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Following the FEI's announcement on the Amy Tryon case, you can have your say about the level of punishment you think the FEI should have issued in our online poll on the homepage.

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The results of this poll will be published in Horse & Hound (2 August, '07).

For a full report on the tribunal's decision, plus industry reaction, don't miss this Thursday's Horse & Hound (26 July, '07)
 
Have voted. And if the 'industry reaction' is anything like the one-sided comments on the incident leading up to the hearing I will be very disappointed
 
I am stunned that a woman of such 'supposed' experience could allow such an honest horse to carry on to the end of that trial, there is no way she could NOT have known that this lovely horse was lame. Such riders obviously forget what is was like to work hard to own an animal like this, and its about time they had a requirement to pay part ownership in the animal so they are aware what is at stake. Amy its time to wake up to reality, there are decent people out there who let this happen again. Shame on you!
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Incidentally I dont think Amy Tryon should be allowed near a horse again - If someone deliberately brings harm to an animal where the only thing left is to put it to sleep due to its pain, they are normally STOPPED from owning or working around such animals

As far as I am concerned there is NO way Amy was unaware the horse was lame - if so she shouldnt be near a horse again!!! Either way the equestrian fraternity that supports her will lose my money and support. I have a conscience - time they found one!
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I hope in your report, unlike the internet one you point out that the actual fine for killing the horse was only £404 and the rest is costs.
 
Have voted.
While I do not want her banned for life I find it amazing that she can be found guilty of abuse and yet will still be free to compete at the next olympic games...
 
I choose 1-2 years, enough for her horses to get moved to different owners (if they are still with her - why?) but just about the right time for her to struggle to get back into the sport and to have everyone turn their backs on her as everyone still remembers what she did. She's getting on as well, so she won't retire, she'll try to give it another go and it would have been years out in the wilderness
 
Voted! I think she should have had a year's ban, so have voted for the 1-2 years. Ama amazed at some of the results though; some say no punishment and some say a life ban!
 
With a paltry 2 months and a 400 quid fine the only other way to affect her is to get her sponsors to stop sponsoring her

The teamtryon website lists her sponsors

What happened to that horse was unacceptable and the reasoning that it was partially 'bad' because it was so public rather than in a minor event is very very sad. Almost as if it would have been not so bad if people hadn't seen it ?
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Have voted.

Admin if this is going to be featured in H+H could you please endeavour to express the reactions here online both to the incident itself and also the verdict and punishment given by the FEI.

I cannot understand how the governing body can find a competitor guilty of abuse then meter out such a paltry sentence and fine. How can they ever be taken seriously either to prevent breaches of the rules or to follow up those breaches ever again?
 
I think that it is about time that the higher powers in eventing realised that their sport as an olympic disciplineis under threat, due to its exhorbitant costs, and that they need to address public perception of the sport to keep both the populace and the sponsors on their side. After Badminton's disgraceful disregard for ground conditions, knowing that the event was to be screened live,and the hideous spectacles witnessed there, for which no heads have rolled, the last thing eventing as a sport needs is to be seen apparently showing scant regard for the lives of the horse we depend on. It matters not a jot that this was a major event, that piece of footage would have shocked at any level but it doesmatter that AT was a highly experienced competitor and should have known better. At the very least to have been a little more remorse ful at the time. it does not improve matters when some of the most famous names in eventing, and one whose fame transcends mere horse trials, have been seen to appaerently support both the FEI and Amy Tyron.
I have voted for a significant ban by the way and i have also read the entire FEI transcript as well as seen the entire round concerned.
 
The fact that she was found guilty surely means that 2 months ban is insufficient. If any other person (groom, vet etc) had been found to have caused the death of a valuable competition horse by mismanagement, the fine and subsequent ban would surely have been far greater. Is it because she is a well known rider that an exception has been made or perhaps the backing she has had from a few other high profile people?
 
I think that part of the problem was that although she has been found guilty of abuse the FEI couldn't prove intent. While AT has high profile "experts" saying that they too would not have known the severity of the injury then the FEI could not say for certain that she knew there was anything seriously wrong.
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I think thats what we are all having trouble getting our heads round.

Her version of what she 'felt' was so at odds with what we all 'saw' (have seen the full vid and read the 30 pages) that we just cannot believe what she has said throughout any of this.
 
Why can't I vote?

When I click on the "vote now" link at the bottom of the article it just goes back to the main page.
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Edited because I opened my eyes and saw the poll!
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and patently nor can the indpendent (non-AT-bestfriends) like Christian Landolt and Wayne Roycroft, nor the vets.

The only other way to hit her financially is to get her sponsors to publicly drop her - as Jade Goodie's sponsors dropped her after that incident in BigB and also didn't Kate Moss lose sponsors over something ??

Start emailing her sponsoring companies - it only takes one to publicly drop her for the others to follow
UK centered sponsors of AT include Horsewear, Charles Owen, Mylerbits, Mikmar, Devocoux and Adequan.

The less sponsorship money she has the less she will be able to compete. That and obviously making our opinion of her and the O'Connors if they compete in the UK again, is the only way Joe Public has to show our real feelings rather than what the whitewash of an FEI verdict this has been.

Also to boycott are any of ATs supporters - i.e. Mark Phillips and Lucinda Green. LG clinics should be boycotted.

Also to note is that H&H actually pay LG and MP for their input. In view of the fact that these two people supported someone now 'convicted' of horse abuse by the international committee - I question whether H&H ought to also still carry copy from these two people.

