Another idiot.

Horserider, if you think we should all try and 'save' all horses from PTS then it seems to me you're part of the problem culture that's seen us with far more horses in the UK than can be cared for. Maybe you shouldn't be in this hobby! Never mind the realistic people that would rather a horse have a certain and safe ending than go to a home that can't afford him! (That's how most welfare cases start.)
 
Of course we can't save every horse, and neither do I agree with the animal hoarders who live on planet Cuckoo Land.

However, there is a middle ground, where, people can put themselves out and with the support of friends, give a horse a chance.
I can think of quite a few horses that have gone on to have caring new homes after someone took a chance.

But, you hypercritics, just stand with your arms folded and do nothing.
 
Given that its spring and its a fat (and I mean that in a derogatory sense) hairy cob, why is she begging for saddles and rugs for it - hardly essentials, are they? I don't really care if someone wants to take on more horses at the expense of their kids (heck so many parents fail to put their kids needs anywhere near the top of their priorities) and if it gets that bad I guess it's a job for SS. But manipulating people for goods is unethical and wrong. I can't believe so many people are donating unquestioningly.
 
And now, reading further, I see there's no point as one would be banned!

I have nothing against "rescuing" ponies, I have one here whose next stop was the meat man, I have two more who were due to be pts but have come right - one completely, the other better than field sound,but I actually pay for mine out of my own money and have never asked for donations to support them.
 
jemima*askin said:
I have nothing against "rescuing" ponies, I have one here whose next stop was the meat man, I have two more who were due to be pts but have come right - one completely, the other better than field sound,but I actually pay for mine out of my own money and have never asked for donations to support them.
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Exactly this. I'm not in a position to "rescue" but that's why I contribute to charities. In the past, I have had friends take on rescues, who I have helped out with kit / time / work etc (they haven't asked - I offered as I knew the situation). It's not exactly fair to dismiss all saying the situation is a bit suspect as the sort of people who won't do anything to help.

All the charity in the world won't do any good if it's directed at people who are out to deceive and take what they can get.
 
In an ideal world, we could save every unwanted Horse. Afterall we are all Horse lovers and we do not WANT Healthy Horses PTS. However with the current climate like it is, it is what NEEDS to be done. It's not nice, of course it isn't. But until people stop breeding for the sake for it and only breed from the best of the best, this will continue. The charties are full to the brim and are advising PTS. I would love to take on a rescue, but it means my Horse would have to go without as I couldn't afford the 2.
 
Sometimes I wish that we could eat horsemeat over here. Would stop a lot of horses (and by the sounds of it children!) suffering by ''well meaning'' owners.

But I don't like the way this is done - no wonder the horsey world is so bitchy. Perhaps a word over PM on facebook or talking to the lady over the phone? To me this is edging towards cyber bullying...sorry!
 
It might be perfectly well meaning, it might be perfectly 'generous'. But what it isn't is practical in any way, shape or form.

Frankly, if anyone takes on a horse for any reason when they can't properly afford to feed their own children then yes, that is completely warped and leaves a seriously bad taste in the mouth. If that were the actual situation then I should sincerely hope SS were aware of the family.

We all love horses (I should hope, or none of us would be on HHO in the first place). But anyone who believes that we are not careering rapidly, irreversibly and necessarily towards a cull in the UK needs to wake up. The situation is not sustainable. Sad, but end of, and it's been our own sorry doing. There are ideals, and then there are necessities.

'Rescue' has become a very distorted word. There are many lessons that need to be learned by a lot of people if this situation can and will ever be sorted out.
 
JFTD i confess to being surprised at the rug request given that it obviously had plenty of fat stores, to put it politely lol! But the saddle offering is very odd, though its quite tight knit and lots of people are friends in rl on there :-)
 
I can remember when we were looking for a new one, we went to a rescue rehoming place locally to us.
we were quite shocked when we went there, she had over 40 horses there, and not one suitable to rehome, They were all on the older side, which I didnt have too much of a problem with, but they all had issues. One was about 28, blind, so never, ever came out of its stable. Just stood at the back. Others were absolutely leathal as you walked past, she actually warned us not to get too close, as the majority of them would bite. She had turnout, but it was ALL mud, there were 2 schools there, so that was the basic turnout, for 40 ish horses.
I cant see the point in this. What is the point in keeping a horse at the age of 28, and blind, which had absolutely no quality of life. She was asking for money, rugs, feed, as she couldnt afford to keep going. But if people actually done the right thing, and the kindest thing to alot of these horses, there wouldnt be the problem in over crowding in the rescue centres.
Sorry, probably went off in a bit of a tangent there!!
 
The statement about barely being able to feed her kids is what worries me!

That said, I wish her and the horse the best of luck!
 
Perhaps when this mare throws some 'quality' foals this person will be able to feed their children on the proceeds...and so it continues:rolleyes:

Wish people would stop using the word 'rescue'

After reading this I would like someone to donate a bucket for my own personal use.
 
