Annual (or not) vaccinations for adult dog?

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So, following on from a previous thread where another poster was surprised doggie was being vaccinated annually I did look into what he's had...

Apparently Eurican DHPPi and also Eurican L in two sets a few weeks apart as an adult who had not previously been vaccinated - last year.

This year he had the DHPPi again and I'm not sure about the L. The other vets I'm registered with (one is closer but more expensive/inclined to invasive treatments, so I have a good balance between the two practices I think!) would be happy to only use the L every three years. (ETA: I think it was that way around - could have been the reverse, not feeling too well and head muddled!)

What do people recommend these days in general - I'm somewhat out of date on all this.

Doggie is a healthy adult and family pet so keen to keep him that way. But don't want to be over-vaccinating for no particular reason as obviously there is always a small risk associated with that too.

He had no ill effects from the vaccines that I could identify first times around (although was very new and so unsettled for lots of reasons) and a dodgy tummy for a while this year - although that could have been coincidental.
 
Hopefully our HHO vets will comment on this. My vets offer DHPPi every 3 years and leptospirosis annually. A lot of people are wary of lepto as there have been cases of severe reaction , particularly to lepto 4 it would seem. I do still have mine done annually for lepto, though will be stopping with my oldest bitch now and giving thought to whether I have the younger one done next time.
 
Ah yes, that was the way around MM, thank you! Vet who did the jabs does all annually I think, other one will do combined every 3 yrs/L annually.
 
Hector is off to the vets on the 28th, he was a stray we took in 3 years ago, and had new vaccinations/worming Xmas 2014. He had full re-do in 2015.

Last year we did the vaccinations, but had him worm counted like I do for the horses instead of wormed. He had poo samples (3 days mixed) and a blood test for lungworm I think it was, because they cannot count for that.

All his worm counts came back as 0, so no worming.

This year we are having another worm count, but this time also Titre testing to see if he actually needs vaccinations. If his protection is low then he will be re-done.

I am worried that Heck has the same amount of vaccine as my huuuuuge shepherds had, it does not seem right. He is also a weak dog, came to us half starved, had pancreatitis, and I would rather he not be wormed/vaccinated unless he actually needs it.

Interestingly my vets said they did not do testing, until I said I would go elsewhere. Than suddenly they did. From a friend who tests, she gets vaccination records filled in by the vets to say the dog is covered. Heck does not go to kennels to a vaccination record is not important, as long as we keep him as safe as possible.
 
Tawny will not have any more, after the lepto made her ill last year, she is 4 this year. The pup will have at least her booster this year (whatever vet recommends, ours do not do annually), and then I will see. Old lab (10) does not have them, and hasn't for about 3 years now.
 
DHP at sub 10 weeks, once over 10 weeks, 1 year old then 3 yearly or titre test 3 yearly. Lepto yearly regardless. KC if at risk or going into kennels (+/- Pi).
 
I used to be a bit blase about vaccinations until I moved to a more populous area with a lot of dog walking routes nearby (and a river). He picked up a few bugs since we first moved.
Most kennels also won't accept unvaccinated dogs and again, because he travels, needs a rabies shot.
Not ideal but they're the rules.
 
Mine get puppy jabs and thats it. No lepto or KC ever. The oldest is 7 this year and I will probably titre test him to check. The youngest is just over a year old and I'll titre test him at 7 as well. Mine wont ever go to kennels so thats not an issue. Having had the oldest have an horrific reaction to a booster he didnt need I did some research and this seems to be the best way to ensure coverage without over vaccinating.
 
Right, mine will almost certain never go to kennels as there are family he can stay with and, for the same reason, doesn't have a passport so, that at least is not an issue.

It does sound as though I could cut out the annual combined and replace with either a 3yr combined or 3 yr test from now on. Will have a proper read of the link above (which looks awesome - thank you!) when head has cleared up.

A human acquaintance died of wiles a few years back so I know it is neither pleasant nor are we in a safe area - although doggie doesn't swim in our waterways (too big/too many boats and has anyway shown zero interest) which probably helps a bit.

Thanks all - I love how this place is such a mine of (more up to date than I am) information.
 
Mine had puppy jabs then 1st year boosters then nothing more. Big dog used to get annual boosters until I did some research. I understand that there are hundreds of varieties of kc, so it seems completely pointless to get it, unless your kennel of choice requires it (surely they know it’s pointless?)

My kennels doesn’t require vaccs certificates and they don’t mix with the other dogs there.
 
Id go parvo distemper adeno(dhppi) every 3 years.
Kc annually(for kennels and doggu daycare etc)
Lepto annually ideally in spring or summer,its not the most effective vaccination in the world as its combatong a bacteria not a virus similarily to the kc but if you have a swimmer/ratter/dog who likes to drink from puddles..id try and get them covered.I alwasy found my dogs more into water etc during the warmer months.
Where I live now doesn't have lepto endemically like the uk and ireland thankfully...and its nice to not have to worry about it. Nasty disease lepto.
 
