Angry farmer !!!!

Lucky you, I never got mine in the cows grazing this winter! LOL

When the two liveries I had went mid summer I found that I had to strip graze more as I had too much grass in my horse paddocks. Still strip grazing now to keep them going over winter so haven't needed to move.

I think I only have about 5 acres though, it's just well managed and I can always pinch some more if need be out of one of the cow's fields.
 
oMG. Why start a whole new thread on this?

In actual fact yes, i know who I am
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one of those who told you you were in the wrong.

Not everyone has off road hacking. If you cannot cope with that why not move yards ?
we have farmers round here who very kindly let us use their land, but if they suddenly said "no more" we would respect that. It is their livlihood, not your right.


with people like you no bloomin wonder it's so hard to get access to off road hacking.
 
Yes they do. We don't have any set aside ourselves but the neighbouring farmer does. I thought we were talking about a track though...not a field?
 
Yes, yes, but rough area of set aside land doesn't have a track marked through it. Not from that description. From yesterday's post I thought we were talking about a clear track through a field....not anywhere on a piece of set aside.
 
Hmm it was a track at some point in the conversation I thought
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. Now it is not a track or field, but a rough area of land....what does that mean?
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Means enough that I probably wouldn't chance my horses legs on it! There is a huge difference between a track and a rough bit of land - you could have all kinds of junk / holes / stones in rough land
 
Yes, we have a rough bit of land and I wouldn't dream of riding on that. Wouldn't even walk my dog on it. It has rubble etc in it. if there was public access to it no doubt there would be other junk in it too. We park old farm junk in it....old harrows, pulper, rotten old muck spreader and there's even an old combine!
 
it is a cart track that runs down the side of a wall, the remainder of the land to the side is a very steep slope covered with bushes and very rough grass land,never grazed by any animals.
 
You seem to be trying to go over old ground, and it makes the forum boring. You made a point, people replied. If it was me I would then draw a line under the whole thing.

From what I can understand you are hacked off because you are unable to ride in a field that is a public footpath and not a bridleway. It doesn't make any difference if you've ridden in it for years unfortunately - IT IS A FOOTPATH!

I do however disagree with what the farmer did when you were riding across his land, however it does depend on whether you have p:ssed him off or not. There is probably a perfectly good reason as to why he has said no. Horses ruin the ground I'm afraid, and coming from a farming background I not only respect that but know that most are nice people and will try to help you out so long as you are sensible and say thank you. From your replies in which you have sniped at other forum members it is quite clear you do not only that you do not understand farming, but that you have no regard for it or the countryside.

Surely rather than being stubborn your best option would have been to nicely ask, even offer to pay him a small sum in lieu of letting him ride on your land, and getting him a tin of sweets at christmas time. As it is, I feel that you have sh:t in your own nest by charging ahead with your 'I have a right to be here because I said so' attitude. A little bit of courtesy is all it takes, and then not only do you improve things for yourself but other riders.

I'd like to sympathise with you, I know how difficult it can be to find quiet safe hacking, however your childish attitude has quashed any pity I may have had for you.
 
I think she has burnt her bridges by having the man charged with assult - don't think a tin of Quality Street will work on that one
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it is a cart track that runs down the side of a wall, the remainder of the land to the side is a very steep slope covered with bushes and very rough grass land,never grazed by any animals.

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Yes - never grazed by the old owner in the past - it's changed hands, he might actually want to use the field he's paid a load of money for.
 
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it is a cart track that runs down the side of a wall, the remainder of the land to the side is a very steep slope covered with bushes and very rough grass land,never grazed by any animals.

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If that's so then I doubt the guy wanted you on there incase you happened to fall down the steep slope and sue the ar$e off him because of it.
 
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I think she has burnt her bridges by having the man charged with assult - don't think a tin of Quality Street will work on that one
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pmsl...imagine!! lol
 
Or the wall may be unsafe, or the wall may be part of his house and he has small children / pets he doesn't want getting hurt, there are tons of reasons - or he could have no reason at all, but may have encountered arrogant prats riding horses before...
 
*chuckles* .....you're on form today Ems
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Mandy has PM'd me to apologize. I think she realises why some of us think the way we think now and hopefully next time she comes on HHO it will be under happier circumstances.

Whether the path should rightfully be a ROW is not at the discretion of anyone other than the local council - I advised that Mandy wait for a judgement on this before going to antagonise the farmer further.

Mandy; the beauty of this forum is that people are truthful and frank, and sometimes this leads to you hearing what you don't want to hear.....but you will know that it is all said in honesty and not just to suck up.

Most folks on here are just regular people and they are VERY forgiving - stick around, you may just surprise yourself and meet some lovely people here.
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its not a field its a very rough area of land set a side!

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For which the farmer gets PAID to have. If he is paid to have it and then an official comes out and there's bloomin hoofprints everywhere he may think the farmer is being paid by horseriders for them to ride on it. That'll look fab won't it??

I strongly suggest that before you carry on with your campaihgn of stupidity that you learn a bit about how land works, and farming for that matter.
Lesson number one...if you don't own it, you ask permission to use it.......


You seem to think you have a god given right to trample wherever you please.

If I was that farmer, no, i wouldnt have dragged you from your horse, I'd have had you prosecuted.
 
I second what Tia said. I've had many fallings out via the forum and I've also gained many new "friends" who's opinions and advice I greatly appreciate and seek.

I also appreciated my pm from you. As I said in my reply to you, farmers land is precious to them, whether you see it as waste land or not. The judgement may be in your favour. Wait and see.

Just for the record though, I'd have made the exact same comments I made in response to your posts had you been an "oldie" member of the forum. Any time walkers, dog walkers, people fishing in private farm ponds and horse riders on private land are mentioned, I always step on my well primed soapbox. I can't help myself.
 
Ok here's the picture. The farmer has been arrested for common assult because of the way he treated you, NOT because you had any right to be on his land.
If the previous land owner gave you permission to cross the land it is classified as a permissive path, NOT a right of way by definition. If you have crossed land that has no legal right of way unhindered for 20 yrs, or can produce evidence that the land has been crossed unhindered for 20yrs, then that is a right of way by definition. If at anytime permission is given then that over-rules any previous history, so if you've ridden a route for 19yrs & during the 20th a landowner pops up & says 'by the way this is my land by you can cross it' then it remains a permissive path. Permission can bbe withdrawn at any time.
This information was given to me this evening by a colleague who works in the footpaths & rights of way dept of out local council.
You shouldn't have been there.
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NB. This is prob full of typo & spelling mistakes, but my lift is waiting as I type!!!
 
So maybe..drop the charges, apologise for being childish and OTT, bring him the tin of sweets and have a nice chat. (Walk to his house) and just be friendly and polite. It could go a long way. But drop the campaign, he is protecting his livlihood and you are protecting yours, that will always clash, but try to TALK your way to a compromise.
 
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