid out for, and offer to pay towards box they might bring it home too?
Whatever the circumstances of ending it, always pays to leave situation nicely, and open.
 
Blows bubbles, I collected the horse myself they had nothing to do with the transport of her coming back, as my contract stated that if I gave notice to have my horse back I paid transport, of they have notice they was responsible for cost of transport!

I spent around £700 on this mare putting her right just to put her out on loan to this family so was well out of pocket myself for a horse that I wasn't even keeping at the time to ride myself! I'm now going to have to spend out a lot more money getting her up to weight, having my chiropractor to see her once she's built back up again as she'd been ridden still while underweight, I dread to think what's been undone in the time they've had her :(

They'd also have a summer of her hardly being worked as the person who was loaning her has broken her shoulder so is unable to ride for most the year, her daughter had been riding her once a week!

I'd love to take it further as she is so poor but it's just a waste of time. She'll stay with me forever now bless her.
 
Where in this post does it say the loaners have only had this horse for the winter and have been paying for everything and now springs on the way owner wants horse back?

Am I blind? A lot of assumptions towards the op for no good reason. The loaners agreed to a contract where they pay the costs of things such as the jabs. No they are not entitled to it back op is not in the wrong.

The loaner agreed to the 30 day notice too that again isn't the ops fault they did so..

Also op if they haven't even been looking after the mare well I'd question if they had even jabbed the horse.
 
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Really depends on your contract, which I assume you have. If the contract says they are responsible, then they should not be given a refund. If nothing in your contract, you will have to argue this out. I believe they should remain responsible for the costs, and would not be prepare to refund them.
 
My contract stated that all costs was down to them, so I gave them nothing back at all..

Thank you Risky Business, they hve had my horse for more then just the winter, I've been very kind to these people and I've had my horse returned looking almost like a neglect case!

If I hadn't of given them my notice and they hadn't of said come get her this weekend how much worse would she have got? I was going to see the horse on the 26th so it wouldn't have been long before I'd have found out what state she was in anyway. Just pleased she's home and safe now
 
I'd still ask for your things back and tell them you're not impressed with the state that the horse got into. The worst thing that can happen is you stay in the same position as you are now..
 
We'll I've text them asking for my things back, they've seen my message iPhone message says they've read it but no reply as of yet!

I've just realised my equine insurance has a legal advice line (who knew lol) so I'm going to contact them tomorrow to see if there is anything I can do about the state my horse has come back in. I am pretty sure there is nothing that can be done but I'm going to ask! Doesn't mean I'll take it anywhere but no harm in asking!
 
I don't know if you will get very far with this as things to do with horses can be hard to prove. I loaned out my horse many years ago, he was broken in by me, and while he was a bright cob, he had perfect manners, forward going etc. The loaners hid it from me that he had started napping, soon this became rearing - when I found out I got him back asap, and while I did manage to get him going in a fashion, he never forgot to nap and rear, it was always his default position. I contacted a solicitor who advised me that this type of thing was very difficult to prove - the advice being it could have happened anyway. I do know people who have loan horses etc and it works well but I would never loan again, I would rather lay a horse off, at least you know that it is healthy and has come to no harm - I don't think people value your horse as much as you do.
 
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Well I'm being told that they was never given the items I'm claiming they still have of mine and that the condition my mares come back to me in is the same condition I gave her to them in which I'm so cross about!! (Will try and upload pictures)

My mare wasn't fat when she went to them (she's a TB x Warmblood) but she did not look like she does now! She's supposed to have been fed twice a day of Hi-Fi Original , Baileys No 4 and Speedi-beet. If that's the cause she shouldn't be looking like she does now :(

I've gotten legal advise and if I have a vet out to check her over if they confirm that her lack of condition is due to lack of care and feed then they would have been in breach of the contract they'd signed and I'd have a good chance of bein able to take them to a county court. At the moment I'm unsure if I'll go down this route, as it's expensive to have vet out to run bloods do full check over when I know it's just lack of food. And I'm just glad she's home! Ive given them the chance to explain and sort things between the two of us but have also made them that aware that I've sort legal advise and if I decide to within the next few days they may be faced with court at some point if my vet finds no medical reason for the weight loss..
 
In your situation, some years back, I had a young healthy mare come back off loan looking like a hat rack.
I wanted the loaners to pay, they shouldn't be able to do this without any come back should they?
I couldn't get anywhere with it, I hope things have changed for you.
I'm glad your mare is back out of harms way.
 
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Just to add I'm not surprised you're upset with the condition she's in! I'm amazed the loaners haven't even acknowledged what's happened. At least she's back in your care now.
 
There saying that she's prob in the same condition now as she was when I gave them to her :(

I brought this little mare because she was going to be shot due to her previous owner having no interest in her, she couldn't sell her because she was asking a stupidly high price for what she was at the time so I brought her dirt cheap. I'd know the mare from a 3yr old and wanted to give her a chance. When I collected her and brought her home upon buying her she had a load of back issues, tack that didn't fit and was a general mess! I spent a fortune having her back issues sorted out and a saddler out, once she was signed off and given the all clear to start work I started building her up with Pessoa work with the go ahead from my chiropractor and light hacking. That's when I put her out on loan, now all my hard work has been undone and I need to get her weight back up, have my back lady out give her a full mot before I will even dream of even thinking about bringing her back into any form of work again.
 
Oh yes, that's pretty disgusting. Poor lass. Very angry at people who can do this.
She should pick up quickly, she looks very healthy in the first pic.
 
Melody Grey said:
Depends what your contract said. Are these jabs and wormer very recent.... Like in the last couple of weeks? If they were, I might be tempted to reimburse to avoid an unhappy situation on collection, but really I think if they've had the horse for some time and it's something the contract says they have to pay for, they'll have to lump it.
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My thoughts too.
 
Weight wise she has come back a little more than "winter thin" which she should recover from pretty quickly especially as spring is almost here. Muscle wise she has lost all the muscle to carry a rider which makes her look so angular so I am guessing they just rugged her up and chucked her out in field. Not really how i would expect a horse to come back off loan ( and this from someone who likes her lot to come through winter with a tiny bit of rib showing to allow for apring grass gorging!). Unfortunately i don't think you would get anywhere with civil case against them so I would just put it behind you and enjoy having her home and giving her some pampering.
 
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