anesthetic allergy....

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simonejp

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hi, just thought i would ask if anyone out there has a dog that is allergic to anesthetic??
we found out in january that our 18 month old springer was allergic to it after he had it to have his anul glands packed with antibiotics, this was the second time he had had it in his life (first time to have dew claws removed) apparently the reactio doesent happen the first time.
now the time has come for him to have another op and the vet is using another option, but have to admit am very scared.. woukd love to hear from you if you have been in the same situation.. thanks..
 
What happened? Did he have a slow recovery?Which form of anaesthetic's have been used to date?
If you look on the invoices you may find some of these: Propofol(Rapinovet), Domitor,Torbugesic.
I'd also ask them if your dog was anaesthetised or sedated for the previous procedures.
 
he would have had a full GA for both of those procedures and pretty much everywhere in the UK uses propofol for anaesthetising cats and dogs nowadays, although there are still other options available. there is also the gaseous anaesthetic agents that they breathe in during the op that could cause an allergy and there are a few of those on the market as well.

what happened to him with the allergy?
 
my own breed ( BSD's) can have significantly bad reactions to GA's - I have a young male here who 'died' after being anaesthetised for an operation and then subsequently went into toxic shock - after 4 months he is stilll very ill .

I have recently had one of my bitches hip scored under sedation as I am so worried about the effects of GA on my breed.

I think the problem is that my breed has a relatively small skeletal structure and a huge coat thus giving the impression that the vets are dealing with a much larger animal and therefore over estimating the amount of anaesthetic needed
 
he went into shock whilst under the anesthetic, luckily the nurse and vet acted quick enough to bring him round by reversing the anesthetic. he is due to have the gas version to put him out this week. it was propofol that was used. he stayed in the vets over night the day it happened as i thought it would be best for him to be monitored (sp) the next day when i picked him up he was back to normal.
just worried for him bless him,
 
Poor you
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I'm not surprised you're worried.
Sounds like he had something like acp/vet for his pre med , propofol to induce anaesthesia and Isoflurane to maintain anaesthesia but I'm certainly no expert. Has he now had pre op bloods?

ETS: You said they reversed the anaesthetic , I wonder if he had Domitor/ Torbigesic with Antisedan to reverse then?

I think Star is the best one for your answers
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Poor you
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I'm not surprised you're worried.
Sounds like he had something like acp/vet for his pre med , propofol to induce anaesthesia and Isoflurane to maintain anaesthesia but I'm certainly no expert. Has he now had pre op bloods?

ETS: You said they reversed the anaesthetic , I wonder if he had Domitor/ Torbigesic with Antisedan to reverse then?


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you cant ascertain what pre-med and gaseous anaesthetic he had from her post - just because acp/vet is the most common pre-med doesn't mean everyone uses it and not everyone use isoflo, although it is the most common.

he also would not have had dom/torb as well as propofol.
 
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I think the problem is that my breed has a relatively small skeletal structure and a huge coat thus giving the impression that the vets are dealing with a much larger animal and therefore over estimating the amount of anaesthetic needed

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we weigh every animal before giving them an anaesthetic and also we give propofol slowly intra-venously to effect, so although we draw up the rough amount in the syringe, we only give what the animal needs to send it slowly off to sleep. fluffy coats have no bearing on anaesthetics. if the breed doesn't do well under GA, then it's a breed metabolism of the drug to blame, rather than anything the vets are doing.
 
Star, Fluffy coats may have no bearing BUT excess weight can . i.e don't anaesthesise FAT !!!

Harvester, please don't think me rude or anything but is your boy overweight at all?
I ask as sometimes O/W dogs can be prone to anal gland problems?
 
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Star, Fluffy coats may have no bearing BUT excess weight can . i.e don't anaesthesise FAT !!!

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er, yes - i think i may have learnt that by now! like i said, we give propofol to effect, no excess is given. i anaesthetise dozens of animals a week, i specialised in anaesthesia in my final year at uni, i hope by now i know how to anaesthetise an animal!
 
Star, I'm glad you know how to anaethesise animals but don't get too complacent
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Harvester, I'm sure , given your boys history, he will receive excellent care. I was taught to question answers and like to pass that on
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Star, I'm glad you know how to anaethesise animals but don't get too complacent
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we're never complacent when it comes to knocking animals out - it's a risky business at the best of times, but we do know what we're doing.
 
I have an Irish Setter who, I wouldn't say was allergic to anaesthetic, but was aways very sensitive to anaesthetic. With pre-meds etc he would have enormous difficulty in breathing. I reminded the vet on the occasions he needed a GA, and accordingly, he was given what was deemed the most suitable drug and closely monitored. He recovered extremely well with no ill effects.
If vets are aware of any potential problems, they will select the most appropriate drug and monitor closely.
Hope all goes well.
 
we also have big red flash screens on our animals records where we record any sensitivities to drugs and so every time we look at an animal's record we are reminded of any problems it has.
 
hi, ... it was never my intention to cause tension in my thread.. just wanted some of your experiences with anesthetic to get a better idea of how common this problem is... the vet has everthing on the system at the vets to say that propofol is not to be used, i trust he is fully prepared for the op tomorrow, but that still wont stop me worrying til he is out.... thanks for your replies everyone... will let you know how we get on...
 
just to let you know that harvey had his op and is now at home recovering, it all went well and luckily didn't have another reaction to the alternative pre-med and gas. thanks again.
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