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I am not having a dig, i was just pointing out what the law says.
I don't know why you would want to leave yourself wide open to anyone making any sort of clain against you.

I have no issue with anyone charging for a service. We all have to make a living. i just don't charge for communication becuase that is not what i am there to do.

I just wonder if you have insurance? If you are diagnosing and treating, would your insurance cover you if something went wrong and someone sued you?

Please don't go on the defensive, I am not being critical, i am just curious. Also, what is the loophole in the law?

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loop hole in which law as I mentioned 2. both are easy to find when you look into them. yes I'm insured. Am I covered for what I personally do, yes I am. I don't leave myself wide open to any claims, never have done. if someone wants to sue me they are welcome to, but they;d have to prove fault which is actually impossible. And no, not taken as a dig at all :-) off to bed in a mo. teaching tomorrow and am shattered!
 
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But there not carnivourous, they are simple eating something to fix a deficiency.

No horse has canine teeth, even tushes can not be classes as canine teeth. Horse are herbavoirs, they are prey animals, they are designed to be killed and eaten, not to kill.

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maybe so but that doesn't stop them doing it as someone has since pointed out. (and is I recall rightly also previously)
 
no i would not use one i am not stupid but you did not answer my question, what qualifications do you have or what qualifies you to charge for a service that there is no proof you can provide????
 
Talking of loop holes the prenup doesn't always stand up though now considered legal either. I think it was in 2000 or there abouts it was said to be legal. earlier this year after 5 years of divorce my ex found out it wasn't as water tight as he and his lawyer thought it was after messing me about. A court of law won't be bound by private agreement as many ex husbands won't run the risk of up to 3 years court fees. Just in case anyone has found themselves in/or is in that situation.
 
Yes, I know. I just wanted to make the point that horses will eat meat on occasion and they'll kill it themselves as well
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So the OP's comments were not that far off the mark and to categorize the meat-eating thing as bullsh*t was a bit harsh.
Antifaz will eat anything. I kid you not. Haven't tried him on burgers or steak though
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Don't laugh, Nailed, my friend's pony eats pigeons and hens and he once ate a duck. No word of a lie, he stamps on them and eats them.
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I believe you! But when I first read about carnivorous horses (I know, I know it's the wrong term, but it's easy for me to remember) I was
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no i would not use one i am not stupid but you did not answer my question, what qualifications do you have or what qualifies you to charge for a service that there is no proof you can provide????

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There wasn't a qualification so I wrote on which is acreditted and the course available worldwide with insurance available which is run through colleges. can't recall off the top of my head but it's been acreditted to the eqvilent to an A level or something similar. Would have to go back through my contract to check.

QUOTE: no proof you can provide UNQUOTE how about two thousand animals worth of proof? or is that not enough? how much do you want?

off to bed now :-)
 
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Don't laugh, Nailed, my friend's pony eats pigeons and hens and he once ate a duck. No word of a lie, he stamps on them and eats them.
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I believe you! But when I first read about carnivorous horses (I know, I know it's the wrong term, but it's easy for me to remember) I was
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So a magazine managed to slightly miss explain too.......
 
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no i would not use one i am not stupid but you did not answer my question, what qualifications do you have or what qualifies you to charge for a service that there is no proof you can provide????

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When I checked this earlier this year insurance companies told me there is no UK law for calling yourself an equine behaviourist or any recognised qualification.........but people do it.
 
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I have only one thing to say (for the time being anyway) - kudos to you for having the courage to post here, swth!

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Made of iron, me lol!

I learnt along time ago that people don't always agree but that doesn't remove 'fact' from existance. If someone is able to give me a provable and valid explaination for why it doesn't exist I'll hold my hands up willingly! Live and let live I say. if something makes sense to me fine, but if it doesn't I'll work at it until I've turned over EVERY stone before I KNOW it doesn't. but.....even then I'm still open to the fact I could have missed something and could be wrong!

Sorry for the appauling spelling the old eyes are starting to glaze over a bit!
 
