Another epic fail from the RSPCA, thank god for the BHS

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Ok so can't say too much at this stage, for fear of getting in the way of any kind of proceedings but.......

Young colt, not even a year old yet, in field with 2 others. Field mates are fine to the naked eye.
Colt foal was reported to be down in the field today and not able to get up. Finally was got to his feet but was very wobbly.

Bath in field for water, completely empty, no grass and no hay!!!!!!!

Colt has a rain sheet on and through this rug you can see his hip bones, on removal of rug, his spine is seriously protruding, hip bones standing out prominently and underneath thick winter coat all ribs can be felt easily. On top of this is a case of rain scald and lice infestation
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Little baby is very weak and totally depressed, and being ragged around by stronger companions.

These animals are known to the WHW
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So this afternoon a call to the RSPCA was made, all details given. They could not give a time or even date when the foal would be looked at
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they would have to give the case to an officer and he would priorise it and come when he could
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But you have done the best you can for him by ringing us!!!!!! WTF no not correct....... the best thing for him would be feed, water, wormingand warmth for starters.

Tried again 2 hours later, still no joy
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Quick call to the BHS local rep, on the instruction of a certain some one heavily involved in the Carrot and Spud rescue.......
WOW, within the hour there was someone checking this darling little man
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so thank god for the BHS and long may they continue to support these poor animals suffering all around us, with no thanks to the RSPCA who sadly believe if it still able to stand it is ok
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Fingers crossed for this dear little pony, who is the sweetest natured little babay, with so much to give, but getting nothing back
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will keep you updated, and hope this little guy gets the life he deserves before he suffers any more
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The BHS Welfare reps deserve a medal - unlike the RSPCA they are not paid for the work they do, yet they can be there immediately?????

Good old RSPCA, letting the side down again where animal welfare is concerned!!!! lets hope something is done soon for the poor little man....
 
i dont bother with them any more, they're useless half the time! good job there is people like you around also that take the time to call these people and do not take the dont get involved aproach!
 
Similar to the stamford case then!!

No doubt shall take the credit somehow for this also.

Poor boy, you should get a medal too for getting it noticed!
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Let's hope this little man gets the help he deserves......I feel strongly that the RSPCA need disbanding - they are a purely political organisation that does nothing for animal welfare.
 
So sad, just sitting here worrying about him.
BHS officer reckons he is probably riddled with red worm and that is why he is so weak as he will be aneamic (sp).

He has problably never been wormed, and will have no immune sytem. we know that the little mite was taken from his mum at 5 months old and thrown in the field to fend for himself. Don't think he has ever had a feed
 
You have done all you can for now, and I know it will play on your mind all night, but try and gather some rest from the fact that the best ones are now involved and will get something done......
 
Well done for taking steps to sort the situation - I hope he gets the love and care he deserves.

As for the RSPCA...well... my mum called them the other day about rehoming a cat on their website. The woman from the RSPCA said "no, you can't have it, it says 'knackered' on the side of its cage"!!!!
 
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As for the RSPCA...well... my mum called them the other day about rehoming a cat on their website. The woman from the RSPCA said "no, you can't have it, it says 'knackered' on the side of its cage"!!!!

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Well does that not say it all
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I have been off work for a little while and have been watching Animal 24/7 and the so called good work that RSPCA do...... kiss my arse from now on, itv it is and Jeremy Kyle all the way. At least the animals on there are given a fair trial
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you should ve told them there would be TV cameras there im sure rspca would ve turned up in no time.

i reported a case to them they asked me to keep an eye on it !!!!!
 
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I have been off work for a little while and have been watching Animal 24/7 and the so called good work that RSPCA do...... kiss my arse from now on, itv it is and Jeremy Kyle all the way. At least the animals on there are given a fair trial
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LMAO!!!

OP: fingers crossed something is done. I recall speaking to the vet the night of 'that' case, who was very 'oh! the RSPCA know... I was the one who saw them, they're fine, aones a bit old, but fine!'
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I changed my ponies vet at that point (was with THAT vet) and would urge anyone else to do the same if they found out similar about their vet. It's not JUST the RSPCA's call, they can be there within hours, but if the vet says it's fine then they can do nothing. I rather suspect, sometimes, it's more money for the vet if they keep getting called out rather than deciding the RSPCA can take it there and then. When it comes to vets making bad judgements in these cases people should vote with their feet and wallets.... it;'s the only way they'll learn.
 
Well done for getting the poor animals sorted.

We gave up giving to the RSPCA years ago.

Getting horsey people to stick together over an issue and vote with their wallets and feet, mmmmmm, pissing in the wind springs to mind.
 
