Clodagh
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My vets say this is coming available. Has anyone heard of this? I won’t be taking it up as my annual or biannual bravecto seems to work well enough but I assume it’s a brand new thing?
Annual tick and flea jab
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MidChristmasCrisis
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Yep my vet said it’s available at approx £100 …I’m gonna have our boy done.
Moobli
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I haven’t heard of this so off to google, although I don’t currently treat mine for fleas or ticks, just remove ticks if they get any, and haven’t seen fleas on any of mine in over 20 years.
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Clodagh
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I imagine you are in a ticky area like I am? I admit I don’t get many on most but Scout is just a magnet for them. I think it’s his very short coat and nosey nose.
Mine never have fleas either.
Clodagh
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Thank you. It sounds pretty amazing but I suspect will be overchemicalisation in my case.
druid
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It's the same ingredient as Bravecto just in injectable form. Been released here already and all my own dogs have been treated and 3 of the large shooting estates that are my clients have done their full working teams. It works out less than 4 Bravecto tabs a year. We are in a high lyme area
Clodagh
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Is he prone to parasites? I think people that have cats find fleas on their dogs?
ArklePig
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I got lazy about tick treatment and then she caught a heap of them at my parents house so I may look into it for Fodhla.
Clodagh
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How do you find out if you are in a high Lyme area?
druid
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We had a tick survey done in ireland for last several years on ticks removed from culled deer and badgers which showed the distribution. I've also had 2 clients contract lyme (the owners!!) and 1 dog (he was not covered for ticks and disgnosis took a long time as his symptoms were vague and inital tests were negative)
Jenko109
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I have not seen fleas on my dogs for about 9 years. I dont use flea prevention.
Ticks are few and far between thankfully.
I'm not sure how I feel about an injectable option. I guess time will tell.
Ticks are few and far between thankfully.
I'm not sure how I feel about an injectable option. I guess time will tell.
druid
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Out of interest why would you feel differently about it being administered subcutaneously by injection vs ingesting it or a spot on?
Clodagh
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I know lots of people get Lymes on the moors. Tawny was tested for it when she had the twitchy thing. I do use tick prevention but only reapply it when I find a live tick.
And you weren’t asking me but the annual dose subcutaneously would worry me v oral as I use about half the recommended annual dose.
planete
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I use Seresto collars because they could be easily removed if the dog did have an adverse reaction, an option not available with other means of control. (Sorry, I know you were not asking me).
druid
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That is a pro for the collars, I agree.
twiggy2
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I qish there was a product just for tick, qe are in a high 4isk lyme area but havent seen fleas on any of the dogs since i had a cat over 20 yrs ago and then it was only once.
Even here i dont treat the house dog with anything and the working collies only get treated twice a year with bravecto so not aure i qould go for the inj just yet.
Even here i dont treat the house dog with anything and the working collies only get treated twice a year with bravecto so not aure i qould go for the inj just yet.
Jenko109
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TBH, I err on the side of caution with flea treatment in general and anything remotely new leaves me suspicious. Cover for a whole year seems a long time.
I guess it could be favourable for the environment as I read about concerns with the water being polluted from spot ons.
I have luckily not had to use such products in many years now.
druid
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It has been in use in Australia for a while now, it was released there first due to their paralysis ticks being so darn dangerous.
Boulty
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I am indeed lazy enough to consider using this as we do have plenty of deer, sheep & long grass locally and I have pulled several off the cat (got bored of this so he now has Credelio as he reacts to most spot ins). I am also very bad at remembering to actually flea, tick & worm them both (they both eat dead stuff on a semi basis)
I think it would be an excellent option for people who can’t tablet or do spot ons for whatever reason especially those who are elderly or suffer from dementia or similar conditions. Would also be a good option where there’s an active flea infestation I’d think as no possibility of gaps in treatment.
