Amy Tyron...????oppinion

just when l thought it was safe to come back......runs off to hide behind a large bush
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I'm not running and hiding.

She is an incredibly cruel and selfish person that killed a horse. Which ever way you look at it she shouldn't be allowed to compete again because

A) she knowingly rode that horse to it's death

or

B) she is such an awful rider that, as she claims, she couldn't feel that the horse was lame.

So she is wrong either thru greed or ignorance - take your pick - but she was very very very wrong

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Agreed 100%, dieseldog. I cannot for the life of me understand why people are afraid to voice their opinions on this matter. Sure, there should be no swearing and abusive language towards AT, but most of us are sensible enough to avoid that anyway, so discussing it further does not seem to be wrong, IMO. She was wrong, as you say, either if she knew the horse was lame or indeed, if she hadnt noticed. And yes, the fact of the matter is that she killed a horse. Dont run and hide, people, be brave enough to give your opinions!

PS. I know that this topic has, in the eyes of some, 'run its course', but I can't see the problem with discussing it. It's no different than someone bringing up the death of Barbaro/George Washington/Best Mate etc again - it happened, why not talk about it?
 
Has anyone got a link to this video? She sounds like a cow undoubtedly (and that's putting a 'nice' spin on it) but it would be easier to form a fair opinion having seen what happened.
 
KVS - She KNEW what happened, she looked down as soon as he started hopping. He broke into a totally disunited canter and tried to brake into trot! People WHERE screaming at her to stop, she chose not to. You see her actually booting the horse back into canter over a 4ft fence and on to finish. She knew exactly what was happening and made an utterly selfish decision. You really need to see the video before understanding.

saskia - I doubt you'll find the video online TBH. It was on You Tube but I believe the broadcasters told You Tube to remove all of them because of copyright issues and then anyone putting the video back on got "spoken to" by You Tube! I tried a google search but found nothing. It'll be around SOMEWHERE but you'd have to dig HARD!
 
Trying not to get involved I will say one thing - I was so shocked I couldn't speak watching that video, and the second time I watched it to analyse it, I cried. It was god damn awful. The horse was on 3legs, breaking into trot. I can't continue in this debate it still makes me SO angry, that woman should never be allowed near a horse again.
 
unless you have watched the video (which I did very early on before the forums went mad), dont judge.....what is said on paper does not add up when you see the video.

She was in the wrong big time, wouldnt let her near my animals.
 
The video isn't availble however it does sound like the written reports of the incident don't show the true picture. They're probably scared of being sued. I'm surprised she didn't get banned if the video clearly shows she reacted to the horse's lameness and rode it on anyway. Still if it is that obvious her reputation and buisness are screwed anyway.
 
omg i have never seen the video before and that nearly made me cry. i dont actually believe it...i have gone from sitting on the fence to thinking how could she do such a horrendous thing...it wasnt as if the horse just told her once...it tried to walk a few times and was hopping lame...i am shocked
 
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Trying not to get involved I will say one thing - I was so shocked I couldn't speak watching that video, and the second time I watched it to analyse it, I cried. It was god damn awful. The horse was on 3legs, breaking into trot. I can't continue in this debate it still makes me SO angry, that woman should never be allowed near a horse again.

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Well like it or not, providing Poggio is sound, shes a pretty dead cert for the Olympics.
 
Thank you. Hmmm... Doesn't leave much room for the benefit of the doubt does it?! I've got a crap computer so my picture is not very clear, but she must have known something had gone wrong, the horse constantly tried to pull up. She travelled a fair distance too considering people tried getting her to stop. I wonder if she just truly under-estimated the problem with the horse or if she was so focused on finishing her senses just weren't listening. Maybe something else - still possible explanations not excuses, and it shouldn't be an acceptable mistake for someone at her level.
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Bless the poor horse for jumping that fence because she told it to.
 