I'm a fence sitter personally
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But when I posted that I have bought an animal communication session on e-Bay, I was told that I'm bonkers at best, and cruel to my animals at worst lol.
 
forogt to add it never stops amazing me how negative and anti some people can be to strangers that try and do the right thing. The one thing I take away with me tonight is not to be at all put off in fact thank you for all the negative posts as it makes me realise how many horses out there need to be heard. It actually shows me how unbothered I am by others, how I can sit and smile at others venom and how unhappy some people must be that they deliberatly go looking for an arguement and I can sit here still smiling. So guessing I must have learnt something along the way :-)
 
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forogt to add it never stops amazing me how negative and anti some people can be to strangers that try and do the right thing. The one thing I take away with me tonight is not to be at all put off in fact thank you for all the negative posts as it makes me realise how many horses out there need to be heard. It actually shows me how unbothered I am by others, how I can sit and smile at others venom and how unhappy some people must be that they deliberatly go looking for an arguement and I can sit here still smiling. So guessing I must have learnt something along the way :-)

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...pretty much sums up the majority of posts on HHO
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Right then I'm exiting the thread now as it's taking up too much time best spent with my horses. But will point out the fact again how when the blood results were posted with regards to the original horse having a virus how the result of it went uncommented on!!!!! so will leave that thought with you as I've got poo picking to do now and a horse to 'chat to' at 10.

If anyone wants to ask me anything personally they can always PM me as it'll come through to my email.

Enjoy your horses :-)
 
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I have only one thing to say (for the time being anyway) - kudos to you for having the courage to post here, swth!

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Made of iron, me lol!

I learnt along time ago that people don't always agree but that doesn't remove 'fact' from existance. If someone is able to give me a provable and valid explaination for why it doesn't exist I'll hold my hands up willingly! Live and let live I say. if something makes sense to me fine, but if it doesn't I'll work at it until I've turned over EVERY stone before I KNOW it doesn't. but.....even then I'm still open to the fact I could have missed something and could be wrong!



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Really? So you will concede that you are wrong and that deer are always herbivores, as are horses and that cats are obligate carnivores and that diet is not the only factor which is used to classify animals into each category then? I believe I have given you more than enough evidence of why this is the case, and I'm afraid another well known well respected publication being wrong as well does not make you any more correct, it just means they have tried to be sensationalist in order to attract attention to their article, and they are also wrong!

Oh, and on the subject of self-medication with herbs - horses will eat toxic quantities of dead ragwort. This is nothing to do with 'self medication', it is to do with the fact that when the plant is growing, it is not terribly palatable (part of the point of being toxic) but when it is dead, the sugars within it start to break down in such a way as to make it highly attractive to horses. Given that I assume your assertation of 'unaltered state' with respect to natural oils/herbs does include ones which are dried and processed for sale, I would be keen to hear an explanation of the research you have done which means you know that nothing you suggest acts in a similar fashion with regards to palatability and toxicity? Or are you simply relying on the horse to 'know' enough not to pick toxic quantities?
 
In the break before doing the nursery run thought I'd pop back on. Soooooo spotted cat you have sensed what a horse has and think dried ragwort tastes nice from a horse perspective? do you really think horses are that thick? (that would explain a lot!)

And still no mention of the blood test from you WHAT A SURPRISE!
 
QUOTEOr are you simply relying on the horse to 'know' enough not to pick toxic quantities?

And what do you define as a toxic quantity? even the medical profession can't answer that one in quanities.
A leaf, two leaves? it is a fact that something is ONLY toxic when the horse doesn't need it.

Anything is toxic if you take more than the body needs or if it is not needed at all.
 
QUOTE A herbivore eats only plants and deers eat a variety of plants (ONLY). So yes, they are herbivores.

Found the above on the net but if they do eat meat which they have been observed doing can they STRICTLY be called herbivores? If I ate meat called I be termed vegetarian? or in fact does it even matter what the 'label' would be as it doesn't change fact!
 
basically its each to there own, some people just dont like the thought of trying something new.