Or to put it another way - is 'meat money' the price of Le Samurai's life ?
 
I voted for 2years - which hopefully would mean when the ban was up she would no longer have horses and owners and would find getting back into the sport very difficult.

This whole sham is not going to help the public view of equestrian sports - which noone can deny is essential at keeping our sport alive. The last thing we need is a negative public view!
 
Have voted - more than 2 years ban. I guess I believe in rehabilitation so no life ban but long enough to make her go and book some lunge lessons and learn to FEEL the horse.
What she did is a disgrace to the sport and there is no way she could have not known/felt the state of her horse.
 
Well IMO some parts were a blatant lie [ie. that she tried to pull him up as soon as he landed, she clearly and demonstratively did not] so I am inclined to entirely disbelieve much of what she says, as she is clearly just trying to get herself out of the sh*t.
 
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Well IMO some parts were a blatant lie [ie. that she tried to pull him up as soon as he landed, she clearly and demonstratively did not] so I am inclined to entirely disbelieve much of what she says, as she is clearly just trying to get herself out of the sh*t.

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Exactly. I do not believe for 1 second that a 4* 3DE rider does not know where the finish line is and that does make me wonder exactly how much of her statement is pure fabrication...
 
i said exactly that in another post. people who tell one lie generally tell others. the whole thing makes me sick. it cannot be defended. its not a question of where she was or at what point on the course or her focus or whatever, she is seen to look down at teh horse as he stumles so clearly is aware of something,makes no effort to stop, sets horse up for last jump and rides it to the finish. she is clearly not trying to pull it up until then. as i said on anther thread, when matt wright realised one of his was injured there was NO DOUBT he was trying to pull up becuase he was leaning back shocking its teeth out. TheFEI and all who are making excuses should be ashamed. There are none for a rider of this calibre at this level.
 
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The only other way to hit her financially is to get her sponsors to publicly drop her - as Jade Goodie's sponsors dropped her after that incident in BigB and also didn't Kate Moss lose sponsors over something ??

Start emailing her sponsoring companies - it only takes one to publicly drop her for the others to follow
UK centered sponsors of AT include Horsewear, Charles Owen, Mylerbits, Mikmar, Devocoux and Adequan.

The less sponsorship money she has the less she will be able to compete. That and obviously making our opinion of her and the O'Connors if they compete in the UK again, is the only way Joe Public has to show our real feelings rather than what the whitewash of an FEI verdict this has been.

Also to boycott are any of ATs supporters - i.e. Mark Phillips and Lucinda Green. LG clinics should be boycotted.

Also to note is that H&H actually pay LG and MP for their input. In view of the fact that these two people supported someone now 'convicted' of horse abuse by the international committee - I question whether H&H ought to also still carry copy from these two people.

Or to put it another way - is 'meat money' the price of Le Samurai's life ?

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What a good post seansheep.. Anyone want to draw up an email we can all send to her sponsors?! (Coupled with email addresses for the more lazy of us..
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I wonder if H+H will continue to have CMP and LG as contributors? (I have a feeling they will..
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I merely cited the FEI decisions, stated that sponsorship of a rider found guilty of horse abuse would not add credit to their organisation, stated that I and my contacts would boycott and continue to boycott their products until they publicly removed their sponsorship from this rider.

Short, sweet and to the point.

Hit AT in the pocket via her sponsors - it's the ONLY way we can stop her.

As much as we are appalled by the FEI decision, the attitude of the boot-lickers and the fact that she'll be out and about again (and possibly in the UK next year) within 2 months, the ONLY way to hit her hard is via her sponsorshiop

This MUST be vital to her to continue as she also has a 'begging letter' on the sponsorshiop page of her website reminding people that donations to her are tax free as 'gifts' (under USA tax law) and giving an address postal and email to which donations to her can be sent.

So she is literally on her website begging for money !!!

So she must be desperate for sponsorship money - so if we want to hit her - get the sponsors to back out
 
Page 4 of the report states that there was "......no actual awareness of the competitor that she had been riding a lame or injured horse."

The reason Amy Tyron did not suffer a more serious ban is due to this conclusion. I fail to see how Amy Tyron did not realise what what happening underneath her, and the very fact that she couldn't figure out that her horse was so badly lame it needed to be put down is surely reason enough to ban her when she is competing at that level.

I hope that Horse and Hound's paper version accurately reflects the views of everyone who has followed this incident.
 
What makes me so cross is that Amy Tryon, CMP and her other followers as well as the FEI think they can take the public for fools. That to fob us off with this wordy report and deny that AT knew her horse was injured and to dish out this pathetic fine and ban would SHUT US UP. I don't like being fobbed off when I know the truth and I don't like being taken for an idiot.

One question: Why is she being protected? It is not for the good of the sport, and certainly not for the good of her horses......
 
This is interesting. I was reading a blog from a reporter at the Pan Am's. She was interviewing Foggy (love that!) and here's what he said about when Mara Dean was in first and pulled up:
“Everybody feels for Mara – but she did the right thing,” commented Capt. Mark Phillips. “It was nice to see in this instance somebody doing the right thing for their horse.”
The thing is that we DO have fabulous horse people. Mara is one, the other is Bonnie. Bonnie withdrew because her horse wasn't quite right. She actually has 3 advanced horses and didn't want to risk any one of them so while deserving to wear the team colors, she opted out.
It just seems the greedy few that are in this awful clique seem to get the recognition plus the horseflesh. Ugh!
 
This is what I can't understand, what on earth makes them think we would believe she didn't know that horse went lame when it did?
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