I'm not totally au fait with the KC vaccine but just a point of interest just because there are a lot of varieties of something does not mean that there is no cross protection from a vaccine of a alternative variety, it depends on the diversity- but you can have lots of varieties with only small changes that don't make much difference.
 
Mine always have annual jabs and KC, they need to be able to go to kennels and day care which require annual boosters :( Given the amount of dogs they come into contact with at flyball etc. I’d be wary of not giving them KC if I’m honest but I’d happily titre test if I could.
 
Snuffles said:
Don't the insurance companies insist on up to date vacs if you make a claim ?
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It wouldn't surprise me and certainly (and perhaps wisely), boarding kennels do. There's no effective vaccine against Kennel Cough, so my vet advises me, so one would expect the disease to go through all boarding kennels in a flash — except that it doesn't seem to.

I'll admit to being completely in the dark over vaccines but I firmly believe that there's a degree of -'Products being sold without there being a need'- attached to the marketing. We're assured that with the various killer diseases constantly mutating, so there's a need for annual boosters except that those who don't bother seem to either live charmed lives, or their refusal to make the annual and costly trip to the Vet's is justified.

As a young man, in the 1960s an elderly Vet, a family friend, explained that the vaccines available at the time provided protection until the pup was 12 months old — by which time it had built up its own immunity. That's what he said, so with our progress in research I wonder how our current vaccines have regressed in their efficacy —— assuming that they have, that is!

Alec.
 
Snuffles said:
Don't the insurance companies insist on up to date vacs if you make a claim ?
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I expect they do! Just as they do for horses, regardless of what the animal is actually sufferening from/died of.

That is another reason why we don't insure.

Our pups have the 1st course of vaccs (2 x 2 weeks apart or whatever it is) and then their first booster. Then we don't vaccinate any further. We have never had a dog have a serious illness which could have been avoided by being vaccinated. We did once have an adopted adult dog who picked up Parvo virus, although he had been vaccinated by the previous owners (Cert seen), we barrier nursed him and it wasn't passed onto any of our others.

Current dogs are walked on lead only, as we live in sheep country, so we are fully aware of any sniffing etc.
 
Alec Swan said:
How would being anywhere near sheep influence a dog's health? I'm genuinely interested.

Alec.
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Well should they get in amongst the sheep, it could seriously damage their health, if the farmer decides on a permanent solution. We have sheep and I have had to tell more than one dog-walker that we would be within our rights to shoot their blasted loose animal that they allow to hop over our walls, despite the fact that we have no footpaths across our land.
I was not suggesting that they could pick a disease up from sheep but explaining why they are never off their leads, off our property.
2 large Rottweilers are rather memorable, should any sheep in the vicinity be worried by any unidentified dog, I can imagine that if ours were seen running loose, someone would blame them. As it is that can't happen.
 
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Alec Swan said:
How would being anywhere near sheep influence a dog's health? I'm genuinely interested.

Alec.
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Sheep can be full of ticks. Ticks carry Lyme disease. I admit I know almost nothing about which ticks carry it. I recall Brig being covered in the horrible blasted things when we went to the Lake District one year. We did an epic walk up waterfalls which ‘weren’t there last week’ according to my cousin who’s a ranger there. :rolleyes3:
 
cinnamontoast said:
Sheep can be full of ticks. Ticks carry Lyme disease. I admit I know almost nothing about which ticks carry it. I recall Brig being covered in the horrible blasted things when we went to the Lake District one year. We did an epic walk up waterfalls which ‘weren’t there last week’ according to my cousin who’s a ranger there. :rolleyes3:
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As do the deer which we have in abundance, too!
 
cinnamontoast said:
Sheep can be full of ticks. Ticks carry Lyme disease. I admit I know almost nothing about which ticks carry it. I recall Brig being covered in the horrible blasted things when we went to the Lake District one year. We did an epic walk up waterfalls which ‘weren’t there last week’ according to my cousin who’s a ranger there. :rolleyes3:
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Having kept a sheep or two over the years, trust me now and whilst ticks on sheep happen of course, to suggest that they're 'full' of them would raise an eyebrow. Deer also carry the odd tick or two. Infestation levels would lead to anaemia and death and it would be most unusual for any parasite to kill its host.

If your dog was 'covered' in ticks, I'd suggest that he may have some form of 'welcome' which may be worthy of veterinary investigation, as it would be extremely rare for more than the odd-tick-or-two to attach themselves. The truth is that ticks, mostly, trouble humans far more than their dogs! :)

Alec.
 
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