Animal Communicator Reading Back - What A Load Of Hogwash!

Honey08 said:
If you get enjoyment from it, then good for you though. At the end of the day it does no harm.
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I agree....to a point. However, like any unproven alternative therapy, it does not replace treatment from a qualified vet.

In cases where people are trying to get to the root of a behavioural problem, I would take the reading with a pinch of salt and always make sure you doubly check everything physical, even if the horse tells the communicator it is not in pain.
 
I agree that a communicator should not be used as a replacement for good management or veterinary care. It should be seen as something 'extra' to give ideas, but at the end of the day a sensitive horseman should understand what a horse is feeling. I would always check that any reading contains evidence that is pertinent to the horse in question, generalities do nobody any favours. Sadly there are nutters and fraudulent communicators that do give the genuine ones a bad reputation.

As for the horses being able to speak language and use terminology that humans do, then understanding how the process works can help, the reader is given the information in 'pictures' or feelings rather than a direct 'talking'. I am assuming that anyway as I worked as a spiritual medium doing church services and charity functions - not for payment personally; and I would imagine that it is a similar process. I have also communicated with foreigners in 'English'. Why would it not be possible for a horse to feel abandoned or alienated?

I also wonder if the reader is sometimes linking the owner rather than the horse in some cases.
 
a horse that has metal set issues does not need a Physio so that would be a waste off money. This horse went from yard to yard and no breaking yard could do anything with him. I find it gives a good insite into their issues and def worked on him. It's not instead off vet care or anything else it's just a different insite into things. I thought it was total **** but tried it as a last resort as this horse was going to go for meat. I was going to send him as yes he was dangerous and the communacation saved him. I had pointers off what would work for him and he's now enjoying a hacking life instead off the bullet
 
I'm really disappointed in my readings as well. I got two, one for my newly loaned horse, who's background I know quite a lot about from the owner. There were a few comments that were fairly accurate, in a general way that could be cleaned from the photo. The other reading was a non-horsey one, and one that I had a secret wish would really be accurate (the horse one was for fun).

A bit of entertainment, something I was excited and looking forward to, so for that it's probably worth the £15 each. But in all, it did not give me any useful insight whatsoever. :(

And I approached this as neither skeptic (well, maybe a little) nor believer (but hoped to be). Open minded and now....more skeptical than before.
 
OK, so here's a test for the next communicator. Let's pick a horse from the Lost/Stolen list and ask the communicator to get in touch and get the horse to read the nearest place signpost/street name. I am happy to pay for this reading, let me know who you think is the best communicator around.
 
Booboos said:
OK, so here's a test for the next communicator. Let's pick a horse from the Lost/Stolen list and ask the communicator to get in touch and get the horse to read the nearest place signpost/street name. I am happy to pay for this reading, let me know who you think is the best communicator around.
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I often think about testing them using Monty and Zoom.........Monty is dead and Zoom has one eye - two defining features that I would be suprised they didn't 'tell' the reader!
 
Charlatans the lot of them.
Never heard/read such tripe in all my 50yrs as a horseytype!
Its money for old rope,convince people you can 'read' from a photo(get real) then throw in the 'Emporer's new clothes'syndrome..'if you don't see then you don't have your horse/pony's welfare at heart/don't understand and are not in 'touch' with your horse/pony.
Sit back and wait for the pennies to roll in,cut and paste same old drivel but change name for relevant nag and bingo...lucrative little earner with minimum outlay.
And available on E-bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What of the day one of these so called 'Communicators' gives some 'advice' that gets someone badly injured/killed?..bet you would'nt see their well covered arse for dust then..
 
EquestrianType said:
Charlatans the lot of them.
Never heard/read such tripe in all my 50yrs as a horseytype!
Its money for old rope,convince people you can 'read' from a photo(get real) then throw in the 'Emporer's new clothes'syndrome..'if you don't see then you don't have your horse/pony's welfare at heart/don't understand and are not in 'touch' with your horse/pony.
Sit back and wait for the pennies to roll in,cut and paste same old drivel but change name for relevant nag and bingo...lucrative little earner with minimum outlay.
And available on E-bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What of the day one of these so called 'Communicators' gives some 'advice' that gets someone badly injured/killed?..bet you would'nt see their well covered arse for dust then..
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I agree 100% with this. These are cold readings using classic Barnum statememts For those of you that still think that this is for real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVxRE8uM-A At about 2 mins Derren describes Barnum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect

Derren Brown showed this wonderfully in one of his programmes (he talks about it on the youtube vid) he did sent a personal reading to each of 4 students that he had never met all in different countries. They all claimed the readings to be over 90% accurate for them.
It was only afterwards that it was revealed that the same reading had been sent to each person they were just gleaning the information they wanted from it.
 
SirenaXVI said:
I must admit she was spot on with Sirena, even to the point of saying she caprioles for fun! I am waiting on another reading coming back for one of my other horses.
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But did she say 'caprioles for fun' in the reading. I remember reading your reading and she said something like 'she does a jump in the air and kicks out her hindlegs '
Most horses do a variation of high school bucking for fun. I think you have just taken her words and made them into what Sirena does.
 
EquestrianType said:
What of the day one of these so called 'Communicators' gives some 'advice' that gets someone badly injured/killed?..bet you would'nt see their well covered arse for dust then..
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Like any good equine practitioner in any field, the reputable ones hold insurance, and advise people very carefully based on what they are qualified to advise.

Most people go to ACs on personal recommendations. if someone were giving out generic info (as this ebay person may be) they would soon be found out (as might be the case here).

Many won't charge if the owner in question doesn't think the information is specific to their horse.

Chiropractors, osteopaths, physiotherapists and energy therapists all need to get vet's permission to treat, and if they belong to a reputable group will not treat if it is obvious the horse needs to be attended by a vet. I don't think having an animal communicator try to communicate with a horse comes under the heading of treating them, but as I say, the reputable ones will be making it clear that what they perceive is only perception, is not an exact science and can only be used to help guide the owner and the relevant qualified person (vet, saddler, dentist...) to the problem.

As a general comment, I know some people are cynical and say that non-specifics are just proof that its all nonsense. I won't convince the die-hard sceptics and thats fine. But I will agree that we find evidence which suits our preconceptions, and that works fo the cynics too. A vague or innacurate communication will be "undeniable proof" to a cynic, but they may happily ignore the spookily accurate results that others have achieved.

Sometimes something hits you full on in the face that can't be explained as generic or a lucky guess.
 
glamourpuss said:
But did she say 'caprioles for fun' in the reading. I remember reading your reading and she said something like 'she does a jump in the air and kicks out her hindlegs '
Most horses do a variation of high school bucking for fun. I think you have just taken her words and made them into what Sirena does.
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No what she said was:


There is a Spanish Riding school move where a horse flies up into the air and kicks out backwards, sorry can’t remember the name, it is usually stallions that do it there, but I can see that she will do it in play! She is amazingly aware of her own body, and really a once in a lifetime horse for you.


This movement is capriole and the fact of the matter is that this is exactly what Sirena does, it is not bucking, it is in fact proper capriole, many horses buck, not that many capriole, and there is no 'get off me' involved, she does it purely for fun. This was only one of many things that she said that were true, including the fact that I keep changing my mind about putting her in foal. All in all she had a 99% hit rate, I was really not expecting it to be so accurate but had figured it was only £15 so I would give it a go.
 
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