Not suggesting it’s the ideal option for every person & every animal as it’s not but some people really struggle with getting products into or onto their animals or just with being organised enough to remember
Would I’d imagine be popular with veterinary staff as well as if a good uptake it would reduce their dispensing workload & would also fit in really nicely with the way legislation around flea & worming products is now being enforced & the need for a vet visit for every product or dose change. Depending on how it’s excreted I guess it may reduce contamination of water courses / the environment on general with anti parasite products?
I think it would be an excellent option for people who can’t tablet or do spot ons for whatever reason especially those who are elderly or suffer from dementia or similar conditions. Would also be a good option where there’s an active flea infestation I’d think as no possibility of gaps in treatment.
Not suggesting it’s the ideal option for every person & every animal as it’s not but some people really struggle with getting products into or onto their animals or just with being organised enough to remember
Would I’d imagine be popular with veterinary staff as well as if a good uptake it would reduce their dispensing workload & would also fit in really nicely with the way legislation around flea & worming products is now being enforced & the need for a vet visit for every product or dose change. Depending on how it’s excreted I guess it may reduce contamination of water courses / the environment on general with anti parasite products?
pistolpete
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Really not sure I’d want my dog injected with something that stays toxic for a year! I’ll keep pulling ticks off and haphazardly treating for fleas if I see them I think.
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
I've had Hector for 10 years and never seen a tick or flea. I had him worm tested a number of times and that has also always been zero. Until this year, when I started to holiday, and he has been off to a kennel/house he was therefore never treated for anything.
I would hesitate to use an injection with him. He has pancreatitis on occasion and is very old.
I would hesitate to use an injection with him. He has pancreatitis on occasion and is very old.
skinnydipper
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"Interactions
Fluralaner is highly bound to plasma proteins and might compete with other highly bound active substances such as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)"
Fluralaner is highly bound to plasma proteins and might compete with other highly bound active substances such as non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)"
druid
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The kind of pets I'm using it for are dogs working or hiking in high tick risk areas and those atopic dermatitis dogs who also have flea allergies/hypersensitivity where one flea bite can set them back weeks or months in comfort and welfare.
Also dogs who regularly travel abroad with their owners to areas with high risk tick borne diseases
There's no reports for Aus in terms of NSAID doses needing to be altered
Also dogs who regularly travel abroad with their owners to areas with high risk tick borne diseases
There's no reports for Aus in terms of NSAID doses needing to be altered
teacups
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Sounds as though it will be a very useful addition to the arsenal. No risk of dog throwing up afterwards and wondering whether an expensive tablet has just been wasted, for example.
We used to use Nexgard Spectra tablets, but kept finding ticks happily attached and getting fat (lots of ticks in our area).
Now using Bravecto which works well.
We used to use Nexgard Spectra tablets, but kept finding ticks happily attached and getting fat (lots of ticks in our area).
Now using Bravecto which works well.
Moobli
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No surprisingly, even though we have plenty of sheep/deer/wildlife, the moorland here is relatively tick free. If I go to the woods or beach off the hills I have to check them for ticks and when we go to the highlands I spray them as it’s very ticky up there.
Moobli
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Thanks. So injectable Bravecto rather than a tablet.
splashgirl45
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I like the idea of an injection once a year especially for my terriers who won’t eat the tablet so I have to shove it down their throats which is not easy. In comparison to using the tablet 4 times a year it would help me , also you can never be sure if they are going to be sick somewhere and get rid of the tablet
Moobli
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I worry about the longer lasting treatments in case the dog were to have a bad reaction then it’s already in the system. One of our working beardie border collies had an extreme reaction after we’d used a spot on treatment on all the dogs. I can’t say with 100% certainty it was the spot on treatment because of course the vets thought it unlikely but despite various tests they couldn’t diagnose what was wrong with her. She kept collapsing, lost weight at an incredible rate and was very lethargic. Thankfully she pulled through but it’s made me very wary about treatments for her in the future.
druid
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If the dog has previously had oral bravecto there is little risk of it having a reaction to injectable form