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It's not JUST the RSPCA's call, they can be there within hours, but if the vet says it's fine then they can do nothing.

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Unfortunately this is true. They can't get an immediate second opinion because if it gets to the point where the owner won't hand the animals over voluntarily, the only way the charity can make sure the animals stay safe is to prosecute, and if they get a second opinion straight away the case is hugely weakened. This matters because if the prosecution is not successful the animals have to go back to the abusive owner.

Unfortunately the law does not allow any charity to wander in and take away animals just because they fancy it, whatever people may think. They need the support of a vet to do this. It is more difficult in the case of horses because there are fewer equine vets than small animal vets. It's relatively simple to find a small animal vet who doesn't know the animal or the owner, but this can be very hard in the case of horses.
 
A bit off topic, but I once had the weirest conversation with an RSPCA vet at headquarters. He was questioning whether horses should be ridden "in an outline" or just allowed to go along "naturally."

Even western horses are collected! We ride horses in an outline to develop the muscles to enable them to carry the riders more easily and comfortably and to prolong their working lives. I didn't actually say that to the person I was talking too, I was so stunned that the supposed expert in the whole country could have those opinions.
 
All very interesting.......

Pony was not taken from the field, he is still as far as i know waiting for a visit form them that can't be arsed!! BHS rep left a card on the gate and is going back today and will ring me tonight.

So still he stands with no water or anything, poor little mite.
I will go down in a bit and check he is still standing and give him big cuddles, which he laps up, little darling.

Thanks for all the comments, and let's hope we get a nice result for the poor boy
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All very interesting.......

Pony was not taken from the field, he is still as far as i know waiting for a visit form them that can't be arsed!! BHS rep left a card on the gate and is going back today and will ring me tonight.

So still he stands with no water or anything, poor little mite.
I will go down in a bit and check he is still standing and give him big cuddles, which he laps up, little darling.

Thanks for all the comments, and let's hope we get a nice result for the poor boy
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So BHS have done no more than the RSPCA......

Now I'm not a huge supporter of the RSPCA - but this post is, I think, unfair. A BHS welfare officer can often get out sooner than the RSPCA because No. 1 fewer people contact them, No. 2 they work a lot in their own time, and No. 3 often don't have a list as long as your arm of cases to look at in one day. For every call that is made to the RSPCA, many more are behind - and they have to prioritise. RSPCA officers aren't as abundant as we would think - and so it can be difficult to get someone there immediately.

The situation sounds desparate - and if the chap is as bad as you say will most likely not make it to the weekend. However, to villify the RSPCA in this thread is, I think, very unfair.

The BHS welfare person can also summon a vet to assess the animal - did they do that do you know?

Have you taken it any hay or water by the way??
 
No, DON'T take it hay and water as this will stop any welfare organisation from acting under the law!
 
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No, DON'T take it hay and water as this will stop any welfare organisation from acting under the law!

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No, it will not.
 
Are you sure? It is my understanding that under the law it does not matter who is taking the animals food and water, as long as someone is doing it.
 
In the case of a Wefare issue with any equine I would strongly recomend that you contact either WHW or the BHS as both of these charities specialise in horses.
 
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Whats cuddles gonna do give him some hay and water!!!!!

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There you go there is always one!!!!!!!!!

I am not stupid
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, i gave the 3 of them 3 buckets of water that they drank in seconds, hid the bucket again as if the welfares see anyone looking after them in anyway they cannot do anything to help. Someone else went this morning and they necked 4 more buckets.

I wanted nothing more than to fill them with hay and give the baby a feed, i even considered walking down at midnight last night. But that could have done more harm than good on two counts.......
firstly the welfare issue and secondly his poor body would probably have colicked from the shock of it. No use putting hay in the field as he wouldnt be allowed a sniff of it due to the bullies
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And sorry but if you feel like [****] and no one can do anything, surely a cuddle is better than nothing, and makes you feel safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks to every one else for your support, and i will up date later, as things did happen today, but just felt i needed to comment on someone telling me the very obvious but very wrong advice
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I am sure that under the latest welfare act, someone else giving hay and water doesn't affect whether the charity can step in or not, on the basis that the horse's basic needs are not being met by the owner, although I agree its a tricky area.

But even if I am wrong, I would still take water as there will be no colt to worry about soon and keeping him alive is more important right now - I was told they can only live 3 days without water (on average) whereas they can live around 21 days with water but no food.

So keep taking water with you and maybe some feed like soaked beet to get some fibre in there.

I went through this at New Year so know how you are feeling. x
 
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