Angry farmer !!!!

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mandycrosby77

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Thankyou to all the kind people who have advised and supported me on this matter,to all the others you know who you are, what can i say apart from it must be nice to have miles and miles of off road hacking available, but sadly for others who dont we have to stand up for whats right and fair!
I will continue my fight to re claim this as a bridleway and will let you know how i get on.
I would like to say that through out the incident i was polite and never wanted an argument, i was trying to be respectfull to the farmer but sadly he thought diffrently.
 
If you want to avoid arguments why start a whole new post!

I do think that the farmer was wrong to do what he did, but you just need to try and talk. What about walking down there and just asking politely (its a footpath isnt it? so you can do that) even writing a letter would be a start building a good relationship with a farmer is better than any council order
 
At the end of the day you are happy with those posters who have supported your point of view, and unhappy with anybody who has suggested in any way that you might not be entirely in the right.

Nothing new there, it is a free world and we won't all agree...doesn't make us bad people, just different
 
I thankyou for your advice but im afraid this man is not in any way approachable! And just to clear it up i am not looking for arguments just voicing my thoughs, that is what a forum is isnt it?
 
As mentioned in the other thread....there are always two sides to every story....and of course there is also the Law to consider. However you choose to sweeten it up, you did in fact break the Law.

You clearly did not read or understand the points made by "us" farmers in your previous post, and from where I am standing it seems you obviously don't care about anyone but yourself and your own enjoyment...at the expense of someone else.

It's your choice obviously but if this is your attitude and I was the farmer in question, sorry to say, but I wouldn't hesitate to bring charges against you in Civil Court.
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Of course this is only my opinion - purely voicing them.
 
Do you just want everyone to repeat themselves?

Everyone has given their views, inc that you may have cocked up any chance of having it made a bridleway now.

No one was nasty to you or anything, people simply stated their views and how they understood the law.

Why even start a new thread?!

As for you trying to be respectful, riding down someones land when they have said you cant isnt respecful, being respectful is reporting it the right way, which you did, anyway I for one am not wasting my breath repeating things anymore.

And I certainly dont have miles of bridleways, only 3 and all of them involve lots of road work. I would LOVE to have off road riding near me but I would tresspass on someones land when they had told me to stay off.
 
lol , unbelievable , actually the FARMER has been arrested, trespass is a civil matter not police by the way,im not selfish just the only one with ant balls willing to stand up to a bully, a very uneducated one at that !
 
As I said, "Civil Court"
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I know some parts of how the Law works - I used to work for the Police so I am familiar with what goes where.

Interesting that you say the farmer has been arrested, for what?

Wasn't there another farmer arrested some time ago for killing and injuring trespassers ...... Tony Martin wasn't that his name? Didn't he get a pardon?
 
never mind you could always take up a course,seems yo all have lots of time on your hands, unless your off to milk the cows or do some lambing,oh sorry bit early for lambs thats next month!
 
What is your problem, why start a new thread, post sarcy remarks and then basically tell people to get a life and that you are going?

Its people like you who give the human race never mind riders a bad name.
 
what would you do if someone decided to ride across your land? OR maybe the local farmer decides he would like to let his cows onto your land...or someone decides to use your indoor school....?
I canot believe your audacity....
 
May I just point out to you Mandy, that yes I am a farmer's wife and we have 230 acres of land...but I don't have off road hacking here! Dairy farm grazing is prime grass. No farmer wants it trampled down. Cows eat grass = high milk yields. Far more important to any farmer, not just my husband, than me wanting somewhere to ride. Yes I do occasionally ride across stubble, but not very often.

I also get the impression that you have a thing about farmers in general with your "milk some cows" comment. Are all farmers scum of the Earth to you, or just this particular one?

Good luck with your battle to get the permissive bridleway re-opened to the public. I never said that I hope you lose, I just said that you've gone about it the wrong way. I wouldn't have attempted to ride it now that the matter was in the councils hands. Rubbing people's noses in it will always antagonise them against you. I know you feel he's a bully, but right now I suspect he feels the same way about you. Calling the police on him is, to my mind, petty and was done out of spite and an "I'll show him" mentality, not a genuine fear for your safety.

Any sympathy from your previous post could well be lost with the attitude you're displaying in this thread.
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Show some intelligence and realise that Tia has neither cows nor sheep... just as you expected everyone else to be psychic.

I have ridden through farmers fields (with permission) for years, and it is tricky when land changes hands - you ask politely with a knock on the door and a token of your appreciation (did you even try that?) The only time I have failed to get the permission is a) when a farmer was doing building work and didn't want horses in case they hurt themselves on any stray building materials and b) during shooting - which is pretty explanatory. It never fails to amaze me that some people utterly disregard farmers wishes, often ones that affect the safety of horse and rider (e.g. through fields with livestock, uneven/unsafe ground, shooting, toxic chemicals being sprayed, farm machinery etc etc etc)

You should count yourself lucky that the previous farmer allowed you so many years of riding on his land, but that does not mean the new chap has to - and I very much doubt you will ever get his permission how you have acted - you have spoilt it for everyone else (which is ironic as you said that you have other places to ride, but they do not) They may have had the tact and common sense to approcah this properly, in a non confrontational manner, you, however, have wrecked it for them forever by the sounds of it.
 
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what can i say apart from it must be nice to have miles and miles of off road hacking available, but sadly for others who dont we have to stand up for whats right and fair!

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Sorry but this bit got me so very very mad. I am a farmers daughter, and my family works their arses off for those "miles of off road hacking" for the pittance that seems to be coming out of this industry at the moment. If I am not allowed to ride me own damned horses over our fields in this weather- and if fact all year for some of our crops, then why the hell should somebody like you be allowed to come across somebody else's fields? Who do you think you are lady?
 
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Someone with selective hearing and limited understanding.

Rosie, there are a few of us on here who farm, and from what has been said in this and that previous post - it seems that NONE of us who own farms ride across our own fields! We are obviously not "special" enough......
 
Quite frankly, I would be hopping mad if someone was tottling across my land on their horse. You are potentially destroying his crops/grazing land which is this mans livelihood.
 
I just find it so utterly annoying Tia. I mean here we are, making do with muddy bridleways and dim light, and here this idiot is claiming she can and will go where ever she pleases, as you say, we dont get to ride our own land, I cant remember the last time I even dared tiptoe up the headlands of any of our fields, but yet here this joker is, claiming she will fight all the way.
 
Couldn't you just cheerfully
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I just cannot believe the utter contempt displayed tonight. I'm not perfect, I don't have off road riding and infact pay for the privalege (which is how I see it) to go and ride over an ex-dairy famer's land £10 for 8 miles with jumps - I don't even have a manège - but I'd never ride where I've been told I'm not welcome. Permissive rights are easily lost at change of sale etc. It's not nice, but sadly that's life.
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yes! I dont really agree with all these rights of way where farmers are then liable for other people, thankfully we don't have any I know of but I would drive me scatty!
 
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Rosie, there are a few of us on here who farm, and from what has been said in this and that previous post - it seems that NONE of us who own farms ride across our own fields! We are obviously not "special" enough......

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Quite! Well put.

This is what infuriates me so much about this mentality. "It's only fields" is the usual response. Well it's not only fields at all....it's our cows breakfast, dinner and tea and to that end it's mine too! Without good grazng, there is no income to be made.
 
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