OP has to make a living and if she has helped horses and people doing so good on her. i'm sure tht all responsible horse owners would always get the vet out after an AC had highlighted a point of pain (i kno i would). OP knows she is not a vet but is maybe pointing out something the vet had missed.

she has not tried to persuade anyone to use an AC, she has only been defending herself after seeing the response to a previous thread about the use of an AC.

if u really dont have any interest in the way she works then y bother even replying to the post??
 
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In the break before doing the nursery run thought I'd pop back on. Soooooo spotted cat you have sensed what a horse has and think dried ragwort tastes nice from a horse perspective? do you really think horses are that thick? (that would explain a lot!)

And still no mention of the blood test from you WHAT A SURPRISE!

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What blood test?! I have not been discussing a blood test with you, or been saying I don't believe in animal communication? In fact I have repeatedly said that I have no problem with that at all and am open minded about it.

Yes, horses really are that 'stupid' if you want to classify it in that manner - them 'eating dried ragwort in hay because they can't filter it out' (you used words to that effect) is complete nonsense - my horse is capable of filtering anything he does not like out of his feed, including sugar lumps, and there are certain things he prefers not to eat in his hay, so he leaves just those plants.

As ragwort dries, it loses the bitter taste which puts horses off it when it is living, the sugars also break down in such a way as to make it more palatable. TBH this is very basic horsecare knowledge - I was taught it as a child by the riding school I went to. It is also a commonly reported effect, and is why ragwort should be pulled up in fields even when only one or two plants are present - not because the horse is likely to eat the living plnat, but because if it steps on it the plant will wilt and die and become more palatable. As ragwort is a bioaccumulant, it may be ingested in sub-toxic levels 'safely' but when a critical threshold is reached it will cause serious issues. This is because of the nature of the damage it does to the liver.

Here is just one of many references freely available on the web about how the palatabilty of ragwort increases when it is dried:
http://www.bhs.org.uk/_Attachments/Resources/1089_S4.pdf
 
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basically its each to there own, some people just dont like the thought of trying something new.

if u really dont have any interest in the way she works then y bother even replying to the post??

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I don't think that is fair. I personally think that it is a load of b*****ks, but I have nothing against anyone who wants to try it. I also am not adverse to trying something new and it certainly doesn't mean that I am not interested in the work that she does.

The whole point of this forum is to put individual opinions across and everyone is entitled to post.

PS - I have a biology degree and I have to agree with spotted cat about what OP is saying about herbivore/carnivore. It really isn't something you can debate!
 
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PS - I have a biology degree and I have to agree with spotted cat about what OP is saying about herbivore/carnivore. It really isn't something you can debate!

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Gosh, two people with degrees in the subject think you can't debate carnivore/herbivore and that there is no grey area between the two because it is more than a matter of diet....who'd have thought it. Of course we must be wrong because everyone else knows it is simply a matter of what you eat and all the other components which go into how you classify something is just scientists being picky
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i simply fail to understand how you think that:
A) self medicating an animal or person poisonous plant material is acceptable when you have had no medical training.
B) that a deer is a carnivore. That is just hysterical!
C) that because a cat eats grass that it is a herbivore. They do it to make themselves vomit.

Every creature on this earth has been designed with a specific purpose in mind. Deer hunting and eating flesh is not one of them.

Would also like to point out, in regards to the bullshit comment you made, you are right, i am surrounded by it all day. But i guess that is what happens when you have a proper job.
 
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Gosh, two people with degrees in the subject think you can't debate carnivore/herbivore and that there is no grey area between the two because it is more than a matter of diet....

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make that three
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3 people actually, I have an Hons degree in Conservation Biology and Ecology. Luckily after 3 years i also know the difference between herbivores/ominvores and carnivores. Maybe you have to study for years to know the difference so maybe the op should do a degree then he/she would also know the difference.
 
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