(Another!) balancer question!

Chappie

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Hope you don't mind another query about balancers... I have no one to ask in real life so turning to the forum!

The two horses I look after as part of an (unusual!) part loan agreement are on a diet of mostly hay or sometimes haylage given to them by the livery yard. I'm wondering if they could lack vital nutrients with the hay diet?

They are on restricted turnout due to the yard circumstances, but both are good doers so could not be just put onto grass either. The field they do get in has a lot of clover. Livery choice here is literally very few and far between. (Believe me, if I could get them more suitable turnout I would).

They get forage morning and midday from the yard and in the evenings I give them a 4kg net of my own hay supply and a handful of grass chaff as the cob gets Protexin and a joint supplement, they also get a few slices fruit and veg with that.

Other things they get are Baileys fibre nuggets, Halleys fibre blocks and swedes, and they always have access to salt licks.

They look fine weight-wise, I am not overly concerned for this time of year, they aren't over-rugged and riding-wise I am not particularly concerned, cob very backwards and small horse very forwards, they have always been like this.

The cob has a long term gut problem which annoyingly the vets apparently gave up on before I was involved with the horses. However the Thunderbrooks chaff and Protexin I get for him seem to have helped.

Maybe I just need a good vitamin and mineral powder to add to their chaff? Rather than a pelleted balancer? Last thing I want is them to put on unnecessary weight. Do you recommend giving some of the feed companies a call? Maybe somebody like Pure Feeds? I got some recent equestrian magazines as there was a lot of info about feeding but I'm still working my way through them for info.
 

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Are you responsible for deciding what they are fed? (I’m just asking as wasn’t sure as you said it’s a part loan agreement)
What you could do us take a sample of the hay (if that is predominately what they are eating) and get it analysed for vitamins / minerals. You can then tailor any supplements to that. However you are probably just as well going to the forage plus website and using one of their balances. Having tried every vit/min supplement under the sun I think they are about the best. They are good for providing advice too.
https://forageplus.co.uk/
I know you said they have salt licks but I would add a tablespoon of salt to their feed (depending on their size - it’s about 50g per day for 500kg horse - 2 heaped tablespoons)
 

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Hi, thanks for your reply. The owners of the two horses are a family who bought them for their children when they were younger, but they gave up by the time they were mid teens, and the parents didn't want to sell them. They are not knowledgeable in any way about horses and are happy for me to do the daily care. They only pass by the yard about once a month, they don't live nearby. (It's a bit unusual but mostly works out.) I always run anything by the yard owner before I make any changes, but I don't make many changes, and certainly not without considerable research.

I will check out the Forage Plus site, thank you for that. I do add salt but more like a teaspoon, as the feeds are only literally a handful of grass chaff, they are approx 14.2hh and 14.3hh.
 

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It’s nice that the horses haven’t been sold on and you are looking after them for the parents.

Forage plus also provide advice if you contact them.

I did grass analyses and have typical uk mineral profile and have my ridden horse on FP.

I have my older retired horse on Equimins Advance Complete
https://gsequestrian.co.uk/products...i4ynFn9l4bMTALS3TxA6G56Ct_FA4qhsaAkkFEALw_wcB

which is another popular and pretty well regarded brand recommended a lot on HHO - it cones both as powder and pellets (though when I finish current tub I’m moving both horses onto FP).

Good luck!
 
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Thanks I really appreciate the advice:) I've read about Equimins on the forum so will have a look at their website too.
 

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I use equimins after seeing it on here and its the most economical way to make sure they are getting what they need. They do pelleted and powder so you can pick what works best for you.
 
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