MissChaos said:
It might be perfectly well meaning, it might be perfectly 'generous'. But what it isn't is practical in any way, shape or form.

Frankly, if anyone takes on a horse for any reason when they can't properly afford to feed their own children then yes, that is completely warped and leaves a seriously bad taste in the mouth. If that were the actual situation then I should sincerely hope SS were aware of the family.

We all love horses (I should hope, or none of us would be on HHO in the first place). But anyone who believes that we are not careering rapidly, irreversibly and necessarily towards a cull in the UK needs to wake up. The situation is not sustainable. Sad, but end of, and it's been our own sorry doing. There are ideals, and then there are necessities.

'Rescue' has become a very distorted word. There are many lessons that need to be learned by a lot of people if this situation can and will ever be sorted out.
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This is an excellent post, it is something I often think, but then I put my head into the sand and hope it goes away again
 
benson21 said:
I can remember when we were looking for a new one, we went to a rescue rehoming place locally to us.
we were quite shocked when we went there, she had over 40 horses there, and not one suitable to rehome, They were all on the older side, which I didnt have too much of a problem with, but they all had issues. One was about 28, blind, so never, ever came out of its stable. Just stood at the back. Others were absolutely leathal as you walked past, she actually warned us not to get too close, as the majority of them would bite. She had turnout, but it was ALL mud, there were 2 schools there, so that was the basic turnout, for 40 ish horses.
I cant see the point in this. What is the point in keeping a horse at the age of 28, and blind, which had absolutely no quality of life. She was asking for money, rugs, feed, as she couldnt afford to keep going. But if people actually done the right thing, and the kindest thing to alot of these horses, there wouldnt be the problem in over crowding in the rescue centres.
Sorry, probably went off in a bit of a tangent there!!
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This has made me quite sad, they could have had healthy Horses that needed rescueing instead. When will people learn there are worse fates for a Horse then death :(
 
SaffronWelshCob said:
JFTD i confess to being surprised at the rug request given that it obviously had plenty of fat stores, to put it politely lol! But the saddle offering is very odd, though its quite tight knit and lots of people are friends in rl on there :-)
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Having just looked back, to be fair, she didn't actually ask for a saddle - the offer is a bit odd though. I just can't see why she's asking for rugs when it's hairy and could stand to lose some fat - and it is March and very mild. It's hardly an essential really.

If I said he was a rescue, do you think people would give me matchy matchy and bling for Fergles? :D
 
I think with the world of the Internet full of freebe hunters its not surprising people won't 'donate' or help anymore. I have some exotics (snakes and lizards) and that hobby seems to attract the same 'type' of people, both luxury animals I suppose. Typically the freebe hunter that will 'rescue' any unwanted animals for free (including free set up and free everything else 'donations to the poor rescued reptiles please')
There was a long post on a well known rep forum (their version of here I suppose!) about using baby bearded dragons as feeders, they are overbred and usually neglected and nicknamed 'the staffies of the reptile world'
I think back yard breeders of any species have a lot to answer for. But I also think in my opinion there is a big different between 'rescued' and 'unwanted' some animals sadly don't stand a chance from birth.
 
It seems someone has spoken up on the post. It has ended how I knew it would, she has been jumped on and will most likely be banned. She has some very good and valid points, yet they will not listen to her (I have gotten into some very heated debates on there and now have decided not to waste my breath) For those who cannot see

why rescue a horse if you cannot afford to keep it???

Excuse me! Its not a case of not being able to afford to keep it, it is adding the extra bit of luxury the pony deserves. I think you owe ... an apology.....at least is trying to help!

why? she is asking for saddles/rugs when the horse is clearly overweight so begs the question why it needs rugging and a saddle is hardly an essential piece of equipment for a resuce horse?? She admits to barely being able to feed her children but takes on an animal?

And who are you to tell someone they shouldn't have a horse! IMO if the horse is looked after what's the problem?!

your opinion - keep them to yourself - we don't want to read your petty minded issues - or actually could it be jealously!

the bitchy horse world rears its ugly head yet again leave the poor girl alone theres nothing wrong with asking for help if ur not willing to help past the post no need to hav a go at the poor woman !!!!!!!!
 
Like poor Bella the Staffie, still in pain, still no treatment, another animal passed on by a rescue charity to someone who can't afford to do the right thing by it and is begging for money for the vet treatment.
 
JFTD said:
I know, I went and looked at the rest of them. Properly bloody dim the lot of them.
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Do you remember the tethering debate on there? I got told I shouldn't own my Horse as I clearly don't like Horses. Just because I dissagreed and wouldn't sign a petition to ban tethering!:rolleyes:
 
must've missed that one. I tend to ignore most of the petitions that go round on there as they're predominantly ill thought through :cool: It does worry me that the level of intelligence and education of the population is so low...
 
What is it with this new trend for begging on local FB groups - I can't believe the amount of posts on the ones in my area that say "must be cheap as chips or free" in their 'wanted' ads. :confused:
 
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