OMG..!! Ive never seen the video before, only read the reports in H&H... How on earth could Amy Tryon off said the horse had locked on to the last fence and it was safer to let him jump it?! When the poor horse was trying to pull itself up b4 the fence!! When you see a horse break down racing - it gets pulled up immediatley- . I used to really admire Amy and Poggio -but I think her punishment is an absolute joke....
 
have just watched video and i stand by my opinion - she IS evil.

i know that lifeslemons feels i am being unfair when i say that but how could you NOT feel that horse was lame????
she kicks on, makes it jump the last, ignores everyone telling her to stop and then after the event and le samurai being pts she tries to justify her actions that day????
 
Statement from Amy Tryon
I would like to express my appreciation to the Tribunal of the Federation Equestre Internationale (FEI) Judicial Committee for its consideration and determination in this matter. I am prepared to accept the Tribunal's decision for the good of the sport. I would also like to thank my husband Greg, the Broussard family, Captain Mark Phillips, Karen O’Connor, and the hundreds of people that have written letters to me over the last two and a half months. Your support has helped to get me through this very difficult time. I also want to reiterate my unequivocal apology to the Tribunal, the FEI, the USEF, the Broussards, and Eventers and horse people everywhere for the mistake I made during the cross country at the Lexington Three-Day Event. I misperceived the situation and acted incorrectly. Had I known that Le Samurai was injured in any way, I would have pulled up immediately. In the sport of Eventing, the welfare of the horse must be paramount at all times. I firmly believe in this principle, and to the extent that my actions on April 28, 2007 appeared inconsistent with it, I again want to express how truly sorry I am. Most importantly, I want to again express my devastation at having lost Sparky as a friend and a partner, and how much I miss him.



errr, how could she NOT feel he was injured????
 
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I'm not running and hiding.

She is an incredibly cruel and selfish person that killed a horse. Which ever way you look at it she shouldn't be allowed to compete again because

A) she knowingly rode that horse to it's death

or

B) she is such an awful rider that, as she claims, she couldn't feel that the horse was lame.

So she is wrong either thru greed or ignorance - take your pick - but she was very very very wrong

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Now, I'm NOT defending her at all, I was as disgusted as most when I first saw the video...However, when I discussed the incident with a leading scientist who specializes in Equine and Human Physiology and Biochemistry, he pointed out that while she did notice the horse had slowed and kicked it on...the chances were high that she hadn't noticed it was lame due to the immense focus required in the sport. His opinion was that she was already locked on to the next fence, assumed he'd stumbled and she needed to drive him to the next fence. Her adrenalin could easily have clouded her judgment, especially toward the end of the course, where she'd be so focused on getting round. He believed that very few riders in that position would have noticed in that situation.

Like I said, this is not my opinion but it is one worth acknowledging.
 
OMG !! not seen the video before what an honest horse to still jump when he was so badly hurt ! but i agree with Judziah about the adrenalin maybe clouding her judgement. i had a horse roll on top of me while out hunting and broke my leg in 2 places as horse was ok i got back on half an hour later when we stopped for food i fainted so adrenalin could have clouded her judgement this doesnt make it right thou ! at the end of the day shes ment to be a pro, if it was a novice rider then maybe but she knew better.
 
Thanks Diesel. OMG, I am speechless for the first time in my life. I cannot put into (printable) words what I am feeling about that b*tch now.
 
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Her adrenalin could easily have clouded her judgment, especially toward the end of the course, where she'd be so focused on getting round. He believed that very few riders in that position would have noticed in that situation.

Like I said, this is not my opinion but it is one worth acknowledging.

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Thing is, to the best of my knowledge, she never ONCE admitted that she had made a terrible mistake and a shocking error of judgement. She tried to justify herself, saying variously that she didn't think he was lame, she didn't think he was THAT lame, that he'd locked on to the fence and it was safer to continue (cough, splutter) that continuing didn't actually make the injury any worse, etc, etc.
We all make mistakes, but the more humble of us admit them and show some sort of remorse. Le Samurai was a wonderfully brave horse, and he at least deserves that much.
 
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