Am I wrong? (Delayed rescue)

Very disappointing
I hope a member of the Sheikhs family is never put in this situation
It may have been actions of over-zealous staff but I hope formal complaint is made
 
I was also shocked by this. I've been to that estate and know how tight they are with security but none the less someones life could have been in danger, they should have made an exception. Plus landing would be very difficult outside the sheikhs land (shrubby uneven moorland). I think it is irresponsible.
 
How disgusting is that? I'm shocked that they would be so unconcerned about the woman.
I'm surprised that they would be allowed to order off their land if the crew were responding to an emergancy. Or is it because of the status of the landowner? Does anybody know if there's a law about this sort of thing eg could the emergency services override the objections of the general public or landowners about landing/driving over/damaging property to reach a casualty? What about if they needed to land on, say, the Queen's estate; due to her status could she, theoretically, object (not that I think she would but in theory)?
 
I'm highly suprised that there are not heliads on the estate so that they would not have to cut through the fencing?


Very odd indeed. Hope the lady recovers quickly, see she has been discharged already.

I suppose one blessing is that there were already paramedics with her at the time. Though still doesn't condone their actions.
 
The law is that the Air Amb can land anywhere if the crew believe it to be a matter of life or death, in this case the paramedics with the woman confirmed her as stable so the Helo relocated elsewhere but still air lifted her out, rather than cut the security fencing.
 
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The law is that the Air Amb can land anywhere if the crew believe it to be a matter of life or death, in this case the paramedics with the woman confirmed her as stable so the Helo relocated elsewhere but still air lifted her out, rather than cut the security fencing.

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But....but....Thistle that's not nearly such a good tabloid-esque spin on the story now is it? How will H&H sell copies of the mag and entice people to use the website with that version of events, it isn't nearly melodramatic enough....
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Who'd have thought it - dull non-news given a spicy spin to make news.....
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But....but....Thistle that's not nearly such a good tabloid-esque spin on the story now is it? How will H&H sell copies of the mag and entice people to use the website with that version of events, it isn't nearly melodramatic enough.... Who'd have thought it - dull non-news given a spicy spin to make news.....

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ROFLMAO! I didn't realise she was stable and there was a bit more to the story. Still, it brought up an interesting (to me, anyway) question about the emergency services. I should have known better than to take the story on face value but you'd think you'd be able to believe H&H, really. I wasn't feeling great last night, I'll blame my naiveity that!
 
Now just to play devils advocate - its is possible the helicopter landed in a stupid place and were about to cut through a security fence which is a) designed not be be cut through and b) expensive.

The ambulance service would not pay for any damage done and its just possible the guards told them it would be better to land the other side of the fence??
 
Not to mention that I would imagine that nobody actually asked the owners whether it was OK and the decision was made by a security guard. In fact, I would be surprised if the owners were even there.
 
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The ambulance service would not pay for any damage done

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Now I thought they had to just like the police do. If they smash a door in to gain entry then they have to pay & repair it asap.

A friend told of someone they thought may have OD (looked like it through the window) but in reality had not happened. The police smashed the door down & within 30minutes there was someone out repairing the door. This was in the early hours of the morning.

Plus is it not only police who are allowed to force entry?
 
It looks like this story was lifted from the Daily Mail (say no more...)

Even reading down the mail's own version of events, which should in itself be taken with a large pinch of salt....

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His head of security confirmed the helicopter had landed, saying: ‘It just plonked down outside the house, landing on private ground without permission, and that was the issue.

Aircraft can’t just fly in like that. I understand it was an emergency, but they should have notified us. We have people working in the grounds, including gardeners, and if they have protective earphones on they can’t hear anything.

It could have landed on top of someone, or there could have been other aircraft coming into the estate – we do have a landing area here.

One guard was relaying back to me what was going on as I was in the control room. I told the guard to tell them to contact me direct, but before we could sort it out they just took off again.

We don’t have a problem with the air ambulance landing here or cutting the fence. They’ve done it before, but we do need to be notified first.

Sheik Al Maktoum wasn’t here at the time, but even so it sparks a panic if an aircraft suddenly appears on your lawn.’

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It goes on to say:

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An air ambulance spokeswoman said: ‘We landed on Sheik Al Maktoum’s estate and were prepared to cut the fence and guards did approach the crew.

But at that point we received a radio message saying that the patient wasn’t as badly injured as we thought. The medical team had a discussion with the guards and a decision was taken to move the helicopter

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The Mail's reporting does do my head in. It would appear that the air ambulance wasn't ordered off by the Sheikh at all, neither were the ambulance crew 'stunned'. And I must admit I'm a bit disappointed in Horse and Hound for printing a half story like this.
 
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